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Yeah, the fact that he really turned and played pretty well this season doesn't mean he's not overpaid and doesn't mean that it was a good idea. The length of the contract was always the real mind boggling part. His contract isn't really hurting us anymore, but neither is Pervis Ellison's.
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MyInsatiableOne wrote:Hem, Scal is still wildly overpaid and one of the worst in the league...it *was* a horrid signing, for that amount of $$ and length of contract...but he's been solid this season...
The guy makes 3.4 million in the last year of his contract. If that is wildly overpaid then you should really check out the salaries of some others around the league have.
At the end of the days he is a great locker room guy with a good character. We signed him around the time we had all the cancers on the team to try to help change the culture. He had a great year in the playoffs for new jersey and DA liked him and picked him up for cheap over 5 years. Nothing wrong with the signing in my eyes.
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I think that Scal was slightly overpaid however when he signed with us no one would come here to play and he wanted to come here when it was a real bad team so give him credit. Scal was very good in NJ. I also don't think Doc used Scal right though he was the type of player that needs consistent minutes 12 to 18 minutes a game or he just doesn't produce real well. Also when Scal first signed here he wasn't the role player he is now he was a borderline starter sixth man on a bad team. The role he fills now is perfect fit for him and the team. Lets not forget Garnett missed nine games last year and Scal started all nine we were 7-2 in the championship season. Scal is also a guy who knows what he has to do on the court but sometimes he doesn't have the great athleticism to make the play. He is the 2000's version of phil jackson when he played for the knicks or jud buechler who played for the 90's bulls teams both role players who had long careers on winning teams.
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drsd wrote:Magic fan here:
It was interesting that Scalabrine and Lewis were their respective team's best statistical player with regards to ±.
Good point, although there actually was a lot of overlap in when they were on the court.
Celtics blog has a good post, which suggests Scalabrine had great trouble defending Lewis in the first half, then was switched to Turkoglu and did an outstanding job on him in the second half.
http://www.celticsblog.com/2009/5/5/865 ... ?ref=yahoo
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Idk, I'm still not really sure that Scal belongs in the NBA, but I'd start him over Davis against Lewis. Make of that what you will.
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LenBiasBaller wrote:MyInsatiableOne wrote:Hem, Scal is still wildly overpaid and one of the worst in the league...it *was* a horrid signing, for that amount of $$ and length of contract...but he's been solid this season...
The guy makes 3.4 million in the last year of his contract. If that is wildly overpaid then you should really check out the salaries of some others around the league have.
At the end of the days he is a great locker room guy with a good character. We signed him around the time we had all the cancers on the team to try to help change the culture. He had a great year in the playoffs for new jersey and DA liked him and picked him up for cheap over 5 years. Nothing wrong with the signing in my eyes.
For someone of Scal's talent level, it *is* an overpaying salary. If we're shelling out 3.4 mil for "good guys", what would we shell out for someone with actual talent? A gazillion?
It's still 17 to 11!!!!
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MyInsatiableOne wrote:LenBiasBaller wrote:MyInsatiableOne wrote:Hem, Scal is still wildly overpaid and one of the worst in the league...it *was* a horrid signing, for that amount of $$ and length of contract...but he's been solid this season...
The guy makes 3.4 million in the last year of his contract. If that is wildly overpaid then you should really check out the salaries of some others around the league have.
At the end of the days he is a great locker room guy with a good character. We signed him around the time we had all the cancers on the team to try to help change the culture. He had a great year in the playoffs for new jersey and DA liked him and picked him up for cheap over 5 years. Nothing wrong with the signing in my eyes.
For someone of Scal's talent level, it *is* an overpaying salary. If we're shelling out 3.4 mil for "good guys", what would we shell out for someone with actual talent? A gazillion?
