Trade Possibles

[saloonyk8]

I know the series is still early, but this is just what I'm thinking about today.

Tradeable assets: Josh Smith, Al Horford, Speedy Claxton (er maybe, he will be in last year of his deal)

Players who might be on the market and fit the bill: David West, Chris Kaman, Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, Al Jefferson
-Probably Jefferson and Bosh won't be available for what we can give up
-Bosh would be my number one choice, but I don't think they're going to take a package centered around Josh Smith

-I wouldn't trade Smith and Horford, but I think Toronto and Phoenix make the deal if both are included.
-I think we could get Kaman, West, and possibly Amare with a package centered around Smith.

-To me a trade of Smith and Horford to get Bosh would be worth it, assuming we can resign Marvin, Bibby, Bosh, and Joe Johnson once they're FA. Maybe Toronto throws in a pick or another big in that deal.

-The difficulty will be in trying to get a quality big like those guys without losing Horford who's cheap and young, but I don't expect him to develop into a superstar player.

[dms269]

You can't trade both Smith and Horford, only get back 1 big man, and expect to be a solid team. Who is going to play the 5?

The problem is we need a big man, preferably someone who can score in the low post. Those are at a premium, and I doubt we get one by only offering a deal around Smith. I wouldn't want to fill a hole, only to create another one at another position (aka trading both smith and Horford for a pf, leaving us without a c).

[saloonyk8]

I thought about that, but to get a player like Bosh, you might have to. I like Bosh better than Amare as well. Maybe Colangelo would take rights to Anderson/Childress instead of Horford, just a thought...

Bibby/Joe/Marvin/Bosh are your main 4 players is pretty sick. I know you'd have to find another center somewhere.

[killbuckner]

I'd go for Marvin and Horford for Bosh

[mg]

I'd go for Marvin and Horford for Bosh

That might be a good deal for both teams. Adding a post scorer like Bosh would take alot of pressure off Johnson.

[Da_James_Gang]

Bosh could be likely with some of your assets you have. Here's my take on some things because i like the talent on the Hawks but its probably not the best combination for long term success imo.

C. Horford - solid big, who will get better as he develops.
Pf. J.Smith- Would like to see him work in the post more. He could have a lethal jump hook but he rarely uses it. He is so athletic, has good strength and gets off his feet so quickly when he jumps, his jump hook would be almost unguardable.
Sf. Marvin Williams- although i like him i would look for another option at the sf position maybe someone a little more defensive minded but can still hold his own offensively. Evans is better as a role player off the bench.
Sg. Joe Johnson- one of my fave players in the league, not your typical go to guy but i still think he is capable of being that when you need him. He justs needs some different guys around him.
Pg. Mike Bibby- can shoot with the best of them but fades away at times. I feel like you forget the guy is out there.

From what i read on hoopshype, you will have about 20m in cap space. Not sure if that is accurate, but i would let Bibby walk. I would look at Andre Miller who brings you leadership, can manage a team, he is a bigger pg who is strong and can post up a lot of opposing pg's, he has a nice midrange game and can penetrate to the basket. Then i would look at Ron Artest, strong physical defender with a nice offensive game. Trevor Ariza could be another option, very good defender who can occasionally hit the 3 point shot and has great athleticism. Zaza would be a guy i think you should definitely bring back, if not then you should look at Gortat from the Magic. You could also use a solid back up pg, i would look to trade for someone like Sergio Rodriguez from the Blzaers.

[Mascot]

id do Bosh for Smith and Horford in an instant

actually id do


Bosh for Smith, Childress's rights and Acie Law

[saloonyk8]

I don't think there's any scenario we'd be under the cap. And I'm assuming there's some degree of financial constraints on the team, so I doubt we'd add major payroll.

No way we can let Bibby walk (unless we get another bonafide PG). I would take Andre Miller over Bibby but we just can't afford to lose Bibby and go into the season with a lesser talent at PG.

Bibby was on for $13M this season, we need him to resign for like 5-6M...not sure if another team would offer him more than that.

We need to keep Marvin too, unless there's a sign and trade...but I think we should be able to keep him around for 8M or so per season, and that's pretty reasonable cost for him...remember, he got $5M this last season.

