What's up with all the hate on Stephon Marbury

[Kefa461]

At one point in the game he passed up an open shot of about 12 feet to make a pass to Powe under the basket who had a layup...Powe missed it and Doug (I can't coach a lick) Collins gets on his ass about bad ball playing because he makes the extra pass. Last year Collins attacked every shot Sam took, the shot was never a good one in his eyes. Now Marbury can do no right when he passes.
It's the story line the networks want that the C's have no bench. Still singing the Posey/PJ Brown song.

That might have been the play where Powe hurt himself too trying to catch a bad pass.

Seriously though Marbury doesn't know the game of basketball well enough to contribute. He doesn't know when to pass and when to shoot. It was a different team once he arrived. Surprised the Celtics won as many games as did since he arrived. The Celtics won very few easy games (no blowouts far as I know) since then and relied mostly on key late game heroic's from PP and RA with key contributions from everyone but him and Micky Moore.

Starbury just might light em up tomorrow night.....just to shut folks up.

[Starbury4lyf]

Seriously though Marbury doesn't know the game of basketball well enough to contribute. He doesn't know when to pass and when to shoot. It was a different team once he arrived. Surprised the Celtics won as many games as did since he arrived. The Celtics won very few easy games (no blowouts far as I know) since then and relied mostly on key late game heroic's from PP and RA with key contributions from everyone but him and Micky Moore.

Marbury doesnt know the game of basketball well enough? He's played for 5 different teams and hes put up career averages of nearly 20 and 8.. He just needs to be given the green light and MORE minutes..when he has a breakout game (which he is very well capable of doing) then your attitudes will change.

[LenBiasBaller]

wow you guys are blind. Try reading a box score. How many minutes has he played these past two games? What do you expect? It is much better that he defers to passing than shooting IMO. Think about it, he comes to the world champions and he is supposed to come in and just start lighting it up? How would that be perceived by his teamates? He is trying his best to fit in while not having played in over a year for a new team with a new style.

I think the problem lies more with Doc not having more trust in his bench guys. He's had a history of playing the guys that have been around the longest and not giving young guys the minutes they should be getting.

At the end of the day Marbury is the least of our problems. How many times does he dish the ball to Perk 8 feet from the basket wide open, only to have Perk stop, look around, wait for his defender to cover him, and then make a move. Give me a break i'm sick of all the hate. If the guy was chucking it up we would want him out of Boston.

Marbury will be fine and the more time that goes and minutes he gets the better off he will be. He is just feeling his way through everything. Bucktooth Pruitt and grandpa Cassell...give me a break.

[LenBiasBaller]

And another thing. our bench is like a revolving door since Marbury got here. How are you supposed to get comfortable with a team when your players going down left and right? I just don't get it. I think Marbury still has a ton to offer. Maybe i'm wrong but I still think he is a starting caliber player in this league.

[GreenDreamer]

The fact of the matter is that Marbury has never been, at any point of his career, as good as Rondo is right now. NEVER. He had the ball a ton. Took a lot of shots. Looked for assists instead of running his offense correctly. Didn't play defense and didn't rebound. He was obessessed with himself and suffered, IMO, from some sort of mental disorder which is probably being treated now.

Talent isn't performance. Making great individual PLAYS isn't the same as playing a great GAME. Rondo is the kind of guy who can take over a game on both ends of the floor. Marbury didn't seem to know that basketball is a two way sport. Intelligence. Toughness. Leadership. Hard work. Guts. Those count for A LOT in the game. Rondo has that in spades. Marbury, for all of his talents, did not.... and it isn't like Rondo is playing with a deficiency of talent either.

So Stephon comes here, in the twilight of his career, and people want him to be the "Starbury of old". Damn it, I'm extremely HAPPY that he is not. His shot needs to come around, but apart from that he is actually trying to play basketball, not that garbage that he used to do. You aren't going to see Rondo come out of games and see this team get better. Why? Well, Rondo is awesome, and Marbury is not. He is trying hard, though, and can really help us.

Personally, I think that he has been helping Rondo out by giving him advice on certain aspects of the game, too. It isn't as if Steph doesn't have anything to offer Rajon, and I have noticed that Rondo is asserting himself more willingly on the offensive end, and is using some of Marbury's tricks to get shots off and create passing angles. That is a positive influence. Good job by the veteran.

In defense of Stephon, the guy is coming off the bench now (which is a big adjustment), and is having to get used to taking 3 to 5 shots, instead of as many as he wants to. In days gone by, he could have off shooting nights, and still be given the green light. On a team like this, you only assert yourself when you have it going. If you don't, then you go to someone else. Hell, Rondo averaged under 10 shots a game this season. He has taken 39 over the first two games. Do you think that he is doing that if he's shooting bricks? You have to pick your spots on the Celts. I'm sure that Stephon will see his shot start to go down again, but I certainly don't want him "taking over games" if that means watching him just gun all night. He must play efficiently and within the team concept. He is playing as well as he can defensively, which is all that I ask from him. He isn't Rondo, and I don't expect him to be.

The best thing with regards to Steph is to be REALISTIC. He's older, fairly rusty, and was never as good as the guy he is backing up anyways. He is trying to do the right thing, though, and can really help us. My overall outlook with regards to him is positive. At least we have a competent backup for Rondo, which is more than we had a few months ago. Anything more that Steph can bring to us is a bonus.