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Angelo Unlikely To Bring In Vet WR 

Post#1 » by Chewie » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:00 pm

Angelo sounds married to Bennett. Just go out and get Matt Jones and/or do your due diligence on the Plax situation, JA.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/04/angelo_downplays_possibility_o.html

General manager Jerry Angelo did not rule out going out on the street and bringing in a veteran wide receiver, but based on his comments this morning to Mully & Hanley on 670-AM, it seems very unlikely.

The Bears added three receivers to the cast on Sunday, drafting Juaquin Iglesias in the third round, Johnny Knox in the fifth round and Derek Kinder in the seventh round. More than anything, Angelo is basing his confidence on the development of Earl Bennett, a third-round pick a year ago.

"I'm counting on [Bennett's emergence],'' Angelo said. ``I told Lovie [Smith] this morning I don't feel near the need to go out and sign a veteran [after Sunday] that I did before [Sunday]. I feel good about these three receivers.

"There is a misnomer about Earl's learning. Earl is a very bright person. He went to Vanderbilt, he went back and is finishing his degree. He had to learn three positions last year as a rookie because he was a backup and he had to learn all three. That is where the learing came in. I thought he got a little bit of a bad rap in that he struggles to learn. No. If we just gave him one position he would have been off and running but we had the two veterans and he was the backup. He's got a lot of fiber, he has a lot of talent. I am expecting Earl to be a very good player for us."

There are not any fixes in free agency right now at receiver. We listed some possibilities for the Bears last week--Drew Bennett, D.J. Hackett, Darrell Jackson, Ashley Lelie and others. Now, Angelo's stance could change if a receiver gets released from a team that interest him, but for now it sounds like the Bears will keep an emergency list handy but will not make any moves.
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Post#2 » by emperorjones » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:52 pm

After taking 3 WR this year & Bennett last, it wouldn't make sense to bring in any vet other than Plax IMO. See what you got. maybe the competition brings the best to the top - or at least gets davis to stop dropping fricken passes.
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Post#3 » by Cliff Levingston » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:12 pm

Cliff Levingston is actually pretty comfortable with our wide receiver situation now. Iglesias is a nice talent and fit while Hester will keep improving and Bennett wasn't drafted for no reason in the 3rd last year. Having Cutler will only help these guys perform up their full capacity.

Another way of putting it; Cliff Levingston likes the idea Hester/Iglesias/Bennett/Davis better than Hester/Booker/Lloyd/Davis.
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Post#4 » by emperorjones » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:29 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:Another way of putting it; Cliff Levingston likes the idea Hester/Iglesias/Bennett/Davis better than Hester/Booker/Lloyd/Davis.


Amen!

Hester/Booker/Lloyd/Davis was painful
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Post#5 » by karch34 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:47 pm

I think it's good that the young WRs are actually going to get a chance. A veteran wouldn't be terrible to give us at least someone besides Hester with NFL experience, but that being said the coaches would likely make that guy the starter. With the exception of a handful of plays the whole season, I think Bennett being the starter from the beginning over Booker and Lloyd would've been much better.

I am excited to see what Bennett and Iggy can do.
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Post#6 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:38 pm

I'm fine with this. Royal and Marshall were 2nd and 4th rounders respectively. It will be interesting to see what they're like with Orton or Simms throwing to them instead of Cutler.

Hester should continue to improve, and one of Bennet, Iglesias, or Knox is bound to benefit from Cutler. Plus we have two solid TE options and a RB who can run and catch.

Sure Holt would have been nice, but I'm ready to roll with what we have as well.
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Post#7 » by Chi Dynasty12 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:08 pm

Iglesias/Hester/Bennett/Rashied/Rideau/Knox/Kinder
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Post#8 » by Chewie » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:41 pm

Personally, I think Greg Olsen is the guy that's going to benefit from us not going with a FA vet WR. I'm going to target him come fantasy time.

It's hard to even imagine targeting a Bear in fantasy football. For years, the only Bears that gave you any good value were Gould and their defense/special teams. Now, I'd have no problem targeting a few Bears on the offensive side. Refreshing.
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Post#9 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:02 pm

I think this group of receivers will do fine, especially when you consider the weapons we have at TE and out of the backfield. Cutler has plenty of places to throw the ball.


FWIW I think Iglesias was a steal.
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Post#10 » by Cliff Levingston » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:05 pm

Chewie wrote:Personally, I think Greg Olsen is the guy that's going to benefit from us not going with a FA vet WR. I'm going to target him come fantasy time.

It's hard to even imagine targeting a Bear in fantasy football. For years, the only Bears that gave you any good value were Gould and their defense/special teams. Now, I'd have no problem targeting a few Bears on the offensive side. Refreshing.

True. There was a time last year where Cutler was really hitting Scheffler a lot but it didn't last. Cliff Levingston hopes that Cutler will find a friend in Olsen to throw to all over the field. Heck; Olsen was one of the better fantasy tight ends last year even, save for the two fumble game.

Hester/Bennett/Iglesias/Olsen/Forte provides a pretty nice group of guys for Cutler to throw to, ICLO.
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Post#11 » by NoSkyy » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:25 pm

Cutler loved Scheffler until he got injured. I would know, I had him on my fantasy team.
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Post#12 » by karch34 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:27 pm

Scheffler was on and off of the IR a lot last year too.

