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Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#1 » by MasterRyu » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:40 pm

Shannon Brown is getting all the love, but where is Morrison? I haven't seen much of him in the regular season, let alone the playoffs. Doesn't he have a decent long range shot? Why not try him out for a few minutes a game. He can't be any worse than The Machine and Farmar right now.

Yah, I understand the prospect of him playing was slim to begin with, but who knows, he might be another decent floor spreader.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#2 » by lakersfanatic » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:42 pm

True, he should have been given at least more chance to play but that's probably over now that we're in the post season. With these close games and us letting them come back... it'll be even harder for him to get any minutes.

I'm pretty sure Phil let farmer and sasha play more because of their experience with the team, triangle, and defense(exclude farmar in this one hehe). Ammo isn't that great in D and his shot hasn't been doing well as of late solely due to his confidence level. Even during the trade he didn't show that enthuiasm he had during his college years...

who knows.. if we're finally blowing out a team... maybe we'll see him play in scrap minutes...
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#3 » by Gus McCrae » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:11 pm

I feel bad for the kid, maybe we should at least put him in street clothes and say he was injured in practice to save the embarrassment.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#4 » by Kilroy » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:36 pm

If he had shown he could contribute in practice, he would have played... Like Shannon did...

The thing is, our bench is letting teams back in the game now... The momentum is completely changing. So it's hard to let everybody get some burn...
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#5 » by Dr Aki » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:42 pm

there was a sense of urgency from shannon brown, simply because hes playing for a new contract

whereby ammo AND farmar have at least another year to prove themselves. they dont impress or show improvement during pre-season camp or throughout early next season, theyre going to get shopped.

and there wont be a shortage of teams looking for 2010 contracts, so kupchak can pick and choose what deal suits them best
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#6 » by Dexmor » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:44 pm

Morrison is gonna be playing in china next year. Smush is better.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#7 » by Dr Aki » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:46 pm

Dexmor wrote:Morrison is gonna be playing in china next year. Smush is better.


let the lakers decide that, not you

just look at your shannon brown predictions, too crappy to be a good PG, too short to be a SG

but somehow, perfect for the triangle

but keep bagging out morrison, maybe he'll turn into a knock-down shooter as well
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#8 » by TylersLakers » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:10 pm

We're already loaded at SF as it is. He'll get minutes next year. I actually think he could start next year if they want to put Trevor Ariza back on the bench.

But he could definitely take Luke's minutes once he gets a full training camp under his belt. We just don't need him right now and it's too much of a possible risk.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#9 » by Cracked Fingers » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:18 pm

LA will give him the summer league to impress.

Truth is Shannon is lucky that Farmar has started sucking so bad. That opened the door for him. The same cannot be said about our 3 spot.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#10 » by boshjonesford » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:06 pm

SoCAL24 wrote:I feel bad for the kid, maybe we should at least put him in street clothes and say he was injured in practice to save the embarrassment.



i know i feel bad for him to, the poor guy is getting paid 4.5 mil a year to sit in the bench, hope things get better for him
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#11 » by Danny Darko » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:57 pm

I believe there are two issues here:

1- He specifically said his leg is jacked up and hasn't recovered from surgery yet.
2- His injury stunted his learning process and he's still basically a rookie.

He clearly has D issues, as well. But he hasn't had one of those offseasons where he puts together his shot the way he should have. He can shoot, we know that, but he hasn't gone and made himself a shooter. And he's not playing real games, so he's not picking up the triangle very fast.

I'm not ready to discard him.. don't think we could if we wanted to, but I'd give him this offseason to start proving who he is or isn't. Him finally getting pissed about the slander on his game is a decent start.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#12 » by Plastered » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:02 pm

Danny Darko wrote:
He clearly has D issues, as well.


i think issues is an understatement, he tore his mcl guarding luke....
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#13 » by TonyMontana » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:16 pm

Dont feel bad for him guys......... Well I dont mean it that way, but he is getting paid millions to sit on a bench representing a team with history and legacy meanwhile resting his injured knee with the hopes of getting a championship ring under his belt by doing absolutely nothing but showing up to practice and cheering his teammates on.

