Timberwolves draft %

tvwolves7 · Post #1 » by **tvwolves7** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:09 pm

Would someone be able to post the % of each draft pick for the Timberwolves. I know the first pick they have a 7.6% chance, but after that I was not able to find anything. Thanks!

Post #2 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:12 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Draft_Lottery

Post #3 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:13 pm

There's a chart there, I guess it doesn't work that well since Wolves split there chance with Memphis. You could figure it out though.

cpfsf · Post #4 » by **cpfsf** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:34 pm

Worm Guts wrote:There's a chart there, I guess it doesn't work that well since Wolves split there chance with Memphis. You could figure it out though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NBA_Draft

Charts on this site

I love you Wikipedia. You may be unreliable and biased, but ... I don't know where I'm going with this

shrink · Post #5 » by **shrink** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:38 pm

1 7.6%
2 8.4%
3 9.5%
4 -----
5 26.3%
6 38.5%
7 9.3%
8 0.4%

shrink · Post #6 » by **shrink** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:46 pm

Can I ask a question for someone that knows the mechanics of the lottery?

I understand that the lottery order is determined by picking out a four-"ball" (they don't use balls) combination, like "2-7-14-13"

14 x 13 x 12 x 11
----------------------- = 24024/12 = 1001 combinations.
4 x 3 x 2 x 1

One is disgarded, and they match the result to a pre-established combinations that the NBA has created to match their lottery system odds.

Here's my question:

Do they draw one time, or three times?

In other words, does the first combination assign an order of "MIN #1 - MEM #2 - WAS #3" ...

.. Or does the first combination assign "MIN," then they draw again (ignoring another MIN) and the next combination says "MEM," then they draw again, and the next combination says "WAS?"

Post #7 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:05 pm

shrink wrote:
.. Or does the first combination assign "MIN," then they draw again (ignoring another MIN) and the next combination says "MEM," then they draw again, and the next combination says "WAS?"

This, I think.

deeney0 · Post #8 » by **deeney0** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:08 pm

I've always assumed the latter, but either way is statistically equivalent.

Post #9 » by **C.lupus** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:27 pm

I believe when they draw the combination that says MIN= #1, they throw that out and draw again until someone else gets #1.

Biff Cooper · Post #10 » by **Biff Cooper** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:05 pm

C.lupus wrote:I believe when they draw the combination that says MIN= #1, they throw that out and draw again until someone else gets #1.

cpfsf · Post #11 » by **cpfsf** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:10 pm

I still don't understand why the ceremony isn't shown live.

casey · Post #12 » by **casey** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:13 pm

shrink wrote:I understand that the lottery order is determined by picking out a four-"ball" (they don't use balls) combination, like "2-7-14-13"

They do use balls.

And as others have said they draw again for each pick.

john2jer · Post #13 » by **john2jer** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:37 pm

They draw again, and if I recall right the year Portland got Oden, when they picked again, another Portland combination came up, which of course was thrown out.

And yes, Minnesota's balls are weighted so they'll never get drawn. Darn us for having big balls.

shrink · Post #14 » by **shrink** » Fri May 1, 2009 3:46 am

cpfsf wrote:I still don't understand why the ceremony isn't shown live.

I agree. It would be high drama, would get good ratings, and it would dispel a lot of the conspiracy theorists who say that Stern is going to adjust the draft for what's best financially for the NBA, and not one individual owner.

GopherIt! · Post #15 » by **GopherIt!** » Sat May 2, 2009 4:39 am

shrink wrote:Can I ask a question for someone that knows the mechanics of the lottery?

Here's my question: Do they draw one time, or three times?

In other words, does the first combination assign an order of "MIN #1 - MEM #2 - WAS #3" ...

.. Or does the first combination assign "MIN," then they draw again (ignoring another MIN) and the next combination says "MEM," then they draw again, and the next combination says "WAS?"

shrink wrote:

cpfsf wrote:I still don't understand why the ceremony isn't shown live.

I agree. It would be high drama, would get good ratings, and it would dispel a lot of the conspiracy theorists who say that Stern is going to adjust the draft for what's best financially for the NBA, and not one individual owner.

The balls are filled with tiny magnetic particles. Stern, who had a magnetic strip surgically inserted into his left palm, guides the ball of his choice to the surface via remote viewing. This process is repeated until he draws the desired amount of balls. It's a simple process really. I think Art Bell had a special about it a few years back.

But how do I really know the lottery is rigged? If you number the alphabet, starting with the letter "A' from an increment of six (i.e. A-6, B-12, C-18, etc.) the words "New York", "white balls" and "calculation" each add up to 666.