Mark Cuban is completely classless, K-Mart's mom harrassed

[RRFB]

I guarantee Mark Cuban **** his pants at least a little bit right there.

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Not to confirm or deny anything that Martin might have said, but Cuban did those high fives a little limp wristed.

[TXSun]

this thing has gotten out of hand. and then racial slurs made to LaLa? and then beefed up security for the Den bench? wtf are you running over there Cuban? a disgrace to the game.

[JES12]

this thing has gotten out of hand. and then racial slurs made to LaLa? and then beefed up security for the Den bench? wtf are you running over there Cuban? a disgrace to the game.

According to several accounts, there was no racial slurs and LaLa is making things up trying to get attention.

On the radio, they say LaLa started it by splashing Big Red at the people behind her. The lady she had the argument with said her body guard started it before the soda incident.

But whatever, history is marked by whoever's story gets told and LaLa has the bigger mouth.


http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives ... yguar.html

Peggy, a season-ticket holder who sat in the row behind Carmelo Anthony's love LaLa Vazquez and Kenyon Martin's mother last night, put the blame for the bad scene during Game 4 squarely on Melo's fiancee and her bodyguard.

The hostility started, according to Peggy, when the bodyguard turned around and loudly and crudely insulted her.

"Everybody started defending me," she said, "and it just got really nasty."

Peggy (who asked that her last name not be used) strongly denied that any Mavs fans used racial slurs or threatened Vazquez, a VH1/MTV personality. She said the only time any Mavs fan touched Vazquez was when a girl in Peggy's group accidentally brushed against her while reaching for a purse underneath her seat.

"Don't you ever (beep) touch me again!" Vazquez responded, according to Peggy, who added that Vazquez also flicked soda on them at that point.

"If that would have been any other fan, they would have been tossed out long before that girl was," Peggy said. "That little girl needed attention. Apparently, she's a has-been whatever."

Peggy said nobody harassed Lydia Moore, Kenyon Martin's mother. Peggy, who went to Game 2 in Denver and had pleasant conversations with K-Mart's mom during Game 3, said Moore and the man seated next to her seemed to be enjoying the attention early in the game and didn't do anything to cause trouble.

But it bothered Peggy that MFFLs are being portrayed as racist hooligans while Vazquez is playing the victim.

"Dallas fans are getting a bad rap for this," Peggy said. "I think they're pulling the race card, and there's nothing to it. It's ridiculous, because it's not at all what they're saying.

"Those people just wanted attention."

[MelosMileHigh]

That is one account. On a blog. Without a full name used. Forgive me if I am skeptical. Lala has been going to games for years. She has courtside seats for the Nuggets. Goes to away games ALL the time. Never had a problem. But she was held responsible in a blog, so she must be guitly. Face it, your owner and your fans acted like children- they didnt step over the line, they pissed on it.

[almost famous]

Racist remarks to a toddler... How low can Dallas go? Seriously.

[JES12]

That is one account. On a blog. Without a full name used. Forgive me if I am skeptical. Lala has been going to games for years. She has courtside seats for the Nuggets. Goes to away games ALL the time. Never had a problem. But she was held responsible in a blog, so she must be guitly. Face it, your owner and your fans acted like children- they didnt step over the line, they pissed on it.

The Mavs blog is actually part of the Dallas Morning News and Tim MacMahon is an actual reporter. It is not a blog of random people saying what thiey think until after the report. But that''s not the point. The point is, there are two sides and only LaLa's is being heard.

Yes, Cuban acted like a punk. But so did K-mart, Melo and Melo's girlfriend.

[raptorsam]

Cuban whole act makes it seem ok for dallas fans to act like idiots. I cant wait for the nuggets to roll the mavs next game

[almost famous]

I don't understand how Melo's girlfriend did anything wrong... She was a victim to verbal abuse that was so out of hand that she was forced to leave the game. As stated earlier, she's never had issues in her many games that she's attended, yet once Cuban attacks the Nuggets players' families, suddenly there is a problem. And the fact that all your witnesses that say she escalated the argument happen to be the Mavs fans that she's accusing to be drunken idiots (my words or course), doesn't make for a strong case. I'd also like to mention that there were TWO incidents. This one, and the incident with Kenyon's mother. It's not hard to see how the same morons attacking a player's mom, simply for being that player's mom, would be the same morons attacking a player's son and girlfriend. I'm not claiming all Mavs fans to be like this, but this crowed is clearly more hostile than most. NOT THAT DENVER FANS CAN'T BE HOSTILE. A wise move for Cuban to find something else to do other than attend game 5.

As for Melo, call him a punk if you want. Everyone does. Just like everyone says Josh Howard is. True or not, we fans know his true character. What you think means little to us.

K-Mart had every right to be upset. Given his words and the way he handled it were out of line, but he was justified none the less. People who know Kenyon know he speaks his mind and has R-rated language. That's part of the reason why I love the guy. You may call it being a "fake thug", but I call it toughness. Make of it as you will.

