What about JT at C?

[KF10]

Ya I will agree to that, but compared to Hedo or any of the other small forwards that cdt3 was talking about he absolutely gets left behind. He is a great ball handler for a PF/C, but would be the worst ball handling starting SF in the league.

Ok, fair enough, agreed. If Jason started at the SF, he would be a below average to average ball handler compare to other SFs. But I do think that we can play Thompson at the SF for spot minutes like we usually did throughout the season though. But I won't really consider him starting the SF.

[murray]

I just dont understand how you can classify JT as a good defender. IMO we had no one on our front line that is currently a good defender, but both bigs were works in progress. Im sorry but JT does nothing spectacular. He has no niche in the game. He is a role player. Griffin and Hawes do and will have that niche. I hope the best for JT, but laugh at the idea of him playing center instead of Hawes.

[murray]

Ya I will agree to that, but compared to Hedo or any of the other small forwards that cdt3 was talking about he absolutely gets left behind. He is a great ball handler for a PF/C, but would be the worst ball handling starting SF in the league.

Ok, fair enough, agreed. If Jason started at the SF, he would be a below average to average ball handler compare to other SFs. But I do think that we can play Thompson at the SF for spot minutes like we usually did throughout the season though. But I won't really consider him starting the SF.

Agreed. I have no problem with JT playing minutes at the SF, but not against teams with a Kevin Durant type player that will destroy JT on the offensive end.

[Wolfay]

Jason will be awesome, but in defense of Hawes, I've seen Jason get way more intimidated than Hawes and Hawes actually played pretty well against the likes of Shaq and Yao during the second half of the season. With or without Griffin, we have a solid frontcourt for years to come and I think it would be foolish to trade anyone.

[murray]

Jason will be awesome, but in defense of Hawes, I've seen Jason get way more intimidated than Hawes and Hawes actually played pretty well against the likes of Shaq and Yao during the second half of the season. With or without Griffin, we have a solid frontcourt for years to come and I think it would be foolish to trade anyone.

He had a monster game against gasol too. IMO Hawes has a good developing inside outside game based on finess. I really do not see that from JT. He lacks any sort of post move, like a hook or anything. He scores inside off offensive rebounds mainly. And he is a decent midrange shooter, but again nothing spectacular like Hawes.

I still think it is funny that someone was complaining when I compared JT to Scola in terms of role. If anyone knows where that thread is please let me know.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

Jason will be awesome, but in defense of Hawes, I've seen Jason get way more intimidated than Hawes and Hawes actually played pretty well against the likes of Shaq and Yao during the second half of the season. With or without Griffin, we have a solid frontcourt for years to come and I think it would be foolish to trade anyone.

He had a monster game against gasol too. IMO Hawes has a good developing inside outside game based on finess. I really do not see that from JT. He lacks any sort of post move, like a hook or anything. He scores inside off offensive rebounds mainly. And he is a decent midrange shooter, but again nothing spectacular like Hawes.

I still think it is funny that someone was complaining when I compared JT to Scola in terms of role. If anyone knows where that thread is please let me know.

I think a realistic opinion of Thompson (not optimistic but not pessimistic) is a rich man's Scola.

[BMiller52]

Jason will be awesome, but in defense of Hawes, I've seen Jason get way more intimidated than Hawes and Hawes actually played pretty well against the likes of Shaq and Yao during the second half of the season. With or without Griffin, we have a solid frontcourt for years to come and I think it would be foolish to trade anyone.

He had a monster game against gasol too. IMO Hawes has a good developing inside outside game based on finess. I really do not see that from JT. He lacks any sort of post move, like a hook or anything. He scores inside off offensive rebounds mainly. And he is a decent midrange shooter, but again nothing spectacular like Hawes.

I still think it is funny that someone was complaining when I compared JT to Scola in terms of role. If anyone knows where that thread is please let me know.

I think a realistic opinion of Thompson (not optimistic but not pessimistic) is a rich man's Scola.

He reminds me a lot more of a young Rasheed Wallace.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

^^^I would say that a little on the optimistic side but entirely possible.

[murray]

^^^^ seriously. Young Rasheed was a superstar.