We do a one person keeper in my fantasy league and you can't keep your previous years keeper. I think I might actually keep Forte. Cutler was my backup to Romo(previous keeper), but Forte has more value, especially since I'll be picking 11th.

One other cool thing was Iglesias got a welcome text from Cutler right after he was drafted. (per Tribune)
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Post#13 » by Chewie » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:51 pm

Don't know your roster but I wouldn't fault you for keeping Forte at all. He's got a year under his belt and now he's got Cutler under center which should keep teams from stacking the box (in theory, at least). Add in an improved OL and you've got all the ingredients from him to improve on his already-sweet 2008 numbers.
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Post#14 » by Cliff Levingston » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:20 pm

In Cliff Levingston's keeper league, he's got Adrian Peterson and Larry Fitzgerald to keep, and that's with Philip Rivers as the odd man out.
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Post#15 » by Chewie » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:35 pm

Cliff Levingston wrote:In Cliff Levingston's keeper league, he's got Adrian Peterson and Larry Fitzgerald to keep, and that's with Philip Rivers as the odd man out.


Cliff won his fantasy keeper league last year, I'm guessing.
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Post#16 » by Cliff Levingston » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:06 pm

Chewie wrote:
Cliff Levingston wrote:In Cliff Levingston's keeper league, he's got Adrian Peterson and Larry Fitzgerald to keep, and that's with Philip Rivers as the odd man out.


Cliff won his fantasy keeper league last year, I'm guessing.

Nope, got beat in the first round by DeAngelo Williams' monster game against Tampa Bay on Monday Night Football. Otherwise Cliff Levingston would've won; he was the highest scorer the next two weeks after that.

Cliff Levingston's achilles heel was the RB2 spot which was Denver Bronco-ish. Had Ryan Torain, Peyton Hillis, Leon Washington, Darren McFadden, Cedric Benson and other all rotating based on matchups. Got a few nice weeks out of Hillis before he went down, but that's about it.

The main roster was as such:

QB: Rivers
WR: Fitzgerald, Berrian, DeSean Jackson
RB: Peterson, crap
TE: Started with Vernon Davis, then resorted to Zach Miller, then traded for Owen Daniels
DEF: San Diego (ugh), crap, but eventually landed on Arizona which was ok
K: Longwell

Cliff Levingston did win his other league with a retardedly good team:

QB: Cutler, Rivers
WR: Steve Smith (CAR), Wayne, Berrian
RB: Reggie Bush, Tomlinson, M. Lynch
TE: Tony Gonzalez
DEF: Tennessee, NY Jets
K: Longwell
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Post#17 » by Chewie » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:24 am

Cliff Levingston wrote:Cliff Levingston's achilles heel was the RB2 spot which was Denver Bronco-ish. Had Ryan Torain, Peyton Hillis, Leon Washington, Darren McFadden, Cedric Benson and other all rotating based on matchups. Got a few nice weeks out of Hillis before he went down, but that's about it.



When Cedric Benson's your GOOD option, you need some help. To be fair, he actually had some nice games for Cincy.

I, too, dwelt in the Hillis cave - good pickup until he got hurt just like the rest of the Denver RBs.
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Post#18 » by fleet » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:54 am

While they might potentially be talented and productive would it be nitpicking to be searching for blocking out of this group in general passing plays, and as a quote unquote running team? It is, but I'd like somebody to ring up Dennis McKinnon for a cameo coaching gig. BTW, thank goodness for Forte because of the revolving door into the backfield that is Olsen
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Post#19 » by SpinninHouse » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:44 am

While I am optimistic about the Bears, I do not share the optimism about the WR position. The emergence of Olsen will minimize a lot of this. I think Olsen could very well become Pro Bowl caliber as soon as this season. But I have little confidence in our wide-outs. Hester is, at best, a #2 wide-out. On most teams, honestly, he'd be a #3. But we have to settle with him being a #1.

Now comes the real problem. Who to start along side Hester as our #2? Rashied Davis is completely out of the question. I don't think Davis is NFL caliber. He had over a dozen drops last year -- a staggering amount. To give you an idea of where Earl Bennett must have been at last year, he couldn't even find the field despite having no competition. I find it hard to believe he's going to experience a sudden transformation this off-season. That leaves us with Rideau, who looked great in pre-season but didn't have a single regulation catch. And Inglasias, who has could hands but might not be able to separate from NFL corner backs.

FORTUNATELY we have two really good TE's in Desmond Clark and Greg Olsen. Furthermore we have an exceptional every-down tailback in Matt Forte and re-fortified offensive line with Orlando Pace. I think this will be enough to have an improved offense and carry the load for the extraordinarily weak wide-out position.
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Post#20 » by DJhitek » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:09 am

Cliff Levingston wrote:In Cliff Levingston's keeper league, he's got Adrian Peterson and Larry Fitzgerald to keep, and that's with Philip Rivers as the odd man out.


My keeper league roster starts and ends with AP, Calvin and Michael Turner. That is a nice pair you have.

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