Cuban is the sole instigator through all of this. There is no excuse for his behavior. NONE. He's not a player, he's an observer. He is a tyrant, and he needs to be dealt with by the league office. He's contributing to hostility that could end up to something like the Palace brawl. He needs to be suspended from going to Mavs games until her realizes that he is merely a financial provider to the team, and stop trying to bully everyone. I will never understand how he can push an innocent camera man, who wasn't even in his way, yell at the refs, yell at the Nuggets players, and then go to someone's mom and claim that HER son is the thug. A thug is a bully. Tell me, who is really the bully in this equation? I have no doubt that the man is a genius in finances, but he needs to look at himself in the mirror.

[JES12]

I don't understand how Melo's girlfriend did anything wrong...

throwing soda, unprovoked yelling and arguing? Whatever dude

She was a victim to verbal abuse that was so out of hand that she was forced to leave the game.

I don't believe she was the victom for one second. She was the instigator.

As stated earlier, she's never had issues in her many games that she's attended, yet once Cuban attacks the Nuggets players' families, suddenly there is a problem.

First of all, Cuban did not attack anyone. Secondly, those season ticket holder never had any problems either. It's much easier to believe she was the antagonist than fans who have no personal involvment with the players who want to get back at Cuban by causing a bigger commotion.

And the fact that all your witnesses that say she escalated the argument happen to be the Mavs fans that she's accusing to be drunken idiots (my words or course), doesn't make for a strong case.

And was she not drunk? How do you know the Dallas lady was? And like I said, there are 2 sides to every story and whoever has the media's attention is the story that is believed.

I'd also like to mention that there were TWO incidents. This one, and the incident with Kenyon's mother. It's not hard to see how the same morons attacking a player's mom, simply for being that player's mom, would be the same morons attacking a player's son and girlfriend.

I dont know what happened with Kenyon's mother (in game 4). What are you talking about? And it is also easy to belief those fans that were the victom of LaLa's abuse could be grouped into the same people from those that are ignorant in the situation.

I'm not claiming all Mavs fans to be like this, but this crowed is clearly more hostile than most. NOT THAT DENVER FANS CAN'T BE HOSTILE. A wise move for Cuban to find something else to do other than attend game 5.

Maverick fans have never been known to be hostile. Especially those upper class individuals in that section. Agree with your statement on Cuban.

As for Melo, call him a punk if you want. Everyone does. Just like everyone says Josh Howard is. True or not, we fans know his true character. What you think means little to us.

Perfectly understand. Same reason I don't care what you think of Cuban.

K-Mart had every right to be upset. Given his words and the way he handled it were out of line, but he was justified none the less.

Yes he had a right to be upset (after gane 3), and no, 2 wrongs don't justify anything.

People who know Kenyon know he speaks his mind and has R-rated language. That's part of the reason why I love the guy.

That says more about you.

You may call it being a "fake thug", but I call it toughness. Make of it as you will.

I never called him a fake thug.

Cuban is the sole instigator through all of this.

Okay, now you are saying this is all just one big incident? Sorry, disagree. I do agree is an instigater provoked by Bennet Salvador rigging game 3, but to call him the sole instigator is a stretch.

There is no excuse for his behavior. NONE. He's not a player, he's an observer.

I agree.

He is a tyrant, and he needs to be dealt with by the league office.

I agree the should be delt with for his statement to Kenyon's mom.

He's contributing to hostility that could end up to something like the Palace brawl.

That's a stretch.

He needs to be suspended from going to Mavs games until her realizes that he is merely a financial provider to the team, and stop trying to bully everyone.

He owns the team and half the building. He can't really be suspended; it would have to be a legal restraining order.

I will never understand how he can push an innocent camera man, who wasn't even in his way, yell at the refs, yell at the Nuggets players, and then go to someone's mom and claim that HER son is the thug. A thug is a bully. Tell me, who is really the bully in this equation?

I agree it is totally uncalled for, but anyone, even criminals, have the right not to be video taped.

I have no doubt that the man is a genius in finances, but he needs to look at himself in the mirror.

Agree.

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All though a Dallas fan could easily recount everything that happened post-slur, I'm sure it's very easy to begin the story conveniently AFTER that point in the story.

Some details are being left out I'm sure, and frankly I don't give a damn. Dallas is done.

Next time Dallas gets a chance in the playoffs, I would recommend start with the owner and don't create that doubt that you have classy outstanding fans from the get go. Cuban's actions in game 3 went a long way in painting a picture.

The fan experience in Dallas was not good, the owner did not set a good example, that game 3 and 4 were an epic fail.

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I don't see K-Mart or his Mom being high class anyway.

[J Smitty]

That's quite an ignorant statement, considering you don't know either of them.


There is nothing more classless than assaulting an old lady though, so it isn't too hard to have more class than Cuban.

[pistonsnuggets]

I don't see K-Mart or his Mom being high class anyway.

And you know this because....... he has so many tatoos?
thats kinda ridiculous

[pickaxe]

I don't see K-Mart or his Mom being high class anyway.

Let's look at one example. Kidd lands hard on the floor. An instant later, Kenyon is right there to check on him. Most falls....who cares.....but this is a particularly hard fall. The fact Kenyon shows concern is a sign of class. You don't have to have a silver spoon in your mouth when you were born to have class. High class I guess you could also call hardcore class or old school....and that's something you get from watching other high class characters and emulating them.

Enter Chauncey.