Draft Talk - Who would you trade in for?

[old rem]

Time for a little draft talk. Just looking at the mock drafts and who is slotted to go where and the fact that 5 teams have multiple picks and one of them has 3 and all but one fall in the last 7 of the first round it certainly is a possibility to swap a future 1st to get into the first round.

Who is that guy for you?

Guys who I would jump on if they slide are Tyreke Evans and either guy from Louisville, Clark or Willams, but I don't think it will happen.

I really like Wayne Ellington and Sam Young I think they could be stars in the NBA, but the one guy I might trade in there for question marks and all is Austin Daye.

- Evans has massive shooting deficiencies and a super-sized ego in an undersized body - looks like a Tony Allen wannabe to me
- Earl Clark will be a productive role player, but there is no way he has what it takes upstairs to be a star player - say hello to the next Tim Thomas
- Wayne Ellington will be in Europe before too long or he'll be sitting on his ass collecting splinters - can't create his own shot in the NBA, undersized for the 2 and has not speed or explosiveness - he's a specialist shooter who just isn't a good enough pure shooter to fill that role - pass
- Sam Young is the real deal - but that deal is as a defensive stopper/3-point specialist until he shows that he can effectively shoot off the dribble against NBA defenders - I think he's got a chance to be very solid, but i'd look at Bruce Bowen-to-Raja Bell type production.
- Terrance Williams is the most intriguing prospect IMO - but he is terrible shooting right now - he shows flashes, but he has to harness them to become a star - the rest of his game is star caliber, but if he can't score dynamically he will be a bench player...would trade up to get him in a heartbeat though - 3 position player defensively.

- Austin Daye intrigues everyone, but he's got a 10 cent head....not sure i'd give him guarenteed dollars.

Mostly so...though Daye isn't a dummy..his thing is he's VERY skinny without the tactics to compensate. Even as a SF he needs 15 lb or he's a Peja with less range. He won't bulk much but just 15 lb and strong and he's got impact potential.
I'd assume Ray Allen plays out his deal. The whole plan was jump to a win now mode with a short window of opportunity. Ray's trade value now? Mostly you get the usual fat contract/more years.
There's not any big plus in there. You might however get a little longer window.

[threrf23]

I will add Nick Calathes to my list. He was 19 last season, picks up a lot of assists for a collegiate PG, rebounds well, has the height to be a combo guard, listed as a late 1st round pick. Plus he shares my birthday.

[threrf23]

Among projected 2nd rounders, Tyler Smith strikes me as a guy who could be a valuable pick up. 6'7 athletic PF (ETA - SF not PF). His assist/TO numbers would be impressive for a PG at the NCAA level, even if you go back to his freshman year. His FT% is better than Josh Howard's was before his senior year in college, potentially indicating the potential to develop a better long range jumper.

NBADraft.net had compared him to Josh Howard a couple years back, DXpress says he will be a Renaldo Balkman at worst. If either of those sites know what they are talking about, he can instantly be a nice role player at the NBA level (except better if you consider his passing ability).

Oh, and please excuse my multiple posts here, I am not trying to bump, I'm just adding comments as I look over more draft prospects...

[greenbeans]

I'd like to see Danny take a look at my BC binky Tyrese Rice. He's an early 20's Eddie House with a better handle. He did well under hard-nosed Al Skinner so I could see him doing well under Doc, so long as he doesn't try and make him a pg

[Zin5]

I just want length. At any position.

I am still disappointed Danny didn`t draft Deandre Jordan. He would be a nice center project. Instead we went with POB who is just horrible. Jordan already showed more in his rookie season...

Agreed whole-heartedly on Jordan. Once Batum was off the board (who was a guy I would've taken in the lottery and was killing for Danny to move up for), I wanted either Jordan or Walker with the 30 pick last year. Nice to know we could've had both, but blew it. I like Giddens and think his athleticism will be nice in the following years, but you just don't pass on someone like Jordan, who had a great deal or size and athleticism for Clifford Ray to work with, especially when we just had absolutely no one at the back up center spot and still really don't.

