Boredom will be our biggest enemy

dingclancy · Post #1 » by **dingclancy** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:08 am

Hiya all,

Not too sound cocky or anything but I think this Lakers team is suffering from short attention span. Everytime they blow teams out they let them back in and they know that even the Jazz play they never felt threatened.

I think that will burn us in the end. We did not take a punch in the jaw last year until the finals. I want to see a WC team get a punch in and see how these Lakers respond to say that we are really ready for the Finals.

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Dr Aki · Post #2 » by **Dr Aki** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:19 am

sometimes we're just disinterested and are just waiting for teams to just bend over

hermes · Post #3 » by **hermes** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:10 pm

but everytime the jazz got close (like 9 points) the lakers would respond, the announcers brought it up, the jazz would go on a mini-run but the lakers would cut it short

can't play at full intensity all the time, and the team seems to be able turn it on and off

but our way of stopping a run is by ramping up the scoring, as opposed to the defense, which works against the jazz because (especially yesterday) they were not hitting much of their shots

Joe Kleazy · Post #4 » by **Joe Kleazy** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:25 pm

I'm sure Phil has that copy of the azz whippin we took from boston on speed dial if needed.

tayzer · Post #5 » by **tayzer** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:04 pm

I think the triangle requires a lot of effort, and when the Laks are up they try to go for the quick kill without executing, and teams catch up. Then they start to run the offense again to win. Laks always looking for the short cut.

lakersfanatic · Post #6 » by **lakersfanatic** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:51 pm

It's the coaching staff.. everytime we're up big, they swap out the guys and when they're doing bad.. they just keep them there.. hoping "they'll play it out and get out of their slump."

Time and time again.. like for instance Shannon before or Trevor. When they're doing great, they take them out.

And if the starters are doing bad... take them out as well.. Maybe they need some mental resting hehe. But so far so good. Yesterdays' game was awesome. i saw contributions from everyone especially trevor and shannon.

Free Rider · Post #7 » by **Free Rider** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:12 pm

This is what scares me the most about the Lakers. The inability to step on opponent's throat when they're down and beaten. Far too many times they're just willing to coast on a lead and hope they can win on a minimum level of effort. It's like they just stop caring and refuse to expend whatever additional energy is necessary to rip out a team's heart. They're not motivated unless the game gets close and then all the sudden they decide it's worth their time to actually try. All of which may be ok against teams like Utah, Denver, or Dallas but if we see Cleveland in the Finals I pray that this team develops their killer instict to put them away. Cleveland doesn't have this problem, they typically hold on to their huge leads. There's no reason why we can't do they same.

Erik Eleven · Post #8 » by **Erik Eleven** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:46 pm

I guess I was wrong on thinking this would be addressed as soon as the elimination games started. Are they really monitoring their own games like this on purpose? I'm used to it by now, but I still don't like it. I want them to win by 30 or 40, and not let teams back within 10.

Post #9 » by **crazyeights** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:19 pm

A Kobe Bryant led team will never blowout teams consistently. That's been his MO all throughout his career, even as far back as high school. He keeps games close so he can use the dagger.

That's just KB24. He has a flair for the dramatic. It's what makes him perfect as a Laker.

TonyMontana · Post #10 » by **TonyMontana** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:56 pm

Hey guys we won for crying out loud.

Dr Aki · Post #11 » by **Dr Aki** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:41 am

maybe the crowd starts chanting "we want lebron" soon

Asianiac_24 · Post #12 » by **Asianiac_24** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:58 am

Akiho wrote:maybe the crowd starts chanting "we want lebron" soon

yea maybe..when Kobe and Gasol leaves that is

Dr Aki · Post #13 » by **Dr Aki** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:33 am

Asianiac_24 wrote:
Akiho wrote:maybe the crowd starts chanting "we want lebron" soon

yea maybe..when Kobe and Gasol leaves that is

i meant it more along the lines of "we want the cavs"

not for lebron to come play for the lakers

magic1fan · Post #14 » by **magic1fan** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:02 am

i spoke on this in another thread. i think that is our biggest problem right now. i mean when the jazz were up 4-0,we went on a 30-15 run to close the quarter... i hope they stay tuned in,but i don't see us completely changing anytime soon...

kevin_405 · Post #15 » by **kevin_405** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:28 am

agree totally.. i hate our substitution patterns..

Coaching staff sucks.. i cant believe Phil won 9 rings with this approach..

Maybe in the past he got away because Shaq and MJ rarely had off games.
Kobe is human and so is the rest of the team.. and this team has a pack mentality .. i.e. one does well all do well , one does bad all take a dump..

Some thing has to change in our substitution pattern atleast on the road where games will be closer..

lakersfanatic wrote:It's the coaching staff.. everytime we're up big, they swap out the guys and when they're doing bad.. they just keep them there.. hoping "they'll play it out and get out of their slump."

Time and time again.. like for instance Shannon before or Trevor. When they're doing great, they take them out.

