General (Non-Wiz) Draft Discussion

pancakes3 · Post #381 » by **pancakes3** » Fri May 8, 2009 11:36 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGQID66agH4

Post #382 » by **Rafael122** » Sat May 9, 2009 1:48 am

Here's what I found interesting from Michael Lee:

Washington will also begin workouts for its second-round pick beginning next week. The Wizards will pick either 32nd or 33rd, depending on how the lottery shakes out.

Maybe Lee doesn't realize what he said, or maybe he did, but that to me tells me that we're not going to keep our first round pick, and if we do get a top 2 pick...we're just gonna work Griffin and Rubio out. Maybe I'm overanalyzing it, but that's what I took out of that.

doclinkin · Post #383 » by **doclinkin** » Sat May 9, 2009 3:35 am

Rafael122 wrote:Here's what I found interesting from Michael Lee:

Washington will also begin workouts for its second-round pick beginning next week. The Wizards will pick either 32nd or 33rd, depending on how the lottery shakes out.

Maybe Lee doesn't realize what he said, or maybe he did, but that to me tells me that we're not going to keep our first round pick, and if we do get a top 2 pick...we're just gonna work Griffin and Rubio out. Maybe I'm overanalyzing it, but that's what I took out of that.

You're not overanalyzing it, just mis-analyzing it. There are far fewer possibilities to run through for the top 5 pick and their agents will wait to set the schedule until they see who has what pick. But the 2nd round isn't a lotto and you never know who will fall that far, you have to do more homework on these guys since you wont have seen many of them play in big conferences, etc.

Post #384 » by **nate33** » Sat May 9, 2009 3:40 am

Rafael122 wrote:Here's what I found interesting from Michael Lee:

Washington will also begin workouts for its second-round pick beginning next week. The Wizards will pick either 32nd or 33rd, depending on how the lottery shakes out.

Maybe Lee doesn't realize what he said, or maybe he did, but that to me tells me that we're not going to keep our first round pick, and if we do get a top 2 pick...we're just gonna work Griffin and Rubio out. Maybe I'm overanalyzing it, but that's what I took out of that.

We only have a roster spot for one player - presumably our top draft pick. The fact that we're looking at 2nd round picks shows that EG is definitely considering trades (not that we didn't already know that).

doclinkin · Post #385 » by **doclinkin** » Sat May 9, 2009 4:13 am

nate33 wrote:We only have a roster spot for one player - presumably our top draft pick. The fact that we're looking at 2nd round picks shows that EG is definitely considering trades (not that we didn't already know that).

Unless he's working out Euro players only.

He's considering trades, sure, but it's only prudent to start the process as if he were keeping both picks, serves him nothing to ignore the asset, you have no idea how the first round shakes out. Also trades can be completed after the Draft and before the season begins, I expect if a good player was sitting there he would make the pick regardless and bank on selling a trade to free roster spots later, or not. Costs him nothing to hold the player through preseason.

doclinkin · Post #386 » by **doclinkin** » Sat May 9, 2009 4:17 am

I never watch highlight clips with the sound on. And ignore anything with slow-mo. As far as raw footage and skill isolations this is a pretty decent Stef Curry mix. Not enough passing breakdown (since it's a year old) but otherwise a good look at strengths and shortcomings.

Here.

You can definitely see some real NBA-useable moves on the catch and shoot. The most accurate shortfall lies in the section on fighting through picks. Since this is against Kansas in the Elite 8 you get to see him torch and blow by (NBAers) Brandon Rush and Mario Chalmers. Gives a good measure of his speed and relative height (again as of last year, since his docs say he's till growing).

No good example of his defense though other than rebounding.

closg00 · Post #387 » by **closg00** » Sat May 9, 2009 12:40 pm

Re: the 2nd round, HEY! We have a high 2nd round pick the first 1 or 2, Someone is going to drop.
Who-knows, maybe Calathes drops to our 2nd round pick and we give Crit the pink-slip. There should also be plenty of SG's & SF's to check out. Yeah, work these guys out.

ZonkertheBrainless · Post #388 » by **ZonkertheBrainless** » Sat May 9, 2009 3:11 pm

Seriously, you never know, and EG has been pretty good at that spot. Invite everybody to camp and see who kicks who off the team. DON'T TRADE THE PICK FOR CASH! Jesus. That guy we sold for a bag of bubble gum to the celtics is pretty good.

likwitdesi · Post #389 » by **likwitdesi** » Sat May 9, 2009 5:37 pm

Is it just me or would Darren Collison be a great backup PG from day 1? Tons of college experience, very smart player who plays within himself, can pass, shoot the 3, and defend.

doclinkin · Post #390 » by **doclinkin** » Sat May 9, 2009 5:49 pm

likwitdesi wrote:Is it just me or would Darren Collison be a great backup PG from day 1? Tons of college experience, very smart player who plays within himself, can pass, shoot the 3, and defend.

Plus, he tops my meta-draft. Yeah I expect he will have fewer problems than many making the adjustment to the next level. Pure point guard, few mistakes, defends well, athletic enough, hardworking, a safe pick.

closg00 · Post #391 » by **closg00** » Sat May 9, 2009 6:07 pm

Speaking of PG's DX with another one of their excellent analysis articles on the current top PG prospects.
I would love to somehow upgrade our back-up PG position this off-season.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Sit ... Crop-3209/

pancakes3 · Post #392 » by **pancakes3** » Sat May 9, 2009 10:32 pm

brandon jennings' team: Lottomatica. what a name.

closg00 · Post #393 » by **closg00** » Mon May 11, 2009 12:20 am

I thought the Knicks head-scratching stupidity left with IT. Could the Knicks really be telegraphing that they will select Curry at 8? Perhaps they have a gentleman's agreement with teams picking #6 & 7 not to select Curry. Truly bizarre.

Post #394 » by **nate33** » Mon May 11, 2009 1:09 am

closg00 wrote:I thought the Knicks head-scratching stupidity left with IT. Could the Knicks really be telegraphing that they will select Curry at 8? Perhaps they have a gentleman's agreement with teams picking #6 & 7 not to select Curry. Truly bizarre.

I'm not happy with this development. If we ended up with the #3 pick, I was kinda hoping that we'd trade down with Toronto, dump Stevenson (and maybe James), and draft Curry at #9.

Post #395 » by **LyricalRico** » Mon May 11, 2009 1:12 am

^ Everybody knew the Gailinari pick last year, too. Seems like they've got some leaks to plug. Would #9 be too high for Blair?

Benjammin · Post #396 » by **Benjammin** » Mon May 11, 2009 1:17 am

If it is true, it should not come as a surprise as Curry has been talked about as a Mike D'Antoni type player.

pancakes3 · Post #397 » by **pancakes3** » Mon May 11, 2009 1:52 am

a better barbosa.

hands11 · Post #398 » by **hands11** » Mon May 11, 2009 5:53 am

Benjammin wrote:If it is true, it should not come as a surprise as Curry has been talked about as a Mike D'Antoni type player.

Curry just keeps climbing. When I first started talking about him he was at like 20+ or something.

keynote · Post #399 » by **keynote** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:25 am

pancakes3 wrote:brandon jennings' team: Lottomatica. what a name.

Sounds like their version of the Clippers.

Post #400 » by **nate33** » Mon May 11, 2009 12:09 pm

hands11 wrote:
Benjammin wrote:If it is true, it should not come as a surprise as Curry has been talked about as a Mike D'Antoni type player.

Curry just keeps climbing. When I first started talking about him he was at like 20+ or something.

Yeah, we're indebted to you for finding him.