Now, as for next year, I'm assuming we aren't going to be able to buy a pick in the top 20 (well, Phoenix is sitting at 14), so some realistic picks I'd maybe like to see are:

-BJ Mullens: Similar athletic type center that let down at the college level per Deandre Jordan. If we can get a pick in the mid-late first round and he's available, take him. I'd love to see what C. Ray can do with him. Definitely could be a Big Al type bloomer in a few years.

-Chase Budinger: Can at least stretch the floor when Ray/Pierce are out and Eddie's not on his game. Not the greatest overall, but could quickly fill into that Posey role on offense. Could be available with a mid-late first round pick.

-Victor Claver: If he stays in, take him, keep him overseas for a while. A much, much better prospect than Erden. Late first/early second pick.

-Rodrigue Beaubois: Quick, fast point guard in the Rondo/Banks role that DA's seemingly been into for years. Might not be the perfect complement off the bench for Rondo. Pruitt would've been that, but has all but failed. It's most instrumental to have a guy, like Marbury, who maybe doesn't necessarily shoot well, but can keep the offense moving. Also a Euro, can keep him overseas to free up a roster spot. Early second pick.

-Alade Aminu: Really only checked Draft Express's profile on him by namesake, but seems interesting. Young for a senior, big, long, and athletic. Still seems to have a lot of room to grow on both ends and at least can run the pick and role well. Yes, we already have a number of backup, second round PFs, but he's someone that has that outside starter potential down the road, especially with KG mentoring him. Could be taken with our late second rounder possibly.

[UGA Hayes]

I d be happy with Hansbourough or Danny Green.

[Avalanche]

Get rid of Giddens, Pruitt and TA (via trade with scal, for draft pick, or release pruitt).

sign 2-3 vet players, buy a late pick and take a flyer on Patty Mills

[sully00]

Just in case some of you aren't paying attention Courtney Lee just brought the Magic back and Big Baby just buried 'em. Rondo has been killing it in the playoffs they add up to 3 years of NBA experience. Bill Walker was only a freshman, you have to understand the levels of this thing.

The draft is vital because you have to overpay so much for effective veteran talent.

This is not a great draft and while I don't agree with BFB's take on those players I see their warts. There is little to no size in this thing so it would be a mistake to focus on that because you see it as a glaring need. I laugh so hard at the idea of DeAndre Jordan, yeah he is big but have you ever seen him play? He makes POB look like Bill Russell.

None of these are guys I would move pieces for I am simply talking about moving a future 1st to get into this draft. I really think that Sam Young going to be a player and quickly, to me he and Ellington are shot makers and it is such an underrated skill when evaluating a player. Guys can learn how to shoot but you can't teach shot making late in games. The game just comes slower to Young and Ellington to me and it allows them to execute. Ellington is 6'5" so size isn't an issue he is not super athletic but he has NBA athleticism as a player I think he will be a lot like Cuttino Mobley.

I think if I could add one guy to this team it would probably be Sam Young, he is a lot like Bill Walker in a lot of ways but the way they play you could play them together at the wings or one with Young as a small PF.

I love Jonny Flynn is a great player to watch but I don't expect him to drop and I also think he probably needs to be a starter to be effective.

[BillessuR6]

I agree with a lot of what you said sully...but have you seen POB play?

[sully00]

I agree with a lot of what you said sully...but have you seen POB play?

Exactly that is my point, big sounds great but big and can't defend at all is not even worth messing with. Boston's defense demands a lot of its bigs guys have to be smart and mobile. Not a first round target but I guy I could see Doc and Danny falling in love with in the second is Josh Heytvelt of Gonzaga, a lot of Raef in his game. He is a lousy defender at this point but he could be a guy who can get own on screens, take the charge and weakside shot block.

[Jajwanda]

The front line depth with K.G. back isn't bad. Powe and Davis back on the team would be enough, it's a backup C that's necessary and those can be found. It's backup SG/SF that's what the team need. James Posey in addition to Mo-Pete would really do the trick.