Now how many of us wish we had the same opportunity. Plus there is nothing he can contribute to this team that other healthier players cant. He's just fine right where he's at to me.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#14 » by slifersd » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:29 pm

I think we should know by now that Phil simply does not like use guys that hasn't been around since forever. I assume Brown has been playing pretty well in practice for a while now and yet we only put him on the court because Farmar sucked for like 2 months in a roll. Phil is afraid of changes and he is going to stick with the same old guys no matter how bad they suck.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#15 » by Gus McCrae » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:07 pm

TonyMontana wrote:Dont feel bad for him guys......... Well I dont mean it that way, but he is getting paid millions to sit on a bench representing a team with history and legacy meanwhile resting his injured knee with the hopes of getting a championship ring under his belt by doing absolutely nothing but showing up to practice and cheering his teammates on.

Now how many of us wish we had the same opportunity. Plus there is nothing he can contribute to this team that other healthier players cant. He's just fine right where he's at to me.


I guess I don't feel bad for him, of course he's got money, cars and girls, plays for the Lakers, lives in LA, he's living the life. I feel bad because it's not like he magically appeared in the NBA. He's probably spent his whole life building towards being an NBA player and was such a stud in college, he's probably just really bummed that he sucks in the NBA. Kind of like Reddick. When I look at Morrison on the bench, he looks sad. And the only guy I see him talk to is Pau. But yeah, screw him, I work in a cubicle.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#16 » by fareweatherfan » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:10 pm

I think at this point its premature to over-analyze his situation.

Its simple: its a situational thing. Shannon is playing b/c we need him. Sure he's stepped up big-time and is playing GREAT, but he was only given the opportunity b/c Jordan SUCKS. As for AMMO, we simply don't need him right now. Luke/Trevor and occassionally Kobe are playing very well at the 3.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#17 » by lakersfanatic » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:33 pm

i dont know... either the media is not showing us how enthuiastic he is or he just plain not doesn't have it in him...
But the guy got the golden ticket and made it into the NBA and now the golden lakers, the hollywood team, the team that'll get you the money eh hem like turiaf hehe. But he's doesn't appear to be too happy about it.. Ionoz.. i know im not seeing it and most of us here are not seeing it in him.

May if he gets more minutes.. we can see that spark.. but under Phil i doubt it. You gotta earn it, and i think shannon really did thru practice and especially during the end of the season and now the post season.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#18 » by dockingsched » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:48 pm

adam morrison is what vlad would be without a jumpshot.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#19 » by Erik Eleven » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:29 pm

He's coming back from a season long injury. In my opinion, nothing he does or does not do right now should be used as a measure stick for anything. I'll be ready to write him off after our next training camp and pre-season, assuming that he hasn't improved at all.

Before you write him off, look up his college highlights reels. This guy is a true scorer, a possible offensive star — given that he can translate his talent to the NBA level, of course.

My point is that we can't know for sure yet that he won't be a very potent NBA scorer off the bench next season. We might actually sit on a gem in Morrison. The triangle is a perfect fit for someone with limited athleticism, yet with a solid specific skill-set and a high hoops IQ. See Luke. Coming off the bench, AM could possibly score in bunches playing off the ball, once he learns the triangle. He's no dummy, and I think he might surprise a lot of people next season.

One can speculate that his lack of athleticism might ruin his chances altogether on this level, but I would like to see that with my own eyes before he's traded. The NBA hasn't seen what he can do yet. That can only be judged when he's healthy, not now, and not in his rookie season. As a scorer in college, he was up there with the best in the country. He was an insane scorer, and it was more of a willpower, refuse-to-lose type of thing than anything else. Experts compared his scoring ability to Larry Bird's (in college). Even if that was all hype, it's still worth taking in consideration.

I think it would be a big mistake to write him off too soon. What if he does realize his scorer's potential on the NBA level? Look up some highlight reels on youtube before you write him off. And yeah, I know very well that there is a big difference between college and NBA, but I'll withhold judgment until I've seen him play within this system at full health.
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Re: Is Morrison that Bad? 

Post#20 » by doozyj » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:44 pm

Who really knows, he hasn't had any playing time and I don't think he will see anymore with the Lakers organization.

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