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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#601 » by BlackIce » Sat May 2, 2009 9:39 pm

LBJ4MVP23 wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:The Nuggets and Pistons have agreed to a trade

Nuggets trade/Pistons receive:
Steven Hunter $3,696,000
2009 second round draft pick from Oklahoma City
2009 2nd round draft pick from Washington
2010 Charlotte 1st (top 12 protected in 2010, top 10 protected in 2011, top 8 protected in 2012, top 3 protected in 2013, and unprotected in the 2014 NBA Draft).
*using $10,000,000 TE from the Marcus Camby trade

$10,000,000+$3,696,000=$13,696,000

Pistons trade/Nuggets recieve:
Jason Richardson $13,333,332

It hurts not to have any draft picks now for this year, and only a second rounder next year, but getting Richardson pushes our team over the top, and makes us a legitimate contender. We still have a couple of TE's left and will use them to try and get picks if possible, but the Nuggets now have everything in place to win a championship.

You can't combine TPEs and players.

Ok this is tricky but we do this instead then.
1st part:
TPE (10 mill Camby)
2009 second round draft pick from Oklahoma City
2009 2nd round draft pick from Washington
2010 Charlotte 1st (top 12 protected in 2010, top 10 protected in 2011, top 8 protected in 2012, top 3 protected in 2013, and unprotected in the 2014 NBA Draft).
for
Al Harrington

Part 2.
Harrington comes back to DET with Hunter for JRich.

Ends up being the same deal but its legal. This works right?
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#602 » by LeQuitterNotMVP » Sat May 2, 2009 9:44 pm

I guess it's legal, but I'm not sure if people will let that go considering it's pretty much getting around the rules...
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#603 » by BlackIce » Sat May 2, 2009 9:44 pm

SamBone wrote:Minnesota and Detroit have aggreed on a trade,

Detroit will send
pick 34
Charlotte 2010 1st (top 12 protected in 2010, top 10 protected in 2011, top 8 protected in 2012, top 3 protected in 2013, and unprotected in the 2014 NBA Draft)
Hunter ($3,696,000)
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pick 27
GS 2nd 2010
Bonner (3,256,500)

Confirmed we had a big hole at the backup C spot and Bonner fits it nicely he can come in and spread the floor, and we can also run a Bonner/Dirk frontcourt at times giving us a frontcourt that can shoot from 3 which draws out both opposing bigs and gives Pierce and Rip room in the post to work. The CHA 1st had so much protection we were never going to see it and we are glad to turn the 34 pick into a late 1st. We now have 3 picks in the draft.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#604 » by BlackIce » Sat May 2, 2009 9:46 pm

LBJ4MVP23 wrote:I guess it's legal, but I'm not sure if people will let that go considering it's pretty much getting around the rules...

As long as its legal it works. I just needed to know if its legal and it is.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#605 » by babyjax13 » Sat May 2, 2009 9:57 pm

LBJ4MVP23 wrote:You can't combine TPEs and players.


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STORY_ID=10274

Looked it up and you are right, I could have sworn that you could.....Also as for the second trade, you can't trade a player and reaqcuire him in the same season, I know that it has already happened in the game--but however Skorff wants to judge it is fine with me. Denver accepts the trade providing that Skorff is willing to approve it. If anyone thinks we should not be able to do this trade go ahead and veto it, I am not about to push for a trade that people think is going to ruin the integrity of the game.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q85
A team cannot reacquire a player they traded away during that season (a season being July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.


Of course, since it is the off season does it really matter?
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#606 » by roc » Sat May 2, 2009 10:09 pm

BlackIce wrote:
LBJ4MVP23 wrote:I guess it's legal, but I'm not sure if people will let that go considering it's pretty much getting around the rules...

As long as its legal it works. I just needed to know if its legal and it is.

There is also this thing called "against the spirit of the CBA" that may come into play here...
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#607 » by BlackIce » Sat May 2, 2009 10:15 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
LBJ4MVP23 wrote:You can't combine TPEs and players.


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STORY_ID=10274

Looked it up and you are right, I could have sworn that you could.....Also as for the second trade, you can't trade a player and reaqcuire him in the same season, I know that it has already happened in the game--but however Skorff wants to judge it is fine with me. Denver accepts the trade providing that Skorff is willing to approve it. If anyone thinks we should not be able to do this trade go ahead and veto it, I am not about to push for a trade that people think is going to ruin the integrity of the game.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q85
A team cannot reacquire a player they traded away during that season (a season being July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.


Of course, since it is the off season does it really matter?

Skorff said that you can reacquire a player they traded away during that season, its been done before as well. I agree people can veto if they want I mean this trade doesn't hurt anyone or offset the balance, like its not an unfair trade or anything.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#608 » by BlackIce » Sat May 2, 2009 10:17 pm

r0cd0gg wrote:
BlackIce wrote:
LBJ4MVP23 wrote:I guess it's legal, but I'm not sure if people will let that go considering it's pretty much getting around the rules...

As long as its legal it works. I just needed to know if its legal and it is.

There is also this thing called "against the spirit of the CBA" that may come into play here...