And if the starters are doing bad... take them out as well.. Maybe they need some mental resting hehe. But so far so good. Yesterdays' game was awesome. i saw contributions from everyone especially trevor and shannon.

supaflash · Post #16 » by **supaflash** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:43 am

Its the NBA, its the playoffs, even the 8 seed is an extremely talented team. Everyone makes runs. Sometimes the shots never fall and you win by 20, sometimes the bench continues the heat or the starters stay in and its 20 or 30. Sometimes a really well coached team that doesn't quit like the Jazz make little runs. Especially when you aren't an uber elite defensive team. We're pretty good defensively, but we're not that good to always blow teams away by 20. 10 point wins are still great wins in the playoffs. Utah >>> Detroit. The ONLY thing of concern in that game was rebounding and I'm not even so sure that problem was as bad as it seemed. The bigs were in foul trouble and it was a rough game with a lot of Utah bricks. It was just one of those games where the ball was bouncing a little wierd and our guys just couldn't battle they way they wanted to. Props to Utah for getting under our skin a little but what it comes down to is:

The game was never in doubt and it wasn't as close as the final score.

nuff said.

Dexmor · Post #17 » by **Dexmor** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:49 pm

They do let teams hang around to much. The Rockets are going to give them all they can handle. Unfortunatley you will get your wish.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #18 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:41 pm

Jazz fan here...I think some of you have the same problem as your team does. Yes you guys had stretches where you were dominating us but the Jazz had stretches where we were just as dominating. Thinking the game was never in doubt is a scary thought for a championship team who let an 8th seeded team get within 3 with three minutes to go in the game. The Lakers didn't put the Jazz away last night, the Jazz did it for them. If the Jazz manage to play smart at the end of the game the series could very well be tied up 1-1 going in SLC. You guys have a great team and an amazing player in Kobe but if you want to win a championship the Lakers need to learn to play their game regardless of the score and not to rely on Kobe to win every game for them. Kobe can win all the close games he want against the Jazz but the Rockets, Trailblazers, and possibly even Nuggets will not be so inclined to bow down to Kobe. I think last nights game may have triggered the Lakers into championship mode but we will have to see how the respond next time they have a double digit lead.

You guys have a great team, your depth is just amazing but there are things to worry about. Good luck for the rest of the series! I have enjoyed the first two games, hopefully the rest will be even better.

Dr Aki · Post #19 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:24 pm

the lakers maybe need to time their runs in the 2nd and 3rd quarters instead of the 1st and 2nd, where opponents can regroup and refocus in 2nd halves

in the end it will always come down to whether teams can keep enough pressure on the lakers throughout the game and even then, theres always kobe for 4th quarter madness

there always seem to be several parts of the game where either the lakers just click offensively or oppositions seem to lose focus and all of a sudden a 17-3 run occurs and the opposition is once again behind the 8-ball

the lakers are that confident in their ability, they might lose a buzzer beater here and there, have an atrocious shooting night every now and again, but there hasnt been a stretch of games where the lakers have had issues and lost and/or struggled to win games, theyve always seem to take them in their stride and manage to win playing on their own terms

of course teams wont ever bow down, but itll be more a case of "what the hell can we possibly do?" teams are trying their best and are still losing to the lakers. i wouldnt go as far to say as its futile to play the lakers, seeing as every game, the lakers lose focus somewhere, dont go for the juggler and allow the opposition to stay close and think they can steal the game at the end. it comes as no surprise that opposition post-game comments always seem to go along the lines of "too much talent" or "we didnt bring the intensity for the full 48 minutes" because the lakers survey the landscape and they seriously dont see a team out there that can match it with the lakers for a full 48 minutes (except a fully healthy boston team)

but it must get annoying for opposing fans to see the lakers win so much this season despite always seemingly being in the game at the end. whilst lakers fans are annoyed the team is playing in such a laissez-faire fashion

call it confidence or arrogance, the ability to "flip the switch" or mental fragility. theyre all two sides of the same coin

DEEP3CL · Post #20 » by **DEEP3CL** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:25 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Jazz fan here...I think some of you have the same problem as your team does. Yes you guys had stretches where you were dominating us but the Jazz had stretches where we were just as dominating. Thinking the game was never in doubt is a scary thought for a championship team who let an 8th seeded team get within 3 with three minutes to go in the game. The Lakers didn't put the Jazz away last night, the Jazz did it for them. If the Jazz manage to play smart at the end of the game the series could very well be tied up 1-1 going in SLC. You guys have a great team and an amazing player in Kobe but if you want to win a championship the Lakers need to learn to play their game regardless of the score and not to rely on Kobe to win every game for them. Kobe can win all the close games he want against the Jazz but the Rockets, Trailblazers, and possibly even Nuggets will not be so inclined to bow down to Kobe. I think last nights game may have triggered the Lakers into championship mode but we will have to see how the respond next time they have a double digit lead.

You guys have a great team, your depth is just amazing but there are things to worry about. Good luck for the rest of the series! I have enjoyed the first two games, hopefully the rest will be even better.

You come here and try to give props, saying we're great and all that crap. I hate brown nosers like you and heres why.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote wrote::
I don't know about you guys but I think last night proved we can win this series. The Lakers hit us with everyone they had in the first half and we were still in the game. We had our way with them on offense for most of the game exception being the last 3 minutes and it was not the Lakers defense that caused the problems it was our own stupid mistakes. If we can win the next two games at home (which I fully expect to happen) and Memo can come back for game 5 and play with the same grit as the team showed last night....Jazz in 7. Im telling you if we keep up the fight that we showed last night we will win the next 2 easy and gain the momentum we need to win the series. When we play at home turnovers will be cut down, shots will fall better for us, we will get more calls going our way, and the role players of the Lakers WILL NOT shoot lights out like they have been in L.A. The stars are aligning for an upset if we can just keep the intensity level up and focus on what we need to do each game.

Keep believing the lies you and your fans have about this series.......You Ain't Winning It......Period.