CAT CHAMPIONSHIP- Gremz is the Champ!!!

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CAT CHAMPIONSHIP- Gremz is the Champ!!! 

Post#1 » by Sports Arsenal » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:29 am

The suggestion has been made to have a mini round robin. This is the way we will go. The three remaining finalists are as followed: Gremz, Bringbackhoffa,and Dcash4. Each GM will create a write up against the other 2.
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Gremz vs Cash
Gremz vs. Hoffa
Hoffa vs. Cash

Each matchup will be voted on. In the event of a tie three judges will congregate a ranking for the tie breaker.

Write ups due Tuesday.

Good luck.

Update: Votes should be entered by Sunday night 11:59 PST.
I want to thank all of the participants and judges, this game has been alot of fun and I hope that it continues in the future. It seems like the first go around for a game is more of a crash course to line out all the rules and procedures. Now we know alot more than we did coming into the game and can make any needed adjustments to better the game. I had a lot of fun putting this thing together and monitoring, and I owe alot to Cellar for handling it while I was ill, and for his support throughout it. May the best team win and good luck guys!
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP 

Post#2 » by Gremz » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:09 am

Good luck guys. Sad to get here by default, but I won't be going easy in the finals.
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP---DUE TODAY!!! 

Post#3 » by Sports Arsenal » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:26 pm

Is anyone going to post your write ups????
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#4 » by Gremz » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:32 pm

Best of luck to hoffa in this series.


Rondo/Blake/Jack
Bryant/Smith
Iguodala/Hill
Garnett/Haslem/Harrington
Horford/Foster

Vs

Kidd/Fisher
Martin/Bell
Anthony/Marion/Monsu
Smith/Millsap
Howard/Nene/Miller


Depth Chart

Rondo (38)/Jack (10)
Bryant (40)/Smith (8)
Iguodala (32)/Hill (16)
Garnett (24)/Haslem (24)
Horford (32)/Garnett (16)

Gameplan

We will look to exploit the defensive weakness of the wings in this series. Using our superior spacing, quality passing and superior defense are the keys in this series.
Garnett will man Dwight in this series, which will provide an experienced championship proven anchor to halr Dwight's inside dominance.
Haslem and Horford will combine to minimize Smith's effect in this series, the two should limit his to solely a putback and layup opion.

The rest of the defensive matches will be played out one on one. Rondo and Kobe will beat their men offensively. Iguodala can match Melo when needed, where defensively we hold the edge due to the lapses that Martin and Melo give you.


The Matchups

Backcourt Offense
Rajon Rondo/Kobe Bryant Vs Jason Kidd/Kevin Martin
Kidd's offense this year has dropped off from his usual scoring form. While his primary role as a playmaker still remains, he is a much reduced threat on offense.
Martin is a very solid scorer, someone who can light it up when need be, he is however, still a slight step down from Kobe.
The chemistry of the Ronso/Kobe backcourt will once again be more productive than the opposition

EDGE: Iguanas

Frontcourt Offense
Andre Iguodala/Kevin Garnett Vs Carmelo Anthony/Josh Smith
Iguodala has proven to take his offense to a new level this season. He has proven in the playoffs thus far to be a go to option and someone who will a constant threat throughout a series. Garnett's mid range game , combined with his height and length should cause problems for Smith.
The athletic combination of Smith and Melo should prove to provide some solid offense, but the slight edge that Melo should have on Iggy will not make up for the quality that Garnett should have over Smith.

EDGE: Iguanas

Center Offense
Al Horford Vs Dwight Howard
It's quite obvious that Horford will not be able to match the strong post offense that Howard has, and for that it's quite simple as to who will win here.

EDGE: Ron Jeremy Productions


Bench
Jarrett Jack/Grant Hill/Udonis Haslem/JR Smith Vs Derek Fisher/Raja Bell/Shawn Marion/Paul Millsap/Nene
We have the better chemistry and fitting players, but there is a little too much firepower in Nene, Millsap and Marion.

EDGE: RJP

Defense
Both teams possess quality defensive options. With Howard being the current DPoY there is a strong inside factor. Combined with Kidd and Smith their defense is well rounded. But there is a glaring hole at the SG anf SF spots for them, and considering the offensive threat they are facing, it should be a major factor.
Once again we have quality defenders at every position, and throughout the bench also. When combined, we should be able to exploit the holes that they have.

EDGE: Iguanas


Overall Analysis
Kobe will give Kevin Martin a nightmare in this series. Even Raja Bell has always had a torrid time on Kobe. Melo going on his usual defensive walkabouts will be a plus for us in this series.
With Howard still at times facing foul trouble, we expect the superstar duo of Kobe and Garnett to dominate most fourth quarters, resulting in the series win.

