Sign Raymond Felton

Hawk4Playoffs · Post #1 » by **Hawk4Playoffs** » Sun May 10, 2009 3:31 am

I would really love to sign Raymond Felton in the off-season. I think he is a good PG... he is a good ball handler, he can penetrate and dish... and he probably plays better D than Bibby. The Bobcats have DJ Augustin to play at the PG position so I don't think they need to sign Felton. I think he would would be a great acquisition for this team. Bibby is getting old, can't play D, but is an excellent shooter.

What do you guys think? I don't know what kind of contract we would give Felton.

MaceCase · Post #2 » by **MaceCase** » Sun May 10, 2009 5:03 am

I actually like Ray but people are down on him because of his shooting and inconsistency. I personally think all that has to do with Charlotte experimenting to much with him at the 2 guard where he is obviously not comfortable. He'd be a great drive and kick PG opening space for our shooters. He's restricted but I don't know the Bobcats salary structure, but maybe the full mid level exception would get him, or a sign & trade involving Speedy for him. Larry liked Speedy back when he was with the sixers so might be open to it......

evildallas · Post #3 » by **evildallas** » Sun May 10, 2009 5:35 am

I haven't watched him enough to fully judge his play, but the fact he shot worse from 3 point range than Josh Smith this season is a definite black mark. I would have to study film on him to see if I can spot a reason for the drop from his rookie season through year 4 from long range. I'd only go after him if I thought that the shooting was reasonably correctable. I just don't think the lineup can handle another weak distance shooter in it.

MaceCase · Post #4 » by **MaceCase** » Sun May 10, 2009 7:22 am

His 3point shooting is suspect but he can get to the basket and is decent in the close to short range. Although I wouldn't put him anywhere near Tony Parker's league he could be used in a similar fashion considering that both Joe and a hopefully resigned Marvin are more than respectable from mid to 3 point range. Dare I say it but Josh with a full offseason not filled with contract uncertainty could also improve his 3point shot (he won't stop taking them so why not practice them) negating Rays deficiency in the area. Al could further develop his midrange thus increasing Felton's drive and kick game but I do agree we do need extra shooters for depth. I could envision Steph Curry being available at 19 providing offense off the bench replacing Flip's production at the 1 and 2 if he we can't afford to bring him back but let me not get ahead of myself.....

lunarblues · Post #5 » by **lunarblues** » Sun May 10, 2009 7:41 am

it would be very hard for us to sign raymond felton. i think we are above the cap so we could only offer him the mid-level, which charlotte would easily match. we would have to do a sign and trade which rarely happens in-division.

evildallas · Post #6 » by **evildallas** » Sun May 10, 2009 10:08 am

^^^ Lunarblues is right. We won't be above the cap in reality, but we are with cap holds. With Raymond Felton it would be difficult to make a run at him out right. I'm sure we'll get more into it in the off-season, but Joe, Josh, Al, Acie, Mo, Speedy, and Randolph are under contract for $41M. Mike Bibby, Marvin Williams, and Josh Childress all have large cap holds that prevent us from going after free agents without dealing with them first one way or another (sign, sign & trade, or renounce). You would have to renounce all 3 to make us a player in free agency.

raleigh · Post #7 » by **raleigh** » Sun May 10, 2009 1:39 pm

Raymond Felton isn't good. Why do people act like he is?

According to 82games.com, he shot a 44.5% eFG as a PG this seasom. 44.5%.

Hawk4Playoffs · Post #8 » by **Hawk4Playoffs** » Sun May 10, 2009 4:30 pm

mrhonline wrote:Raymond Felton isn't good. Why do people act like he is?

According to 82games.com, he shot a 44.5% eFG as a PG this seasom. 44.5%.