Sure thing I mean if you think it is "against the spirit of the CBA" feel free to veto.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#609 » by Gremz » Sat May 2, 2009 10:22 pm

BlackIce wrote:
LBJ4MVP23 wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:The Nuggets and Pistons have agreed to a trade

Nuggets trade/Pistons receive:
Steven Hunter $3,696,000
2009 second round draft pick from Oklahoma City
2009 2nd round draft pick from Washington
2010 Charlotte 1st (top 12 protected in 2010, top 10 protected in 2011, top 8 protected in 2012, top 3 protected in 2013, and unprotected in the 2014 NBA Draft).
*using $10,000,000 TE from the Marcus Camby trade

$10,000,000+$3,696,000=$13,696,000

Pistons trade/Nuggets recieve:
Jason Richardson $13,333,332

It hurts not to have any draft picks now for this year, and only a second rounder next year, but getting Richardson pushes our team over the top, and makes us a legitimate contender. We still have a couple of TE's left and will use them to try and get picks if possible, but the Nuggets now have everything in place to win a championship.

You can't combine TPEs and players.

Ok this is tricky but we do this instead then.
1st part:
TPE (10 mill Camby)
2009 second round draft pick from Oklahoma City
2009 2nd round draft pick from Washington
2010 Charlotte 1st (top 12 protected in 2010, top 10 protected in 2011, top 8 protected in 2012, top 3 protected in 2013, and unprotected in the 2014 NBA Draft).
for
Al Harrington

Part 2.
Harrington comes back to DET with Hunter for JRich.

Ends up being the same deal but its legal. This works right?


Sorry for being a bit of a buzzkill, But Al Harrington's 2009-10 salary is $10,026,875. Making it more than the TPE, therefore the trade is illegal.

If I am a wrong about the amount of the Camby trade TPE, and it is actually enough, then please ignore this.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#610 » by BlackIce » Sat May 2, 2009 10:33 pm

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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#611 » by SamBone » Sat May 2, 2009 10:34 pm

the Camby TPE is 10,000,000, but the rule is you use +100,000 so
10,100,000 > Harrington's 2010 salary so that part is legal.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#612 » by Gremz » Sat May 2, 2009 10:37 pm

SamBone wrote:the Camby TPE is 10,000,000, but the rule is you use +100,000 so
10,100,000 > Harrington's 2010 salary so that part is legal.


Wasn't aware of that rule, but if that is the case, thanks for clearing it up.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#613 » by roc » Sat May 2, 2009 10:38 pm

Camby's TPE = $9,650,000 as for whether or not a TPE can be used with the 25% = 100G... :dontknow:
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#614 » by SamBone » Sat May 2, 2009 11:09 pm

r0cd0gg wrote:Camby's TPE = $9,650,000 as for whether or not a TPE can be used with the 25% = 100G... :dontknow:


wasn't camby traded for a pick so the TPE should be for his 2009 salary (I think)

the + 100,000 on the TPE was hoe skorff explained it to be earlier in the game, but you can not use the x 1.25 when using the TPE, just the $100,000

It works in the trade checker as well (once Harrington's trade restriction expires but we don't use trade restrictions in this game but if we did it would expire at the end on the 2009 season which is were we are now)

It just comes down to weither commish would allow this type of moving around the rule, but it is within the trade guidlines
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#615 » by roc » Sat May 2, 2009 11:12 pm

we are already done using 09 salaries
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#616 » by SamBone » Sat May 2, 2009 11:15 pm

r0cd0gg wrote:we are already done using 09 salaries


yes but the TPE was created using the 2009 salary it just carried over into this offseason
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#617 » by nba_addict » Sat May 2, 2009 11:16 pm

Bulls would like to annouce retention of bird rights for Ben Gordon.

We are slightly over the cap and will be until 2010. It doest matter to us to overpay if necessary. We have Rose, Chalmers, Noah and Deng who are young studs to sorround him. We also have Brand, Butler and Salmons. We are competing and have enough gas for the future. Del Negro reserves the starting 2 guard position for Ben and wants him to take big shots in closing minutes. That said, we think we are at advantage.

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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#618 » by BlackIce » Sat May 2, 2009 11:23 pm

SamBone wrote:
r0cd0gg wrote:we are already done using 09 salaries


yes but the TPE was created using the 2009 salary it just carried over into this offseason

The TPE doesn't change because we are using 2010 salaries so its legal. Again feel free to request a veto but I think its legal. We will see what Skorff says.
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#619 » by roc » Sat May 2, 2009 11:32 pm

SamBone wrote:
r0cd0gg wrote:we are already done using 09 salaries


yes but the TPE was created using the 2009 salary it just carried over into this offseason

Where is the Homer Simpson "DOH!" emoticon when ya need it? :lol:
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Re: New GM a Team Transactions Thread 

Post#620 » by roc » Sat May 2, 2009 11:35 pm

BlackIce wrote:
SamBone wrote:
r0cd0gg wrote:we are already done using 09 salaries


yes but the TPE was created using the 2009 salary it just carried over into this offseason

The TPE doesn't change because we are using 2010 salaries so its legal. Again feel free to request a veto but I think its legal. We will see what Skorff says.

I don't have any reason to request a veto, I was just bringing up a point about the "spirit of the CBA" just in case it falls into that category. I'm sure skorff will make the right call.
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