Iguanas in 7.

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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#5 » by Gremz » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:33 pm

Best of luck to dcash in this upcoming series.

Gremzville Fighting Iguanas

Rondo/Blake/Jack
Bryant/Smith
Iguodala/Hill
Garnett/Haslem/Harrington
Horford/Foster

Vs

Ellis/Calderon/Chalmers
Battier/Ginobili
Granger/Nocioni
Camby/Scola
Yao/Bynum/Thomas


Depth Chart

Rondo (38)/Jack (10)
Bryant (40)/Smith (8)
Iguodala (32)/Hill (16)
Garnett (24)/Haslem (24)
Horford (32)/Garnett (16)

We'll be looking to overpower the Hippos with our overall well rounded scorers.
With clear cut advantages at the SG and PF spots, we can look to exercise our offensive dominance and take the series away from the Hippos early.
With overall championship experience difference we hold, we expect to wear down the opposition using our toughness and clutch scoring.

The Matchups

Backcourt Offense
Rajon Rondo/Kobe Bryant Vs Monta Ellis/Shane Battier
While Ellis has returned strong of late, he has still been a little incosistant offensively. Battier has never exactly been a great offensive weapon to utilize.
Kobe will still amount for a huge amount of offensive threat, and Rondo's game of late has proven he can be a extremely solid offensive weapon.

EDGE: Iguanas

Frontcourt Offense
Andre Iguodala/Kevin Garnett Vs Danny Granger/Marcus Camby
While Granger has exploded as an offensive scorer this year, the complete lack of offensive that Camby provides would be crucial.
The inside/outside offense that Iguodala and Garnett can combine for whould overshadow the Hippos forwards in this series.

EDGE: Iguanas

Center Offense
Al Horford Vs Yao Ming
Yao Ming possesses too much offensive power over Horford for this match.

EDGE: Hippos


Bench
Jarrett Jack/Grant Hill/Udonis Haslem/JR Smith Vs Jose Calderon/Manu Ginobili/Andres Nocioni/Luis Scola/Andrew Bynum
I believe defensively the Iguanas hold the edge, and we're not that far behind offensively, but players like Ginobili and Scola with thrive off the bench, thus giving the Hippos the edge.

EDGE: Hippos

Defense
Extremely even across the board. I think the lapse of defensive qualities that the Hippos have at the PG spot will be the decisive factor on who controls the series.
They will hold the edge on the boards, but we will force many more turnovers than they will expect.

SLIGHT EDGE: Iguanas


Overall Analysis
Superstar firepower. We should have the necessary experience to get through in this one. Th uncertainty of Ellis and less than dominant offensive play of Battier should play into our hands.
The fact that there are a number of players still under the cloud of first round exit syndrome, we should be able to hold the Hippos off in a tough series.

Iguanas in 7.

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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#6 » by bringbackhoffa » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:12 pm

Goodluck Gremz, toughest opponent yet.

Best of luck to hoffa in this series. lmao im going to leave this in


Rondo/Blake/Jack
Bryant/Smith
Iguodala/Hill
Garnett/Haslem/Harrington
Horford/Foster

Vs

Kidd/Fisher
Martin/Bell
Anthony/Marion/Monsu
Smith/Millsap
Howard/Nene/Miller


Depth Chart
Kidd(33)/Fisher(15)
Martin(32)/Bell(16)
Anthony(40)/Marion(8)
Smith(36)/Millsap(12)
Howard(40)/Nene(6)/Miller(2)

Rondo (38)/Jack (10)
Bryant (40)/Smith (8)
Iguodala (32)/Hill (16)
Garnett (24)/Haslem (24)
Horford (32)/Garnett (16)

Gameplan
Double teaming Kobe sometimes does not make a difference, however has to still be done. I belive having a combination of Martin and Smith on him would be most effective as they are both quick players, as well as smith be a great defensive blocker. Rondo will outrun Kidd in this series but lacks the experience Kidd brings. If Rondo does get past Kidd, he still has to get past Smith and Howard(DPOY) who will be making their presence known in the paint. I will also be playing Smith on Horford and Howard on Garnett. Garnett brings great instensity to a game, as you can see Boston is suffereing without him, however i believe Howard can match this intensity, as he has put up solid numbers against Garnett. Smith is a quick and really smart player on the floor and i beleive he will be a great challange for Horford as he is not known for his mid range game. Iguodola will be guarded by Anthony and i believe this is a great challange for both players and both players like to take over for their teams, but with teams stacked with great players they will both have to be more of a presence on the defensive end then on the offensive.

