Some issues to look for next round.

Rubynator · Post #1 » by **Rubynator** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:36 am

With the recent injuries to Walton, Ariza and Bynum. I'm a bit concerned. Bynum looks terrible last series and he needs to get his groove on. Odom on the starting 5 worked well for them hope Odom can keep the intensity going. I hope Farmar and Brown keep fighing for their minutes because Farmar seemed to have given up which is a concern because Brown might not be as motivated as much. Kobe needs to be more of a facilitator to keep Gasol and Odom in the 1st Half going while in the 2nd Half the same momentum should be expected with a more aggresive Kobe. Overall i think we can pull through.

KObe Bryant · Post #2 » by **KObe Bryant** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:21 am

True, Some isses to be concered and worry about but not too much. With all those problems about the injuries especially Bynum , I know our team will adjust. Bynum and Ariza will have several days of rest, hope that they could get back. Lamar had find his game and could make it much better.

lakersfanatic · Post #3 » by **lakersfanatic** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:52 pm

We'll just have to cross our fingers and hope nothing major happens. Bynum will get into the game once we have big opponents which we will in the next round with either houston or blazers..

With the extra days of much needed rest... im glad they can rest now. Just hope they don't get rusty on their first game of the series hehe
GO Lakers!

TonyMontana · Post #4 » by **TonyMontana** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:27 pm

Everything will work out on its own.
Im not worried at all.

Tommy Trojan · Post #5 » by **Tommy Trojan** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:39 pm

Yep as Tony said, "everything will work out" and the key word is "on its own"

Post #6 » by **infinite11285** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:45 pm

TonyMontana wrote:Everything will work out on its own.
Im not worried at all.

+1, the only thing you guys have to worry about is playing consistent defense at all times and not just when it's a 6pt game.

magic1fan · Post #7 » by **magic1fan** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:09 am

not really worried. people have to remember a jerry sloan team will never give up. utah has always been scrappy. i hate the fact that we let leads get down,but this is the nba,and people get up to play us. i agree with tony for the most part also,i think everything will work itself out. if i recall utah was the only western sonference team to win two games against us last year,with them out of the way,we might not lose another game...imo

DEEP3CL · Post #8 » by **DEEP3CL** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:00 am

Rubynator wrote: I hope Farmar and Brown keep fighing for their minutes because Farmar seemed to have given up which is a concern because Brown might not be as motivated as much.

What ? Brown not motivated ? Then explain how he took Jordan's minutes. Shannon has everything to prove not just to the Lakers but to the whole league, that he can play meaningful minutes in this league. Farmar has had his chance, his problem is one of his own doing that he's not that coachable and it's a proven fact. He thinks things should just be handed to him like they were most of his basketball life.......well this is the NBA you have to fight for what you get. Ask Shannon Brown cause he's been there.

The Laker Kid · Post #9 » by **The Laker Kid** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:19 am

DEEP3CL wrote:
Rubynator wrote: I hope Farmar and Brown keep fighing for their minutes because Farmar seemed to have given up which is a concern because Brown might not be as motivated as much.
What ? Brown not motivated ? Then explain how he took Jordan's minutes. Shannon has everything to prove not just to the Lakers but to the whole league, that he can play meaningful minutes in this league. Farmar has had his chance, his problem is one of his own doing that he's not that coachable and it's a proven fact. He thinks things should just be handed to him like they were most of his basketball life.......well this is the NBA you have to fight for what you get. Ask Shannon Brown cause he's been there.

Farmar is still somewhat still recovering from his injury and isn't 100% yet. Another reason that he stays on the shelf is because Phil wanted stronger guards to keep Deron Williams in check and skinny dudes like Farmar just aint cuttin it.

Dexmor · Post #10 » by **Dexmor** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:43 pm

Im concerned about the health of Walton, Ariza, Bynum obviously

I am concerned that the Lakers don't seem as hungry as I thought they would be. I would think it would have been a sweep and I would have like to seen a game like the Nuggs vs Hornets.

The Rockets worry me because Battier and Artest? That is gonna wear Kobe out but good. That is the best defensive wing combo since Pippen and Jordan and maybe #2 of alltime.

DEEP3CL · Post #11 » by **DEEP3CL** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:16 pm

Dexmor wrote:Im concerned about the health of Walton, Ariza, Bynum obviously

I am concerned that the Lakers don't seem as hungry as I thought they would be. I would think it would have been a sweep and I would have like to seen a game like the Nuggs vs Hornets.

The Rockets worry me because Battier and Artest? That is gonna wear Kobe out but good. That is the best defensive wing combo since Pippen and Jordan and maybe #2 of alltime.

I thought you were a Bobcats fan ? So now you wanna post here cause it's the playoffs ? Weak.

Dexmor · Post #12 » by **Dexmor** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:40 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:
Dexmor wrote:Im concerned about the health of Walton, Ariza, Bynum obviously

I am concerned that the Lakers don't seem as hungry as I thought they would be. I would think it would have been a sweep and I would have like to seen a game like the Nuggs vs Hornets.

The Rockets worry me because Battier and Artest? That is gonna wear Kobe out but good. That is the best defensive wing combo since Pippen and Jordan and maybe #2 of alltime.
I thought you were a Bobcats fan ? So now you wanna post here cause it's the playoffs ? Weak.

Who the hell told you I was a Bobcats fan and not a Lakers fan? Even on that board I say I am A LAKERS FAN and Bobcats. I just moved to North Carolina 1 year ago and they televise Bobcats games and the bobcats are the only team I can go see. I can't fly to cali. I root for the Lakers because there my team and I root for the Bobcats as well because there the hometeam here. What the hell is wrong with that? I was living in Iowa for 5 years with no hometeam to go to any games. I went 5 years without going to a game except for 1 in NJ.
Why do yo have a problem with that.
I have a Lakers tattoo on my body and your trying to tell me I am not a fan. You call me weak I call you ignorant.

