Sign and Trade Marvin for Captain Jack

[Hawk4Playoffs]

Marvin Williams and Acie Law for Stephen Jackson... I don't know how realistic this trade is...

Golden State has Corey Maggette, Anthony Randolph, Brandon Wright and Kelenna Azubuike to play at SF... they can get rid of Captain Jack... Marvin seems bigger than Captain Jack and can also play the power forward position if he bulked up a little bit this off season. This trade would obviously make the Hawks better by adding a scorer and a veteran.

I don't think Golden State would be willing to do this trade but it seems like they have too many players for the same position... adding Marvin may give them someone a little bigger that can shoot the three, rebound and defend.

I would love to have Captain Jack back on this team. What do you guys think?

[JoshB914]

It didn't work too well last time.

[Hawk4Playoffs]

It didn't work too well last time.

Thats because he played with an awful team... having JJ, Horford, Smith and hopefully Bibby or a good point guard would be better.

The team we had in 03-04 was terrible...

[killbuckner]

I wouldn't take Jackson's contract for free

[Hawk4Playoffs]

I wouldn't take Jackson's contract for free

why?

[shortstuff5023]

i don't want him...not at all. he's a locker room cancer, a bad attitude, not to mention a straight up idiot. no thanks.

[Hawk4Playoffs]

i don't want him...not at all. he's a locker room cancer, a bad attitude, not to mention a straight up idiot. no thanks.

this is from wikipedia....

Mainstream media outlets generally portray Jackson in a negative way, highlighting the fact that, in the past five years, he has been charged with felony criminal recklessness and a number of other misdemeanors, including assault, disorderly conduct, and two counts of battery.[24]

Some sources identify Jackson in a more positive manner. Former teammate Tim Duncan once labeled Jackson as the "ultimate teammate" during his days in San Antonio. ESPN analyst and sportswriter Michael Smith finds Jackson to be "articulate, charming, and thoughtful."[25] Lang Whitaker, executive editor of Slam Magazine, states Jackson is "one of my favorite players, after all."[26]

Marcus Thompson of the Contra Costa Times conveys his opinion as such: "He takes the younger players under his wing, taking them shopping, dispensing advice, lending an ear. What's more, he does the little things that are unbecoming of a millionaire thug. He looks people in the eye when they talk to him, as if he cares about what they're saying. He frequently doles out handshakes, half-hugs and, to women, pecks on the cheek. He returns phone calls. He mends fences, lifts spirits, makes others feel special."[27] Gwen Knapp, of the San Francisco Chronicle states "He couldn't have been more charming or more engaged, the perfect face of the franchise."[28]

Former coach Rick Carlisle and current coach Don Nelson have constantly referred to Jackson's high character. On the Jim Rome show, Nelson stated Jackson is not simply a good person in the limited world of the NBA, but one of the finest people he has ever known.[29] Pacers executive Donnie Walsh, who was principally responsible for the Golden State trade, stated "I love Jack to death. He's emotional and he's going to get technicals. But that's just part of the package. He's a great team guy."[30]

During his 7-game suspension to begin the 2007–08 NBA season, Jackson decided to donate a significant portion of his time towards community service in the Oakland area, in order to make a positive impact while giving the public a chance to meet him. He organized several events, geared mainly towards children.[31] Additionally, during a game against the Toronto Raptors, Jackson paid tribute to forward Matt Barnes and his ailing mother whom he had left to support in her battle against cancer, by wearing the number 22 on his headband. Jackson also offered to miss his return from suspension if Barnes needed the support at home.[32] Jackson is also known to attend Bible study with other Warriors such as Kelenna Azubuike, former Warrior Al Harrington, and Brandan Wright.[33] Pairing up with Southwest Airlines, Jackson and the Warriors organization arranged an essay contest for elementary school students from his hometown of Port Arthur, which gave 10 third-graders the opportunity to meet Jackson and receive tickets to the following night's game.[34]

The NBA recognized Jackson for his ongoing charitable causes and presented him with the league's Community Assist Award for March 2008. During the month of March alone, he participated in a Silence the Violence rally, teamed up with Grammy Award-winner John Legend to raise funds for the Show Me Campaign, participated in a groundbreaking for a basketball court, and launched his own foundation.[35]

In conjunction with the Good Tidings Foundation, Jackson unveiled the Stephen Jackson Basketball Court at Omega Boys Club in San Francisco on April 11, 2008. Additionally, in honor of Jackson's continued commitment to the Bay Area community, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom proclaimed Saturday, April 12, 2008 – the day after the unveiling – as Stephen Jackson Day in San Francisco.[36]

[HMFFL]

Stephen Jackson has reached his potiential, so you know what type of player your going to get, and there is very little room for improvement. Not only do we get older, but we also acquire a less defensive minded player, and I think it's horrible for our future.

[dms269]

Makes no sense. It isn't like we are 1 player away from a title contender.

[shortstuff5023]

maybe i was wrong, and he was portrayed poorly by the media...

but he plays basketball like an idiot.

[raleigh]

Lateral move.

IOW, what uga_dawgs said.

[evildallas]

I've always heard good things about Jackson from teammates, but he's had plenty of off-court issues. He would bring some toughness and willingness to take the big shot to the team and I believe his defense is better than the system would lead you to believe. The problem is he signed a horribly expensive extension last year (4 yrs/35 M). That's a long commitment to a 31 year old SG/SF with a history of getting into trouble and who season ended with surgery. If you're taking on a bad contract like that the most you should be giving up is an expiring deal like Speedy and Acie. You don't give up a developing young player like Marvin. In fact if I was to take on such a bad contract I'd want a young stud thrown in like the pork chop you tie around an ugly kid's neck so the dog will play with him.

[killbuckner]

Stephen Jackson is 31 years old and has 4 guaranteed years left on his contract. He had a good year this year but really isn't anythign special and isn't worth the baggage he brings to the table. The odds of him being worth 10 million dollars in 2012 are ridiculously small. He is just a bad contract- I wouldn't take him for free. I'd rather let Marvin walk and use caproom to sign someone else.

[Hawk4Playoffs]

I see... thanks evil.

[KM44]

Greene, Nocioni and #23 for S&T Marvin.

[raleigh]

Greene, Nocioni and #23 for S&T Marvin.

How many times do we have to tell Kings' fans that this is not a good move?

A four-year deal above the MLE for a decent, but not great 30 y.o. SF is not a good investment. I'd rather give Marvin $36M over those same four years.

[lunarblues]

at this point you might be able to get one of golden states SG/SF in a salary dump with speedy's expiring as the main piece. i doubt it would take marvin to get it done.

[parson]

Greene, Nocioni and #23 for S&T Marvin.

Y'all made a huge mistake trading for Nocioni and should only have done it if you were committed to keeping him.

You'd have to give up some good assets in order to move Nocioni, especially for Marvin Williams, such as Thompson and Hawes.