Backcourt Offense
Rajon Rondo/Kobe Bryant Vs Jason Kidd/Kevin Martin
Obviously this is a challanging match up for Ron Jeremy Productions as we are going up against 2 players who have won NBA championships. While i beleive Kidd can contain Rondo, Martin and Bell will have a touch challange in containg Kobe, but will be getting some help from Smith who will leave his man Horford, who we will give open 12-15 feet jumpers to him all night long.

Adv: Iguanas due to Kobe being able to take over the game by himself.

Frontcourt Offense
Andre Iguodala/Kevin Garnett Vs Carmelo Anthony/Josh Smith
Due to Garnett being guarded by Howard i see little output from him on the offensive end as he has had little success in both rebound and scoring against a bigger men like Howard. And i have to give the edge to Anthony over Iggy due to Melo is a terrific scorer and him not being double teamed might be the difference maker in this series.

Adv: Ron Jeremy Productions

Center Offense
Al Horford Vs Dwight Howard

Howard no question, his upper body strength compared to Horford will lead to some easy buckets down low.

Adv: Ron Jeremy

Bench
Jarrett Jack/Grant Hill/Udonis Haslem/JR Smith Vs Derek Fisher/Raja Bell/Shawn Marion/Paul Millsap/Nene

My bench i feel plays an important role in this series as the backcourt offense i may lack in the starting lineup can me made up when my bench players get out their on the floor.

Adv: Ron Jeremy

Coaching
RJP:
Head Coach: Stan V Gundy
Ass. Coaches: Ewing, Saunders
vs
Gremzville
Head Coach: Doc Rivers-
Asst. Coach: Terry Porter
Asst. Coach: Mike Woodson

I beleive coaching is also important in the playoffs and i think i may have a slight edge here due doc rivers not being able to win without an elite team with 3 superstars, and i just dont like mike woodsons goatee
Coaching: RJP with a slight adv

Conclusion
This is going to be a long tough series and i believe the front court offensive that i can bring can math that backcourt offence that the Iguanas bring. As well with Howard i can get at least 24-15 game out of him on any night which i believe will the difference maker in this series.

WINNER: in 7 Games
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#7 » by dockingsched » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:36 pm

i'm not going to be able to get it in my 12 est, is 12 pst ok with my competitors?
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#8 » by Sports Arsenal » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:40 pm

that is fine cash
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#9 » by bcortell » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:46 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
Best of luck to hoffa in this series.

Did you just wish yourself luck? :lol: Gremz is tough but not that tough.
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#10 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:59 am

bcortell wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
Best of luck to hoffa in this series.

Did you just wish yourself luck? :lol: Gremz is tough but not that tough.


lol i copied and pasted his header
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#11 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:19 am

goodluck to the Hippos

Ron Jeremy Productions Vs Hippos
Kidd/Fisher
Martin/Bell
Anthony/Marion/Monsu
Smith/Millsap
Howard/Nene/Miller

Vs

Ellis/Calderon/Chalmers
Battier/Ginobili
Granger/Nocioni
Camby/Scola
Yao/Bynum/Thomas


Depth Chart
Kidd(30)/Fisher(18)
Martin(36)/Bell(12)
Anthony(38)/Marion(10)
Smith(32)/Millsap(16)
Howard(40)/Nene(8)

Overview
I am going with a 10 man rotation with the bulk of minutes going to melo and superman. This is the one series where Howard will have a presence to deal with downlow with Yao Ming, and his offence may suffer a bit but i believe i can make up for it at the four other positions as yao himself will not be having a great offensive game with the DPOY guarding him. I dont feel the need to double team anyone as no one other then granger is known for taking over a game for the hipps, and i beleive melo can do a great job guarding him, as well as marion when he comes off the bench. I believe there is a huge mis-match at the SG position and i will fully utilize this with a bulk of the offence coming from martin, and bell


Backcourt Offense
Kidd/Martin Vs Monta Ellis/Shane Battier
Huge Mis-match at the SG position and though battier is a great defender he is no match to the quicker and more talented Kevin Martin. Monta Ellis has very little playoff experience and Kidd has played well against him in the past. Look for Kidd to also have very good offensive production in this series with him running down the flow and pulling up at teh 3 point line and shooting the 3.

Adv: RJP

Frontcourt Offence:
Carmelo/Smith Vs Granger/Camby
Though the hippos have the size advantage i believe Carmelo is an elite player who has made the playoffs on a consistent basis since entering the league. granger has become an elite player this year and will pose a tough challange for melo. But for any drop in offence from melo will be made up from smith who is a much better offensive player then camby, though i do have to give props to camby who with yao will be making sure there are no offensive rebounds.

