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Under-rated and under-looked, Rondo may lead to title

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Under-rated and under-looked, Rondo may lead to title 

Post#1 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Mon May 11, 2009 9:20 pm

When the Celtics lost KG. It was a very significant blow to their hopes of repeating. No doubt still, a 60+ win team. It was obvious the C's were still very good. But missing 20/10, interior defense every night is ridiculously hard to replace. Ask the 41-41 Philadelphia Sixers, who most certainly contrary to most fans analysis would be better with a shotblocking, rebounding 4 that can also score from the mid-range to the painted area. It became even more evident when the 2nd seeded Celtics faced a suprisingly very deadly Chicago Bulls team. Someone needed to step up in order to fill the 20/10 void. If not, the Celtics faced elimination at any given opponent.

There was a time of course, before the Celtics swaped the 5th pick and their youth for Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen and formed the Fab 3 with Paul Pierce, the unquestioned leader of the Celtic Franchise. A time of mediocrity that eventually led to losing. But with that losing came exciting youth.

In the name of now Minnesota Timberwolves F/C Al Jefferson, Mavericks Swing Man Gerald Green and Cavaliers Starting Combo Guard Delonte West. Delonte West managed the game beautifully to averaging a 15/5/5 with the Boston Celtics. Gerald Green infuriated with his lack of BBall IQ but his talent was there, leading many to compare to T-Mac. Al Jefferson was an inside post presence, many comparing to the Boston Great Bill Russell.

Note: Some Posters on RealGM/Other boards have made these comparisons. I'm only going by what I remember.

Underneath the talented youth of Boston laid another young kid, one not so highly touted. He was picked in the mid-rounds. Like Thad Young and Rodney Stuckey after him. He was long and leaky. He didn't exactly look like he'd have a great offensive impact. Though his defensive skills were obvious. It wouldn't be so bad if he turned out to be Fred Jones, the 6'5 Indianapolis Guard known for his defensive game.

After failing to get the #1 overall draft pick, Danny Ainge sensed that the rebuilding project was as far as it could go. And packaged the fifth along with some other pieces to net in Ray Allen. Now the Celtics had a sharp shooting 2 guard to go along with the explosive Pierce and the young Al Jefferson. But Ainge had other plans. He traded the All-star Forward, the explosive Green, and the young Combo Guard stud to bring in: Kevin Garnett.

Kevin Garnett, who was like Duncan in many ways at 6'11, long arms. He was such an upgrade over Jefferson. Now the Celtics were set. With a man who could not only patrol the paint. But give them a legit post presense down low. This along with a banger in Kenderick Perkins, Ray Allen, PP. The talent was there.

But the questions were mounting: So many good players, all in the same starting lineup? Would there be enough balls to go around? And who was the Point Guard? With Delonte West gone, the position was weak....Seemingly.

Rajon Rondo, the young kid with offensive question marks heard of the trades to acquire the Hall of Fame Shooting Guard and Power Forward. And he immediately swore to work on his game. And to meet the Fab-3 in person. The commitment Rondo made to the team was the beginning of the journey that would eventually unveil a 17th banner in Beanstown.

While Rondo's offensive game may not have taken up to speed that year(10.9 PPG). He did his job as a Point Guard. Defensively being the stud that he was. Along with his 6 AST-1 Turnover. The Celtics got more then what they bargained for. But infact, they didn't even know what they got yet.

Following the year they won the NBA title. Rondo didn't regress, he improved dramatically. Showing what he showed in the Playoffs in early February: Averaging 13/10/7 Rebs. And while it may not have shown itself on a consistent basis. In 4 months, Rondo averaged more then 12 pts a game. Slowly but surely, Rondo was becoming a beast on the offensive end.

Indeed, Rondo was more then a role-player now. He was becoming and he most definately is. The unquestioned franchise Point Guard of the Boston Celtics. His defense, his poise, his command. Kevin Garnett commented on it and praised Rondo. Little did we realize how serious Garnett was. In the face of hall of famers, the quiet but poised Rondo improved himself.

Of course, having 3 hall of famers may have made it alot easier for Rondo then it would've been managing the team starting Jefferson and Green. But it was also alot harder. How to get the ball in the spots for these great scorers to score? Their tendencies? Their weaknesses. To learn that all in the face of 2-3 months and then to win an NBA title?

Rondo was then and now: For real. The C's got a HUGE steal. A franchise point guard for cash? This is the basketball equivalent of when Tom Brady went all the way down to the 6th round. Or when the Miami Dolphins were able to select Dan Marino at #27.

