jamal crawford starting sg 2009

Jcrawford11 · Post #1 » by **Jcrawford11** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:19 pm

u guys can use him..u need a sg and one more scorer......u can get him for cheap with a trade

JDubJazz · Post #2 » by **JDubJazz** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:47 pm

no thanks. Y'all can keep him.

BiggMann · Post #3 » by **BiggMann** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:04 pm

we've still got playoffs to worry about. trust me Crawford is NOT the answer

HolyToledo · Post #4 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:58 pm

I wouldnt doubt sometype of deal works out where GSW get AK-47 and Jazz get Crawford. Basically, Jazz would be dumping Ak-47 salary. I dont like trading AK-47 but if Sloan stays he is gone. Ak-47 will blow up and make allstar team playing with GSW.

Jazz get Crawford, Maggette & Turiof
GSW get Ak-47, Harpring and Brewer

Impact if trade Jazz become 45-50 win team (same or worse than now) while GSW become 50+ win team.

carrottop12 · Post #5 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:06 pm

HolyToledo wrote:I wouldnt doubt sometype of deal works out where GSW get AK-47 and Jazz get Crawford. Basically, Jazz would be dumping Ak-47 salary. I dont like trading AK-47 but if Sloan stays he is gone. Ak-47 will blow up and make allstar team playing with GSW.

Jazz get Crawford, Maggette & Turiof
GSW get Ak-47, Harpring and Brewer

Impact if trade Jazz become 45-50 win team (same or worse than now) while GSW become 50+ win team.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #6 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:11 pm

Ya...no

Crawford can be amazing at times but he is a pretty selfish player from when Ive seen him play and doesn't take very high quality shots. Last thing this team needs is someone like him running around.

outerspacefella · Post #7 » by **outerspacefella** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:23 pm

Killer instinct doesn't come without a little bit of selfishness along... that's just the way it is... in fact Williams showed some selfishness in game 2 taking shots for himself without running much the team.... and you know what.... it didn't bothered me at all...

I'm not sure about Crawford... may be tha Jazz should think about making room for a Ben Gordon kind of player...

JDubJazz · Post #8 » by **JDubJazz** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:54 pm

outerspacefella wrote:Killer instinct doesn't come without a little bit of selfishness along... that's just the way it is... in fact Williams showed a some selfishness in game 2 taking shots for himself without running much the team.... and you know what.... it didn't bothered me at all...

I'm not sure about Crawford... may be tha Jazz should think about making room for a Ben Gordon kind of player...

thats a much better idea. I think a backcourt of Ben Gordon paired with Deron Williams would scare the crap out of a lot of NBA teams. That being said, I'd still rather have Kirk Hinrich, because he can play both positions, play man defense and hit an open jumper.

carrottop12 · Post #9 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:31 pm

The difference between Ben Gordon and Jamal Crawful is equivalent to the gap between Okur and Zach Randolph.

Crawful is one of the worst team wreckers in the league. Gordon is a big time shooter who has some semblance of how to play a team game.

outerspacefella · Post #10 » by **outerspacefella** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:32 pm

Yeap. I like Hinrich a lot too. Woould be a hell of a addition too. Kind of a choose your poison offense the Jazz are lacking since the Sotckton/Hornacek era...

outerspacefella · Post #11 » by **outerspacefella** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:33 pm

Batronuj wrote:The difference between Ben Gordon and Jamal Crawful is equivalent to the gap between Okur and Zach Randolph.

Crawful is one of the worst team wreckers in the league. Gordon is a big time shooter who has some semblance of how to play a team game.

Couldn't have said it better...

Jcrawford11 · Post #12 » by **Jcrawford11** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:14 pm

crawford taller n better then ben gorden and can play some pg when williams on the bench

carrottop12 · Post #13 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:17 pm

Jcrawford11 wrote:crawford taller n better then ben gorden and can play some pg when williams on the bench

crawful worser n terribler then gorden and couldnt run jazz system if life depended on it.

HolyToledo · Post #14 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:23 pm

Batronuj wrote:
HolyToledo wrote:I wouldnt doubt sometype of deal works out where GSW get AK-47 and Jazz get Crawford. Basically, Jazz would be dumping Ak-47 salary. I dont like trading AK-47 but if Sloan stays he is gone. Ak-47 will blow up and make allstar team playing with GSW.

Jazz get Crawford, Maggette & Turiof
GSW get Ak-47, Harpring and Brewer

Impact if trade Jazz become 45-50 win team (same or worse than now) while GSW become 50+ win team.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

What? You dont see Jazz trying to dump Ak-47 in off season?? GSW have always liked him??? I could see this happening easy BUT it is not something I would do. I simply fire Sloan and get a coach with a running fast break style which makes Ak-47, D-Will, Miles, and Brewer all better players. Whats with that stupid comment u idiot!!!

J_Ray · Post #15 » by **J_Ray** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:58 pm

HolyToledo wrote:
Batronuj wrote:
HolyToledo wrote:I wouldnt doubt sometype of deal works out where GSW get AK-47 and Jazz get Crawford. Basically, Jazz would be dumping Ak-47 salary. I dont like trading AK-47 but if Sloan stays he is gone. Ak-47 will blow up and make allstar team playing with GSW.

Jazz get Crawford, Maggette & Turiof
GSW get Ak-47, Harpring and Brewer

Impact if trade Jazz become 45-50 win team (same or worse than now) while GSW become 50+ win team.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

What? You dont see Jazz trying to dump Ak-47 in off season?? GSW have always liked him??? I could see this happening easy BUT it is not something I would do. I simply fire Sloan and get a coach with a running fast break style which makes Ak-47, D-Will, Miles, and Brewer all better players. Whats with that stupid comment u idiot!!!

Utah already is 9th in the league in tempo or possessions per game, and MIles & AK have been average at best. Your idea to get not only Jamal Crawford, BUT Maggette too wasn't that great. Trade away our 2 best defenders for 2 guys that don't know what "team" means.

HolyToledo · Post #16 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:22 pm

NOT MY IDEA!! All I said I see it could happen and it is an idea I can see KOC will have as Jazz management as they are sick and tired of AK-47 (at least Sloan is). I would keep Ak-47 and use him correctly BUT I see Jazz trading him instead and GSW are one of his few suitors.

carrottop12 · Post #17 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:26 pm

You're right Toledo, AK is driving the Jazz nuts with his inconsistent play and poorly timed shots, certainly the answer to our problems then is to bring in Jamal Crawford. He fills the Jazz holes perfectly.

next2spike · Post #18 » by **next2spike** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:30 am

Sloan doesn't take soft players. I'm a Knicks fan, and from the time Crawford was here, (whom I like) he is soft. Bad fit.

BTW: Great win for you guys tonight. Routing for you guys. Love Sloan, and I love how your team sets "Man" Screens.

Jcrawford11 · Post #19 » by **Jcrawford11** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:51 pm

jazz need a another scorer in the back court with dwill

next2spike · Post #20 » by **next2spike** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:32 pm

Jcrawford11 wrote:jazz need a another scorer in the back court with dwill

Your right. But a team player type scorer. One who can create his own the team needs him to, but most importantly, keeping everything within the flow of Sloan's offense. Not Crawford, sorry.