[pillwenney]

He had a monster game against gasol too. IMO Hawes has a good developing inside outside game based on finess. I really do not see that from JT. He lacks any sort of post move, like a hook or anything. He scores inside off offensive rebounds mainly. And he is a decent midrange shooter, but again nothing spectacular like Hawes.

Jason didn't really have much of a post game coming into the league like Spencer--like others said, this can be blamed a lot on his status as a late bloomer (since most perimeter players obviously don't develop a post game). But he has shown great foot speed for his size, and seems to be developing some hints of a post game as well. I would also say they are close to the same from mid-range (although Spencer obviously has more range). Jason is the clearly more efficient scorer right now, and that's more of a knock on Spencer than anything. Again, Spencer has a lot of room to grow here, but that's something he really needs to work on. Right now, Jason is clearly better in this area.

[BMiller52]

^^^^ seriously. Young Rasheed was a superstar.

No actually he wasn't: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ara01.html

JT actually had better rookie numbers at about the same age, to the tune of about 2 more PPG and 3 more RPG. You're just making young Sheed out to be a superstar so Thompson will pale in the comparison.

[SacKingZZZ]

Jason didn't really have much of a post game coming into the league like Spencer--like others said, this can be blamed a lot on his status as a late bloomer (since most perimeter players obviously don't develop a post game). But he has shown great foot speed for his size, and seems to be developing some hints of a post game as well. I would also say they are close to the same from mid-range (although Spencer obviously has more range). Jason is the clearly more efficient scorer right now, and that's more of a knock on Spencer than anything. Again, Spencer has a lot of room to grow here, but that's something he really needs to work on. Right now, Jason is clearly better in this area.

Not just more range, Spencer has the unique ability to shoot from just about anywhere on the floor. Not even a lot of guards can do that. Jason really looks to be more of a spot up shooter a la Brad Miller.

[murray]

^^^^ seriously. Young Rasheed was a superstar.

No actually he wasn't: http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... ara01.html

JT actually had better rookie numbers at about the same age, to the tune of about 2 more PPG and 3 more RPG. You're just making young Sheed out to be a superstar so Thompson will pale in the comparison.

Sheed has never been a big scorer or rebounder. Thats not the game he plays. He is a well rounded player capable of outside, inside, and defense.

[murray]

Jason didn't really have much of a post game coming into the league like Spencer--like others said, this can be blamed a lot on his status as a late bloomer (since most perimeter players obviously don't develop a post game). But he has shown great foot speed for his size, and seems to be developing some hints of a post game as well. I would also say they are close to the same from mid-range (although Spencer obviously has more range). Jason is the clearly more efficient scorer right now, and that's more of a knock on Spencer than anything. Again, Spencer has a lot of room to grow here, but that's something he really needs to work on. Right now, Jason is clearly better in this area.

Not just more range, Spencer has the unique ability to shoot from just about anywhere on the floor. Not even a lot of guards can do that. Jason really looks to be more of a spot up shooter a la Brad Miller.

Spencer could go down as one of, if not the greatest shooting Center of all time. I mean you have Okur, Big Z, Sabonis, and a few others, but he could become the greatest shooter of all of them.

[pillwenney]

Not just more range, Spencer has the unique ability to shoot from just about anywhere on the floor. Not even a lot of guards can do that. Jason really looks to be more of a spot up shooter a la Brad Miller.

True, but he's also pretty inconsistent right now, and that is probably partly to blame.

Sheed has never been a big scorer or rebounder. Thats not the game he plays. He is a well rounded player capable of outside, inside, and defense.

So...in other words, not a superstar at all.

[BMiller52]

Not just more range, Spencer has the unique ability to shoot from just about anywhere on the floor. Not even a lot of guards can do that. Jason really looks to be more of a spot up shooter a la Brad Miller.

True, but he's also pretty inconsistent right now, and that is probably partly to blame.

Sheed has never been a big scorer or rebounder. Thats not the game he plays. He is a well rounded player capable of outside, inside, and defense.

So...in other words, not a superstar at all.

THANK YOU. That is my whole freakin point. Yea he's not a superstar, but he turned out to be a damn important player on a title team. So that's why I made the comparison to JT. But I think JT has a better chance to be a 20/10 C. Like what Sheed was supposed to be. And if murray says JT's J sucks again that is flat out wrong. He has nice range out to 18 feet.