But nothing was more evident then the series in Chicago and Last Night's game in Orlando. Down 2-1, in the face of a near-insurmountable 3-1 deficit possibly at the hands of the Magic who just a few nights ago blew them out? Rajon Rondo responded offensively like he has all Playoffs long: Like he's somehow a combination of Allen Iverson and Magic Johnson.

Managing the game, beautifully like a Magic, Rebounding like a Magic(13 rebounds, holy **** batman :D). And scoring like an A.I getting in the Lane and drawing fouls like it's no body's business.(He only shot 7 attempts from the field). Rajon Rondo has stepped up his game considerably in the face of Kevin Garnett's absence, and he's stepped up his leadership and it shows.

Where are the Celtics if Rajon Rondo doesn't step up like he has? Facing a Derrick Rose-caliber PG. Then finding himself with an under-rated duo of Lee and Redick or Lee/Alston?

They're probably at home, sitting and eating popcorn while we would've watched the very entertaining thought of Dwight Howard trying to beat Derrick Rose and likewise, could Rose get past the shotblocking prowess that Howard brings? Ah, maybe next year we'll see.

Thanks to Rondo though, Celtic fans can tune in at 7 and watch their basketball team. A team that Glen Davis said "played Celtics Basketball". They couldn't have played it without Rajon Rondo.

It was Big Baby who hit the shot, it was Pierce who created the winning play. But it was the young Point Guard: Rajon Rondo. Who filled the offensive void of Kevin Garnett.

With his newly found mid-range J and his speed. Rondo is a monster in the paint like a Garnett. And he's an incredible playmaker. His speed and his J opens up SO much for the Celtics. So many open 3's for two dangerous shooters. One a hall of famer, the other a dangerous slasher. And if Glen Baby Davis can keep on knocking down that Mid-range J?

Before the playoffs began, we knew it was going to be tough for the Celtics. It got tougher losing Powe to injury. But this one man, this young man that was so filled with questions two years ago is seemingly giving all the answers and is creating a path, a tunnel to an 18th banner on that mystical Boston Garden:
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In the midst of all the LeBron hype, we could be witnessing the next Bob Cousy.
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Post#2 » by celticfan42487 » Mon May 11, 2009 9:32 pm

Yeah Rondo's pretty good.
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Post#3 » by chakdaddy » Mon May 11, 2009 10:04 pm

The sentiment is nice, but some factual errors:

Rondo was acquired for a future draft pick that became Rudy Fernandez. Not cash.

I don't think anyone compared Jefferson to Russell; even if they did it was an asinine comparison. The frequent and much more accurate comparison was to Kevin McHale.
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Post#4 » by Hemingway » Mon May 11, 2009 11:39 pm

I thought it was for cash
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Post#5 » by Gant » Mon May 11, 2009 11:50 pm

"traded a future first-round pick to the Phoenix Suns for the draft rights to guard Rajon Rondo and forward Brian Grant"

http://hoopshype.com/general_managers/danny_ainge.htm

This wasn't Boston's own pick. I think it might have been the pick received from the Cleveland in the Jiri Welsch trade: "traded guard Jiri Welsch to the Cleveland Cavaliers for a 2007 first-round pick"

Phoenix used the pick on Fernandez, then traded him to Portland for cash.
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Post#6 » by chakdaddy » Tue May 12, 2009 12:11 am

Yes, it was definitely the Jiri Welsch pick.

Portland's cash is good enough to buy a pick from Phoenix, but they won't accept cash from Boston - apparently only future draft picks which they can then sell to Portland.

VERY obnoxious. This is one of those cases where we overpaid given the market value, but it works out in the end since Rondo was more than worth the inflated price we paid.
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Post#7 » by ParticleMan » Tue May 12, 2009 1:27 am

Nice article.
But please stop with the. sentence fragments. bad english. :wink:
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Post#8 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue May 12, 2009 6:23 am

Hemingway wrote:I thought it was for cash


No. Even those of us who liked the deal were at least a little annoyed that Phoenix's other picks went for cash, but we somehow had to pay a pick.
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Post#9 » by MyInsatiableOne » Tue May 12, 2009 10:44 am

chakdaddy wrote:The sentiment is nice, but some factual errors:

Rondo was acquired for a future draft pick that became Rudy Fernandez. Not cash.

I don't think anyone compared Jefferson to Russell; even if they did it was an asinine comparison. The frequent and much more accurate comparison was to Kevin McHale.


Not to be confused with Laker fans comparing Bynum to...well, you know... 8-)
It's still 17 to 11!!!!
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Post#10 » by chakdaddy » Tue May 12, 2009 2:31 pm

MyInsatiableOne wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:
I don't think anyone compared Jefferson to Russell; even if they did it was an asinine comparison. The frequent and much more accurate comparison was to Kevin McHale.