He is the best free agent PG available and possibly affordable... Bibby is getting old and he cannot play D... I don't know why the effective field goal percentage determines how good a point guard is. He does a good job running the Bobcats at the PG position... dishes out 6.7 assists, 1.5 steals, doesn't get injured and gets to the basket with ease. I think he would be a good addition to this team. The one bad thing about him is that he cannot shoot from outside... but with Joe, Marvin (assuming we resign him), Mo, Flip (assuming we resign him), I think we will be alright with Felton not being a shooter. He can drive and dish out for the three. I think Felton can learn to shoot from the outside if he practiced this off-season. Marvin did it. I think Josh and Al can develop their mid-range game this off-season... I think we would have a really good team. If we can afford him, I think we should go after him.

PG - R. Felton, Acie Law
SG - J. Johnson, Flip
SF - M. Williams, Mo Evans
PF - J. Smith, ?
C - A. Horford, Zaza

raleigh · Post #9 » by **raleigh** » Mon May 11, 2009 1:23 am

He does a good job running the Bobcats at the PG position.

No, he doesn't. If the Hawks are going to dump Bibby, they'd sure better do it for someone PROVEN at PG.

Post #10 » by **Diop** » Mon May 11, 2009 1:46 am

If Felton is offered the MLE, Charlotte would happily match it. He is looking to get paid more than that.

Post #11 » by **HMFFL** » Mon May 11, 2009 5:09 am

The last thing I want to see happen is downgrade from 167 3-pointers to the 59 3-pointers Raymond Felton made this season. Very few positives about Raymond's game stand out and I can't support acquiring him.

GTfan · Post #12 » by **GTfan** » Mon May 11, 2009 4:19 pm

Forget Felton, he is Bibby reincarnate with a worse 3pt shot. We need Ramon Sessions. He will be restricted, but I think MLE or a little more could get him. He is a much much better defender than Bibby or Felton, and he is also a much better distributor. I think we need to renounce Marvin and Bibby, and probably Childress too (he's not coming back). Then sign Sessions and Ben Gordon, and slide Joe over to SF (he played there in PHO and was much more effective). The use our draft pick on a big man like Blair or Lawal.

PG: Sessions, Law
SG: Gordon, Murray
SF: Johnson, Evans
PF: Smith, (Lawal or Blair)
C: Horford, Zaza

Then fire Mike Woodson and hire a real coach (Jeff Van Gundy perhaps?). That is a much much better team than we're fielding now, and also quite realistic to pull off. C'mon Sund, make it happen.

Post #13 » by **HMFFL** » Mon May 11, 2009 7:31 pm

GTfan wrote:Forget Felton, he is Bibby reincarnate with a worse 3pt shot. We need Ramon Sessions. He will be restricted, but I think MLE or a little more could get him. He is a much much better defender than Bibby or Felton, and he is also a much better distributor. I think we need to renounce Marvin and Bibby, and probably Childress too (he's not coming back). Then sign Sessions and Ben Gordon, and slide Joe over to SF (he played there in PHO and was much more effective). The use our draft pick on a big man like Blair or Lawal.

PG: Sessions, Law
SG: Gordon, Murray
SF: Johnson, Evans
PF: Smith, (Lawal or Blair)
C: Horford, Zaza

Then fire Mike Woodson and hire a real coach (Jeff Van Gundy perhaps?). That is a much much better team than we're fielding now, and also quite realistic to pull off. C'mon Sund, make it happen.

Sessions won't provide us with any 3-point shooting. I personally don't care for a point guard that doesn't have that weapon. Your obviously trying to offset that with Ben Gordon, but by moving Joe to the 3, it's only going to put even more pressure on Al and Josh Smith. Al has already proven he can't handle the 5 against the bigger 5's for a full season. Joe won't be the type of 3 that's going to get inside and pound with the bigger players.

GTfan · Post #14 » by **GTfan** » Mon May 11, 2009 7:38 pm

Its true, Sessions doesn't shoot the 3. But I wouldn't put that as a deal breaker for a PG. Bibby can shoot the 3, but his defense to so attrocious that it compeltely negates any positive impact from his perimiter shooting. This draft is full of promising PG's, I'd love it if we could trade up for Lawson, but I dont think we have the pieces to make it happen. I still look at Sessions as a big upgrade over Bibby, and they're gonna cost about the same.