88' Draft Pick wrote:Okay so first off your analogy is pretty harsh in comparison to what actually took place.
Yeah, the degree doesn't match, but the concept is the same.
88' Draft Pick wrote:Artest was mugging Kobe (who had established position in front of Artest) the entire box out, if you dont at least admit that, then I cant really take you seriously. I havent seen one Rocket fan admit that Rons arm pushing Kobe's head forward and reaching over his shoulder/neck was not a legal box-out. Can you adress this please? And be reasonable when you do. The fact that this took place BEFORE the elbow warrants the foul on Artest.
Nope, you're very correct, it was a foul. I've stated several times that Artest gets away with a lot of them due to his general physicality.
88' Draft Pick wrote:I can understand Artest's frustration that no technical or flagrant was called on Kobe's elbow (to the chest, not throat or neck, mind you), but he has got to understand that he fouled Kobe first and that is why the foul was called on him. He said himself that he went over to Kobe with the intent of getting a technical foul. Once they called the first one he should have just walked away, not jestured a harsh elbow swing right in front of Joey Crawford and kept pushing the issue..
To be honest, I'm not sure what all was running through his head. Maybe he was trying to outfox Kobe, which isn't happening. It was still an elbow that should have been an in-game flagrant 1. To be fair, and without checking the replay to confirm, perhaps the foul should have been called sooner.
88' Draft Pick wrote:Therefore I do not feel sympathy for Artest. If you think that pushing a guy in the back of the head and reaching over his neck/shoulder area when he has position on you is just part of a tough box-out, then in my stance so is throwing an elbow to get that guy off of you.
Good point.
88' Draft Pick wrote:If I was mugging a guy like that in a pickup game and he elbowed me to get me off of him, I might get into a little argument on the court, but deep down I would know that it was me that initially fouled him and if no call was being made, he had to do something about me being all over him.
# of times moofs, over the course of the season (and before it), has called Artest "dumb":
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All in all, I exaggerated a bit, and both players were in the wrong (I still don't respect Kobe anymore).
Morey 2020.
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