Adv:RJP

Center:
Superman Vs The Great Wall
Both Superstars cant give the edge to either but Yao has yet to reach the second round in his career...

Adv: Even

Bench:
Derek Fisher/Raja Bell/Shawn Marion/Paul Millsap/Nene
VS Jose Calderon/Manu Ginobili/Andres Nocioni/Luis Scola/Andrew Bynum

Defintely both benches can score but the Hippos have more weapons coming off the bench so the edge goes to them, but with the limited minutes im giving my bench i feel as though i should be able to scrape by without any harm be done while they are on the floor.

Adv: Hippos

Conclusion:
I believe the strong play from my front and back court in this series, i should be able to win this series in 6 games.
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#12 » by Sports Arsenal » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:45 pm

Voting will be in by Friday.
Cash obviously was unable to provide a game plan, so the voting will be between Gremz and Bringbackhoffa.
I am considering bringing in 2 more voters to make it a little more interesting how would you guys feel about that?
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Post#13 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:50 pm

yea bring in as many voters as you want, getting some different opinions doesnt hurt.
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Post#14 » by Sports Arsenal » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:53 pm

I am going to make 2 suggestions.
Cash and Vintage. Both of these guys are familiar with the judging criteria and I have seen them judge games before and know they add some very good opinions and knowledge to any games. Cash, and Vintage?
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Post#15 » by dockingsched » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:06 pm

sorry shaqsux, i lost my internet connection all day yesterday after i posted that i'd get my write up in. i tried to post again this morning but no luck. i'm on my lunch break right now. i'll be happy to judge, just know my internet connection has been bonkers for like 5 days now.
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Post#16 » by VintaGe36 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:51 pm

Sure I'll judge.
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Post#17 » by Gremz » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:26 pm

I'm all for giving cash more time, it is the finals after all.
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Post#18 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:33 pm

i second that if cash wants to post a write up go for it
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Due Today!!! 

Post#19 » by Gremz » Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:10 am

While we're waiting, Rebuttal!

bringbackhoffa wrote:Gameplan
Double teaming Kobe sometimes does not make a difference, however has to still be done. I belive having a combination of Martin and Smith on him would be most effective as they are both quick players, as well as smith be a great defensive blocker. Rondo will outrun Kidd in this series but lacks the experience Kidd brings. If Rondo does get past Kidd, he still has to get past Smith and Howard(DPOY) who will be making their presence known in the paint. I will also be playing Smith on Horford and Howard on Garnett. Garnett brings great instensity to a game, as you can see Boston is suffereing without him, however i believe Howard can match this intensity, as he has put up solid numbers against Garnett. Smith is a quick and really smart player on the floor and i beleive he will be a great challange for Horford as he is not known for his mid range game. Iguodola will be guarded by Anthony and i believe this is a great challange for both players and both players like to take over for their teams, but with teams stacked with great players they will both have to be more of a presence on the defensive end then on the offensive.


Horford's mid range game does not get enough credit. He is more than capable of knocking down open jumpers in a system that allows it. Considering his role on the Hawks and how he is their biggest body however, he rarely removes himself from the paint. With Garnett as his offsider though, he will have much more freedom to look for his space if he is left open. With that in mind however, he can quite easily remain at the high post spot, with Garnett leading Howard away from the basket. This will put the defense is a very tough spot, with Smith concerned with Kobe, Dwight will have to make a decision whether to leave Garnett open from mid range or Horford alone closer to the paint, both of which should be extremely costly.

As for Iguodala, his current post season offense has proven that he needs attention, and Melo is not exactly the most committed defender around. Iggy should excel in this match by applying constant pressure by driving at Melo, therefore taking him out of his comfort zone.

Backcourt Offense
Rajon Rondo/Kobe Bryant Vs Jason Kidd/Kevin Martin
Obviously this is a challanging match up for Ron Jeremy Productions as we are going up against 2 players who have won NBA championships. While i beleive Kidd can contain Rondo, Martin and Bell will have a touch challange in containg Kobe, but will be getting some help from Smith who will leave his man Horford, who we will give open 12-15 feet jumpers to him all night long.

Adv: Iguanas due to Kobe being able to take over the game by himself.


Agreed.

Frontcourt Offense
Andre Iguodala/Kevin Garnett Vs Carmelo Anthony/Josh Smith
Due to Garnett being guarded by Howard i see little output from him on the offensive end as he has had little success in both rebound and scoring against a bigger men like Howard. And i have to give the edge to Anthony over Iggy due to Melo is a terrific scorer and him not being double teamed might be the difference maker in this series.