Not to be confused with Laker fans comparing Bynum to...well, you know... 8-)



Come on now, apart from the defense, it's a great comparison - some of Al's post moves are uncanny in their similarity...Al might be the best post scorer in the NBA and it was fairly obvious he was on his way before we traded him.
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Post#11 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Tue May 12, 2009 2:57 pm

ParticleMan wrote:Nice article.
But please stop with the. sentence fragments. bad english. :wink:



What do you mean, can you show me in detail please? Thanks, I love writing and love criticism. They go hand in hand to becoming a better writer.
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Post#12 » by Gold Chain » Tue May 12, 2009 3:47 pm

Rondo may lead to title?

How about Big 3 won you a title and the ride will end in the ECF against Cavs if you are lucky enough to out the Magic.

Wow.
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Post#13 » by Gant » Tue May 12, 2009 3:58 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:Nice article.
But please stop with the. sentence fragments. bad english. :wink:



What do you mean, can you show me in detail please? Thanks, I love writing and love criticism. They go hand in hand to becoming a better writer.



I edited it for you. Here you go:

When the Celtics lost KG it was a very significant blow to their hopes of repeating. It was obvious the C's were still very good having won 60+ games, but Garnett's 20/10 and premier interior defense every night is ridiculously hard to replace.

This immediately became evident when the 2nd seeded Celtics faced a surprisingly good Chicago Bulls team. Someone needed to step up in order to fill the 20/10 void. If not the Celtics faced elimination, humiliation, and degradation.

There was a time before the Celtics swapped for Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen- a barren hurtful time of mediocrity and losing. The only solace was exciting youth.

Screw that though: Away went F/C Al Jefferson, Gerald Green and Delonte West. West managed the game beautifully, averaging a 15/5/5 with the Boston Celtics. Gerald Green infuriated everyone including his closest relatives with his lack of bball IQ but his talent was there, leading many to erroneously compare him to T-Mac. Al Jefferson was an inside post presence bringing back memories of Kevin McHale.

After failing to get the #1 overall draft pick Danny Ainge dramatically changed plans, packaging the fifth pick along with some other pieces to net Ray Allen. Now the Celtics had a sharp shooting 2 guard to go along with the explosive Pierce. Ainge then traded Jefferson, the explosive Green, Ryan Gomes, and the putridly disappointing Sebastian Telfair to bring in Kevin Garnett.

The Celtics were set. In Garnett they had a man who could not only patrol the paint but give them a legit post presence down low. Along with banger Kendrick Perkins, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce the talent was there.

But questions mounted: So many good players all in the same starting lineup? Would there be enough balls to go around? Who was the Point Guard? With Delonte West gone, the position was weak... seemingly...

Rajon Rondo immediately vowed to work on his game. Over the next two seasons he would silence all doubters. While Rondo's scoring was modest (10.9 PPG) he did his job as a point guard, quickly demonstrating skills as a passer, rebounder, defender, and floor general. The Celtics had gotten even more than they bargained for.

Rondo was much more than a role-player; he was becoming the unquestioned franchise point guard of the Boston Celtics. The C's got a HUGE steal. A franchise point guard for a future late first rounder? Yes please.

Rondo's prowess was never more evident than the series in Chicago and last night's game in Orlando. Down 2-1, in the face of a near-insurmountable 3-1 deficit at the hands of the Magic Rajon Rondo responded like he had all playoffs long: like the brilliant but illicit offspring of Allen Iverson and Magic Johnson's secret love affair.

Rebounding and managing the game beautifully like Magic and scoring like an A.I, getting in the lane and drawing numerous fouls, Rajon Rondo arrived!

Where are the Celtics now if Rajon Rondo doesn't step up like this- first facing the talented Derrick Rose, then a fairly mediocre duo of Lee and Redick or Lee/Alston? They're probably at home, sitting and eating popcorn or more likely a much more expensive snack food.

Thanks to Rondo though Celtic fans can tune in at 7 and watch their basketball team, a team that Glen Davis said "played Celtics Basketball". Damn right Baby!

It was Big Baby who hit the shot, it was Pierce who created the winning play, but it was the young point guard Rajon Rondo who filled the offensive void created by the absence of Kevin Garnett.

With his newly found offense Rondo is a monster. He's an incredible playmaker. His speed and drives open up SO much for the Celtics.

Before the playoffs began, we knew it was going to be tough for the Celtics. It got tougher losing Powe to injury. But this one man, this remarkable young man who was surrounded by questions two years ago is seemingly giving all the right answers and is creating a path to the 18th banner:
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In the midst of all the LeBron hype, we could be witnessing the next Bob Cousy.

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