So, Whose fault was it?

[SacKingZZZ]

I blame Ailene Poison. Ever since she came to the Bee, the Kings have gone downhill. Now she's pushed out Marty McNeal AND Mark Kreidler....she sucks the life out of everything she thinks/writes about.

I think the Bee as a whole has done it's best to push the drama surrounding the Kings, whatever it might be at any given point, to the forefront regardless of how many positives there are to talk about. It's really sad.

[Smills91]

I blame Ailene Poison. Ever since she came to the Bee, the Kings have gone downhill. Now she's pushed out Marty McNeal AND Mark Kreidler....she sucks the life out of everything she thinks/writes about.

I think the Bee as a whole has done it's best to push the drama surrounding the Kings, whatever it might be at any given point, to the forefront regardless of how many positives there are to talk about. It's really sad.

Newspapers tend to suck overall. Huge bias, crappy articles, sensationalized news. It's no wonder so many papers are failing. I use the Bee for ONE thing. Sam Amick as the Kings beat writer. After that, the rest, as KIE would put it, is just expensive toilet paper with ink.

[_SRV_]

I just don't think they really qualify as playing different positions, but whatever. Like I said, this isn't really related to what I'm really talking about.

And I just want you to make sure that you see the irony of calling something "petty" and then continuing to argue about it.

Okay. Forgive me. I meant to. I was well aware that the Maloofs had paid the tax before.

Sure. And my point wasn't really to argue that the Maloofs were cheap for doing otherwise.

It's a clarification dude--one that, given the above quote, you seem to agree with. Chill out.

You respond to a post I made with a dramatic "Woah" and "let's look at the actual facts" and later on fail to stick to any of the points you made.
Please, if you still see an issue with my post, man up, make a clear argument and put it, otherwise, please stop this lame back and forth spin game, it's getting old.

[RIPskaterdude]

I blame Ailene Poison. Ever since she came to the Bee, the Kings have gone downhill. Now she's pushed out Marty McNeal AND Mark Kreidler....she sucks the life out of everything she thinks/writes about.

I think the Bee as a whole has done it's best to push the drama surrounding the Kings, whatever it might be at any given point, to the forefront regardless of how many positives there are to talk about. It's really sad.

Newspapers tend to suck overall. Huge bias, crappy articles, sensationalized news. It's no wonder so many papers are failing. I use the Bee for ONE thing. Sam Amick as the Kings beat writer. After that, the rest, as KIE would put it, is just expensive toilet paper with ink.

In other words, if a writer on the Bee has a different opinion than you, it's extremely biased and terrible, sensationalized news.

[SacTown Kings]

I blame Ailene Poison. Ever since she came to the Bee, the Kings have gone downhill. Now she's pushed out Marty McNeal AND Mark Kreidler....she sucks the life out of everything she thinks/writes about.

I think the Bee as a whole has done it's best to push the drama surrounding the Kings, whatever it might be at any given point, to the forefront regardless of how many positives there are to talk about. It's really sad.

Newspapers tend to suck overall. Huge bias, crappy articles, sensationalized news. It's no wonder so many papers are failing. I use the Bee for ONE thing. Sam Amick as the Kings beat writer. After that, the rest, as KIE would put it, is just expensive toilet paper with ink.

You sound like Michael Savage,lol. I tend to agree, although every paper tends to sensationalize topics the Bee really doesn't have much to choose from locally except the Kings. And I have refused to read anything Ailene has written ever since that one article about Peja being so manly and strong or something like that. I had that throw up taste in my mouth for 3 days.

[pillwenney]

You respond to a post I made with a dramatic "Woah" and "let's look at the actual facts" and later on fail to stick to any of the points you made.
Please, if you still see an issue with my post, man up, make a clear argument and put it, otherwise, please stop this lame back and forth spin game, it's getting old.

Dude, I'm just responding to your points as you make them. Everything outside of the coaching was outside of what I was arguing. I wasn't in this thread to talk about the Maloofs spending habits, I just stepped in because I though you were misrepresenting some things. I agree that they can spend their money however they want. It's not really what I was arguing about.

But whatever, you want to say I'm "not sticking to my point" by acknowledging that Petrie had our past coaches on a list of candidates, then fine. I'm not going to bother making the argument, because I just did continue the argument and then you accused me of going back on it. I don't know what you really want.

[ezekielbear]

There is a lot of drama in the Bee, without a doubt...though I think Sam does a great job of reporting the facts. But, it is their job to sell papers too.

SCH (well he did) and Aliene do tend to push it a bit though when it comes to picking a target. Just their style.

[_SRV_]

Dude, I'm just responding to your points as you make them. Everything outside of the coaching was outside of what I was arguing. I wasn't in this thread to talk about the Maloofs spending habits, I just stepped in because I though you were misrepresenting some things. I agree that they can spend their money however they want. It's not really what I was arguing about.

I didn't misrepresent, in fact I was consistently backing up everything I say, you on the hand, threw your post, and then started to hide "that's wasn't what I'm arguiung" "that's not my point", when in reality you said nothing.
Seriously, if you have something to respond, do it, this hiding and spinning game is getting annoying.

[pillwenney]

I didn't misrepresent, in fact I was consistently backing up everything I say, you on the hand, threw your post, and then started to hide "that's wasn't what I'm arguiung" "that's not my point", when in reality you said nothing.
Seriously, if you have something to respond, do it, this hiding and spinning game is getting annoying.

I just don't think that's what I was doing. I think some things were mis-communicated, and then when I said that they were mis-communicated, you said I was hiding. I'm sorry if something isn't my point, but I kept making points about the coaching thing, so I don't know what to say.

You can respond to this again, and keep attacking my manhood for not arguing as you see fit on a basketball message board if you want, but I'm done here. I've made my point about the coaching, so I don't really care.

[OGSactownballer]

The thing that strikes me with the Bee is that they seem to have become very subtly biased AGAINST the whole arena plan and that coincides with the overreporting of the (mostly created) drama around the team.

[Smills91]

I think the Bee as a whole has done it's best to push the drama surrounding the Kings, whatever it might be at any given point, to the forefront regardless of how many positives there are to talk about. It's really sad.

Newspapers tend to suck overall. Huge bias, crappy articles, sensationalized news. It's no wonder so many papers are failing. I use the Bee for ONE thing. Sam Amick as the Kings beat writer. After that, the rest, as KIE would put it, is just expensive toilet paper with ink.

In other words, if a writer on the Bee has a different opinion than you, it's extremely biased and terrible, sensationalized news.

No the fact that print journalism is failing as a whole today is a major indicator that newspapers suck and my reasoning has a LARGE portion to do with that.

AV is a prime example of everything that is wrong with print journalism.

[RIPskaterdude]

No the fact that print journalism is failing as a whole today is a major indicator that newspapers suck and my reasoning has a LARGE portion to do with that.

AV is a prime example of everything that is wrong with print journalism.

PRINT journalism is failing because people can get it off the internet for FREE, not because of people like AV.

[_SRV_]

I just don't think that's what I was doing. I think some things were mis-communicated, and then when I said that they were mis-communicated, you said I was hiding. I'm sorry if something isn't my point, but I kept making points about the coaching thing, so I don't know what to say.

You can respond to this again, and keep attacking my manhood for not arguing as you see fit on a basketball message board if you want, but I'm done here. I've made my point about the coaching, so I don't really care.

I didn't question your manhood, I questioned your spins and backpedaling answers, which are still here, and I opened this thread to clarify my point on the bias of the pro-Petrie camp, and the blind Maloofs hate, and I believe I made it the point clear, this conversation is a great example of that.