BJ Ryan to 15 Day DL

youngLion · Post #1 » by **youngLion** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:37 pm

Just heard it on the fan. There's no link or anything but I'll update as info becomes available.

I guess now we can really start to new closer derby. I say the top candidates are Downs, League & Frasor, in that order.

Garmfay · Post #2 » by **Garmfay** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:37 pm

According to Bob McCowan

From Twitter:

"MLBastian: BJ Ryan on 15-day DL with left trap tightness"

J-Roc · Post #3 » by **J-Roc** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:39 pm

When in doubt, head to the DL.

s e n s i · Post #4 » by **s e n s i** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:44 pm

Chien Ming-Wang says welcome to the club, BJ.

J-Roc · Post #5 » by **J-Roc** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:48 pm

Here's the link with the breaking news....

viewtopic.php?f=123&t=900073

youngLion · Post #6 » by **youngLion** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:51 pm

J-Roc wrote:Here's the link with the breaking news....

viewtopic.php?f=123&t=900073

Blasphemy! We posted at the same time. I demand a ten-pace gunslinger style showdown to determine the winner of this argument.

Mustard_Tiger · Post #7 » by **Mustard_Tiger** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:01 pm

Not good....this means Downs to closer and the entire bullpen weakens.

youngLion · Post #8 » by **youngLion** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:11 pm

Mustard_Tiger wrote:Not good....this means Downs to closer and the entire bullpen weakens.

Well not necessarily. Ryan has ostensibly been the Jays worst reliever (by ostensibly I mean obviously) so there's an argument that the bully gets better over these 15 days. Moreover if this actually helps Ryan get better than it's absolutely worth it. Some rest could do wonders.

Kosta · Post #9 » by **Kosta** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:13 pm

Why not Frasor? He's done a good job cleaning up Ryan's messes. Or maybe even Accardo is ready? I don't think Cito will mess with Down's spot, he's more valuable pitching extended relief in late innings.

J-Roc · Post #10 » by **J-Roc** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:17 pm

If Accardo doesn't come up now, then there's something seriously wrong with him. And what happened to Brandon League, the closer of the future?

youngLion · Post #11 » by **youngLion** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:22 pm

Accardo has actually been totally healthy since last season, but after he had his surgery he couldn't get his out pitch (the splitter) back and that's why he's been mired in the minors. I'm sure that someone will come up but I see him as strictly being a back of the bullpen guy, with Downs, Frasor and League will handle the late game stuff.

SharoneWright · Post #12 » by **SharoneWright** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:37 pm

Got to be League.

Stick a fork in BJ.

Mustard_Tiger · Post #13 » by **Mustard_Tiger** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm

youngLion wrote:
Mustard_Tiger wrote:Not good....this means Downs to closer and the entire bullpen weakens.

Well not necessarily. Ryan has ostensibly been the Jays worst reliever (by ostensibly I mean obviously) so there's an argument that the bully gets better over these 15 days. Moreover if this actually helps Ryan get better than it's absolutely worth it. Some rest could do wonders.

All the relievers have to move up a spot in the depth chart, it will weaken it considerably.

youngLion · Post #14 » by **youngLion** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:45 pm

Mustard_Tiger wrote:
youngLion wrote:
Mustard_Tiger wrote:Not good....this means Downs to closer and the entire bullpen weakens.

Well not necessarily. Ryan has ostensibly been the Jays worst reliever (by ostensibly I mean obviously) so there's an argument that the bully gets better over these 15 days. Moreover if this actually helps Ryan get better than it's absolutely worth it. Some rest could do wonders.

All the relievers have to move up a spot in the depth chart, it will weaken it considerably.

Sure the depth gets a little worse, but they'll bring up Mills or someone like that for that last bullpen spot. Besides I have trouble believing that the bully actually gets worse when the guy they're dropping can't actually get anyone out to save his life.

The Dark Knight · Post #15 » by **The Dark Knight** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:40 pm

No surprise here. He can stay on the DL as long as he wants if you ask me. Hand the ball over to Frasor, Cito.

Post #16 » by **LittleOzzy** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:58 pm

I don't care if it weakens the bullpen, after last night I am glad he's gone.

Send him down to AAA and let him work on his game.

Modern_epic · Post #17 » by **Modern_epic** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:05 pm

I just realized that Jason Fraser will be very saddened by this. He was already 3-0 from cleaning up BJ's messes; that's on pace to go 30-0!

trellaine201 · Post #18 » by **trellaine201** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:12 pm

Question: Do MLB teams have some type of insurance on players/contracts in case they are shelved for a long period of time or can't pitch again ever?

P.S Is there such a thing as short term disability and long term disability payments?

Thanks

_venom_ · Post #19 » by **_venom_** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:14 pm

thank god. It was very evident that Ryan has had severe problems with his arm and he needs to be shut down until figures out, and if he doesn't...well then that's too bad, guess we'll go on without him. The way Ryan has pitched so far this year the bullpen will be strengthened by this...

Ong_dynasty · Post #20 » by **Ong_dynasty** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:43 pm

who replaces him?!?!Accardo??