Adv: Ron Jeremy Productions


I find it hard to see Dwight following Garnett in this series. Garnett is an extremely intelligent basketball player, he will be more than capable of operating from mid range, considering Howard will very rarely follow him out due to his paint presence. Garnett's offense will be a major factor.

As for Melo and Igoudala there is little to separate them this year. While i would also give an edge to Melo offensively, it's quite close.

Center Offense
Al Horford Vs Dwight Howard

Howard no question, his upper body strength compared to Horford will lead to some easy buckets down low.

Adv: Ron Jeremy


No arguments here.

Bench
Jarrett Jack/Grant Hill/Udonis Haslem/JR Smith Vs Derek Fisher/Raja Bell/Shawn Marion/Paul Millsap/Nene

My bench i feel plays an important role in this series as the backcourt offense i may lack in the starting lineup can me made up when my bench players get out their on the floor.

Adv: Ron Jeremy


Your overall bench talent does indeed trump mine, but you are running an 11 man rotation.
By doing this you're taking quality time away from your starters and messing with chemistry, so in effect the bonus is nullifying itself here.

Coaching
RJP:
Head Coach: Stan V Gundy
Ass. Coaches: Ewing, Saunders
vs
Gremzville
Head Coach: Doc Rivers-
Asst. Coach: Terry Porter
Asst. Coach: Mike Woodson

I beleive coaching is also important in the playoffs and i think i may have a slight edge here due doc rivers not being able to win without an elite team with 3 superstars, and i just dont like mike woodsons goatee
Coaching: RJP with a slight adv


I haven't been using coaching in previous writeups, but for fun why not.
Rivers is the reigning championship coach, and this team has the fundamentals of his current Celtics.
We've upgraded on superpower and defense, the exact things that win them the chip last year.

SVG, while great, will not be able to cope with the championship gameplan that Rivers can implement.
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Re: CAT CHAMPIONSHIP--Gremz vs. BBHoffa 

Post#20 » by dockingsched » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:57 am

wrote this up quickly. if its not accepted, its all good. i didn't read any of the other write ups so hopefully its not seen as an unfair advantage.

ellis/calderon/chalmers
battier/ginobili
granger/nocioni
scola/camby
yao/bynum/thomas

vs.

Kidd/Fisher
Martin/Bell
Anthony/Marion/Monsu
Smith/Millsap
Howard/Nene/Miller

defense: my opponents biggest strength, d12, will face the one player that consistently holds him to subpar performances, yao. i believe yao playing d12 one on one will allow me to keep the rest of his offense in relative check. battier will be more than ready to chase martin around the court, granger will have the size to matchup with melo, and scola's craftiness will force smith into a jumpshooter. off the bench i have players that matchup very well with his bench. calderon does not have to worry about being attacked by fisher, manu can rotate on martin or bell, nocioni brings the toughness to matchup marion, and my big men camby/bynum/thomas match the size of millsap/nene/miller.

offense: at pg, i don't think my opponent has the quickness to keep ellis or calderon out of the paint at all. ellis' quickness will cause havoc in the paint, especially with d12 covering yao. defensively martin/melo leave a lot to be desired and manu/granger will expose that to its fullest. scola has proven he can make a smaller opponent pay, which he will do to smith in the paint. lastly, once again, yao will force d12 to keep all his attention on him.



ellis/calderon/chalmers
battier/ginobili
granger/nocioni
scola/camby
yao/bynum/thomas

vs.

Rondo/Blake/Jack
Bryant/Smith
Iguodala/Hill
Garnett/Haslem/Harrington
Horford/Foster

defense: first and foremost, kobe will be faced with one of the few players in the league that have been able to make him work for every point he gets in shane battier, who will be relieved by good defender in manu. rondo will be matched up with a player that can equal his quickness in monta ellis. iggy's athleticism will be matched with a very good defender in granger. garnett will be checked by one of the more savvy pf defenders in scola/camby, and horford won't be able to do much against a legit center in yao.

offense: my team's attack will come down to my opponent not having a single big man that can come close to slowing down yao. horford is not a legit center when compared to yao, and his other big men don't bring the size either. at pf, scola has become a deadly midrange shooter, who's chemistry with yao will lead to either one on one work for yao on horford/foster, or wide open jumpers for scola when kg helps. kobe/iggy will not be able to help off their man, as battier is a very good 3 pt shooter, manu can attack the rim with the best of them, and granger has all the tools to keep iggy busy. off the bench, bynum will be used to keep the paint scoring going against a rather small team.
"We must try not to sink beneath our anguish, Harry, but battle on." - Dumbledore

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