No you would pay good players salaries like Paul, Ray, and KG. Scal's contract is NOTHING...it has not stopped us from doing anything we have wanted as a franchise. So he's a bit overpaid...could be a 100 times worse for a role player. Look at how much Posey is making now. Dishing out that kind of money to a role player over 4 years will hamstring you financially.
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Now that it is "cool" to like Scal, can we round up all the people who hated on him? Remember all the folk calling Danny a fool for signing him? Remember all the brain doctor jokes? Well, having the brain type of Jordan and Scal myself, I was able to see Scal would be an asset to the team. Maybe I, or someone, should make some ribbons of support people who never ragged on Scal can put in their profile.
I still hate on him - and he is still terrible. The fact that he is trendy now just points to the perpetual trend that people are idiots. And intelligent people are still with me..
"And then there are the Celtics. The Boston Celtics won 62 games this past season. When we look at Wins Produced we see the team received 48.3 Wins Produced from Rajon Rondo (6th most productive), Paul Pierce (29th most productive), Kevin Garnett (30th most productive), and Ray Allen (35th most productive). But the team also received -4.44 Wins Produced from Glen Davis (9th least productive), Brian Scalabrine (20th least productive), and Stephon Marbury (41st least productive)."
You think that's damning that is NOTHING.
Scalabrine PER 8.5 - opponent per 19.3. That's HORRIFIC. That's just not NBA material. So yes he IS overpaid. He shouldn't get ANY money. 3.4 million is 3.4 million too much. The guy is a total joke as a player and all those people that plug his "intangibles" are way offbase.
You do know that the average NBA PER should be around 15.0. The guy is about half as productive as an average player and gives up more on defense!
You want to "gloat" that Scalabrine is good? LMAO. We won a championship last year - and the guy barely played. That should tell you all you need to know..
Go ahead pull his +/- numbers from one game when the C's launched a comeback against a lazy bunch of guys coasting on their lead and tell me that makes him good. So I can laugh..
Of course this board is always good for laughs. We have people that want to trade Rondo and think Scalabrine is a huge help for us. <g> He is at best a poor man's Brian Cardinal..
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Pete, let me correct you...we won a title last year and Scal did not play ONE MINUTE in the postseason...
It's still 17 to 11!!!!
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some stats are over-rated.
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He is vastly overpaid, but Scal catches alot of hell...he's not as bad as some make him out to be. He stepped up in the game the other night, and looked good out there.
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I have always rooted for this guy and he is not the worst player in the league and not the worst on the team. Matter of fact he is not even close on either front. First off the guy is a role player ok that means he fills a certain role. The role is to play defense and make the open shot. He is a matchup player. Is he super athletic no but he is basketball smart. If you put Scals brain in an athletic body like say tony allen you would have a heck of a player. Also he is near the top of statistical leaders in playoff three point shooting. Scal is better than lots of players on current playoff teams. Lets look at the rival Lakers bench and our bench Scal is better than dj mbenga, luke walton, josh powell, adam morrison and sun yue. On our team he is better right now than TA, bill walker, gabe pruitt, giddens and even marbury. He is doing a fine job leave the guy alone. So either way he would be on either teams active roster. also how auickly we forget that in the championship Garnett was out for nine games and we went 7-2 and scal started those games. I'm not saying this guy is a superstar but he is better than other celtics role players of the past. he is better than greg kite ever thought of being. I put scal right along with jerry sichting who a nice role playing guard for the celtics. I hope the idiot poster who ripped scal real bad eats his words which he currently is right now. No ripping celtics during the playoffs cheer them on and stop with the scal bashing TERDS.
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And just to add to the legend, Scalabrine is the Celtics' second-leading shotblocker through the first two games of the Orlando series. 

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That is an odd stat for him. It is great to see guys like scal, house, davis and marbury playing major roles and helping out the stars of the team win these games. House tonight reminded me so much of vinnie the microwave johnson, what a performance by eddie tonight. I think at least two bench players out of scal, house, marbury and TA need to provide scoring for us to win in addition to contricutions by the starters.