DEEP3CL · Post #13 » by **DEEP3CL** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:17 am

Dexmor wrote:
DEEP3CL wrote:
Dexmor wrote:Im concerned about the health of Walton, Ariza, Bynum obviously

I am concerned that the Lakers don't seem as hungry as I thought they would be. I would think it would have been a sweep and I would have like to seen a game like the Nuggs vs Hornets.

The Rockets worry me because Battier and Artest? That is gonna wear Kobe out but good. That is the best defensive wing combo since Pippen and Jordan and maybe #2 of alltime.
I thought you were a Bobcats fan ? So now you wanna post here cause it's the playoffs ? Weak.

Who the hell told you I was a Bobcats fan and not a Lakers fan? Even on that board I say I am A LAKERS FAN and Bobcats. I just moved to North Carolina 1 year ago and they televise Bobcats games and the bobcats are the only team I can go see. I can't fly to cali. I root for the Lakers because there my team and I root for the Bobcats as well because there the hometeam here. What the hell is wrong with that? I was living in Iowa for 5 years with no hometeam to go to any games. I went 5 years without going to a game except for 1 in NJ.
Why do yo have a problem with that.
I have a Lakers tattoo on my body and your trying to tell me I am not a fan. You call me weak I call you ignorant.

Whatever.... if your a hardcore fan of one team that's who you pull for regardless of where the hell you moved to. Enjoy anyway

Post #14 » by **milesfides** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:44 am

Guys, let's go back to discussing the points at hand.

Regarding Houston, Kobe had no trouble with Battier and/or Artest. They can't guard him. The NY Times article must have motivated Kobe somewhat (especially since Kobe routinely torched Battier as a Grizzly), and tonight I watched Artest just say that the toughest guy he guarded wasn't Lebron or Wade or Kobe but Brandon Roy (he also said Barkley was small and overrated). So you know that'll motivate Kobe even more, who thrives on this kind of nonsense.

To his credit, with Ginobili hurt, Artest is right to praise Roy - he's the 3rd best 2-guard in the league, right behind Kobe and Wade. And I think Portland matches up well against us. Joel is a bruiser, and he gives us trouble with his physical play. Aldridge can give Gasol a run for his money - and has. I think Blake and Sergio can outplay Fish and Brown. And their bench of Outlaw, Rudy, and Oden can outplay ours.

Bottom line, if we thought Utah was physical with Boozer (who ate up our frontline) and Harpring, Yao, Scola, Landry will be even harder to handle. Pryzbilla, Oden, and Outlaw (he's everywhere) are a handful as well.

Both Portland and Houston will be more physical than Utah, and that's an issue I'm anticipating in the next round.

hermes · Post #15 » by **hermes** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:26 pm

Dex, you lived in Iowa, that's where i am, where at?

and i'm not to concerned about Shannon not being motivated, our tendency to give up big leads worries me more

DEEP3CL · Post #16 » by **DEEP3CL** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:32 pm

It's not the starters that's giving up the leads, it's the second unit guys along with whatever starter is in there. A lot of this is on Phil's insistance not to call a TO, this squad isn't battle tested enough to absorb teams coming at them like the 3 Peat teams.

Anklebreaker702 · Post #17 » by **Anklebreaker702** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:37 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:It's not the starters that's giving up the leads, it's the second unit guys along with whatever starter is in there. A lot of this is on Phil's insistance not to call a TO, this squad isn't battle tested enough to absorb teams coming at them like the 3 Peat teams.

Phil has too many Bulls & Kobe & Shaq Lakers flashbacks. Deep is right. He needs to call more timeouts & get the guys out who aren't performing

Dr Aki · Post #18 » by **Dr Aki** » Fri May 1, 2009 12:50 am

DEEP3CL wrote:It's not the starters that's giving up the leads, it's the second unit guys along with whatever starter is in there. A lot of this is on Phil's insistance not to call a TO, this squad isn't battle tested enough to absorb teams coming at them like the 3 Peat teams.

then again, if he had called a timeout when utah went on a 7-0 run, in game 4 against utah, our bench mob wouldve never hit three consecutive treys for a 9-0 run that turned into a 20-2 run later

works both ways...

DEEP3CL · Post #19 » by **DEEP3CL** » Fri May 1, 2009 4:14 am

Akiho wrote:
DEEP3CL wrote:It's not the starters that's giving up the leads, it's the second unit guys along with whatever starter is in there. A lot of this is on Phil's insistance not to call a TO, this squad isn't battle tested enough to absorb teams coming at them like the 3 Peat teams.

then again, if he had called a timeout when utah went on a 7-0 run, in game 4 against utah, our bench mob wouldve never hit three consecutive treys for a 9-0 run that turned into a 20-2 run later

works both ways...

I'm not talking about a particular point in that game or any other, fact is when teams have erased leads the starters have built Phil sit's on his hands and watches the madness insue. The fact that they went on that run in Game 4 at that point in the game is irrelevant because the game wasn't in doubt. This is more to the point of blowing leads late.

Speedlot · Post #20 » by **Speedlot** » Fri May 1, 2009 5:15 pm

Meh. Pau and Kobe alone can get us to the Finals. And once we're there.. there's nothing in our way. Cavs this year isn't even close to what Celtics were last year.( Beat the crap out of the west).
Celtics doesn't have KG..

Oh.. and those "blown" leads... It's Laker basketball. Hollywood. Vegas. I'll let you think about it a bit.