I'd hesistate to trade Marvin and Horford because they're both young and talented, but for Bosh I'd do it.

And I'd pull a Smith for Bosh trade +Childress rights and Acie in a heartbeat.

[killbuckner]

Unfortunately you can't trade the rights to Childress but you could do a S&T

[LL Cool Scott]

I'm assuming we let Bibby walk to open up cap space. I like the guy, but keeping him probably locks in this group as our core group for the next couple years - and that's a terrifying thought. I think we have to pursue Bosh regardless of whether he'll sign an extension. He's worth the risk. Amare's better, but he's too selfish for my tastes and he has serious injury concerns.

[tontoz]

I would trade Smith and Horford for Bosh. I think a Bosh/JJ combo would be easy to build a legit title contender around.

I think Hinrich would be worth pursuing as well but i am not sure what it would take to get him.

[killbuckner]

Even wihtout Bibby I don't think the Hawks have caproom. I think that for the Hawks to have more than the MLE to spend (cause otherwise there isn't much point) it would take renouncing Marvin, Childress, Bibby and Zaza.

[saloonyk8]

I think Hinrich locked in nearly $10M/year. Even if they would give him away, he's an expensive PG...although I loved him against the Celtics.

I say bring back Bibby for 5-7M/year...I don't know if we can get another PG as good for the same price...I think Andre Miller would have to take MLE to come here. Based on Philly's spending last year, I think they match any offer in that range anyway.

It would be a disaster to lose Bibby and not get another PG though, IMHO.

[mr_grabb]

Lol, what makes you think that Al Jefferson could potentially be on the market? He's the cornerstone of a young Twolves team.

[saloonyk8]

Lol, what makes you think that Al Jefferson could potentially be on the market? He's the cornerstone of a young Twolves team.

Do the Wolves have a new GM?

I don't think he is, I was just listing some potentials in my fantasy world.

Any any thoughts on West? I know Kaman has been discussed a lot, but David West might be available from New Orleans, especially if they can't get rid of Chandler.

[HMFFL]

I think Hinrich locked in nearly $10M/year. Even if they would give him away, he's an expensive PG...although I loved him against the Celtics.

I say bring back Bibby for 5-7M/year...I don't know if we can get another PG as good for the same price...I think Andre Miller would have to take MLE to come here. Based on Philly's spending last year, I think they match any offer in that range anyway.

It would be a disaster to lose Bibby and not get another PG though, IMHO.

I doubt Mike Bibby signs for 5-7 million per season. It's going to take more if we want him to be part of this team, but we need to look at all of our options, and make sure we make the right decision. I'd love to know what Sund thinks after watching us during the playoffs.

Kirk Hinrich Contract: 9,500,000 9,000,000 8,000,000, 3 years left, and the positive is that it decreases each year. Chicago will only accept the right piece for him and won't look to hand him over. Portland have been rumored to wanting him.

[conleyorbust]

Lol, what makes you think that Al Jefferson could potentially be on the market? He's the cornerstone of a young Twolves team.

Do the Wolves have a new GM?

I don't think he is, I was just listing some potentials in my fantasy world.

Any any thoughts on West? I know Kaman has been discussed a lot, but David West might be available from New Orleans, especially if they can't get rid of Chandler.

Kaman is tough because he's perma-injured and signed for a long time to a lot of money.

Who would we trade for David West though? Josh? Why? If not him, then who and why?

[evildallas]

Why wasn't Joe Johnson listed as a trade asset? He's in the last year of his deal and the Hawks need to determine if he can be locked up or risk losing him for nothing.

[ATL DirtyBird]

Dreaming about getting Chris Bosh is almost pointless bc im sure most of us realistically see that never happening. WE need a new coach it looks like, bc these players do not respond to him what so ever.

[lunarblues]

the person that would seem most likely is someone like chris kaman. he could be had for a SnT marvin williams. but i doubt LA does that. you have to think that the hawks wouldn't give up josh smith for him.

kaman, horford, smith, johnson, bibby. we would suffer on the perimeter but our rebounding would be ALOT better. it also wouldn't hurt our bottom line either.