T-Mac Still In Equation' With Rockets

[stunta21]

this is great news....

Daryl Morey said doctors are hopeful Tracy McGrady could be practicing by November, though he doesn't expect it. He does expect to have a better guess by early July.

“Based on what the doctors are telling us, he has a good shot to help us next year,” Morey said. “He’s in the equation.”

i hope he is ready to practice in november. all u t-mac bashers can go to hell. i've been watching mac since his mt. zion days and i know he still can ball. he turns 30 on the 24th and he's in a contract year, so better believe he's gonna play. i think if we can get 20+pts and at least 4reb and about 5ast from him and yao plays awesome along with artest (who will be back) and our role players execute then we can go real deep into the postseason. i forsee t-mac signing a 3 to 4 year deal with houston. he says he wants tio retire as a rocket. that's wassup. i got faith in our rockets next season. we just need a bigman to back up yao. i would love to get tony battie or find a jewel in the draft, also develop joey dorsey. on behalf of all rockets fans ... " we need u t-mac!!!!!

[dunleavyjr]

Bob Sura says hi

[Jaykoolzboy]

well he's still a capable 18/4/4 guy if everything is right for him.

[ShaY]

I am very skeptical about T-Mac for next season.

The past showed me about the microfracture that even when they heal it takes another season until they have confidence in that knee again , until they build strength in the knee , and they always have setbacks like random knee sorness , swelling and stuff.

I believe T-Mac will actually recover from this surgery only in 2010-11.

Best case scenario for me would be that he will indeed be ready to practice in training camp , and we continue to give him his time until the trade deadline so he can work on all the things I mentioned earlier this post.

[Baller 24]

Reports say he's coming back at the end of December or January, he's ahead of schedule on his workouts, AND he's training with Jordan's trainer. I think he's a capable 18/6/4 player, like I said, it's his play-making that would be the biggest attribute.

[moofs]

Hey hey moofs has a trade idea!

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=906033&start=15#p19538641

[BaYBaller]

HOU is a tight bind with the T-Mac situation. If forced to come back early to try and show others what he's still got (to open up room for a deadline deal) it may set back his recovery and hurt us if we do end up keeping him. On the flipside if T-Mac takes his time and comes back as healthy as possible closer the playoffs we lose out on that option to swing a deal (unless the team wants T-Mac strictly for his expiring w/ no guarantees on his ability to play).

My predication? T-Mac isn't ready before the trading deadline and Morey can't swing a deal, then attempts to come back around March only to find he can no longer play any defense ala Chris Webber, and Adelman sits him for the remainder of the season. T-Mac then retires or signs a signficantly smaller contract.

[moofs]

Bay, interested in your take on that thread, other than the obvious "salaries that big don't change very often". Just an if there's any inherent/major flaws kind of thing.

Also I just got Deja Vu.

[dunleavyjr]

Baller 24,

Don't you worry. By the time Tmac reaches Grant Hill's age, he'll be ready to come back.
Have some patience everybody. The Rockets can wait, so can the league.

[Guy986]

What's morey supposed to say? NO he's done. Stick a fork in him?

[MaxRider]

As long as he's under contract with the team he is in the equation

Rockets minus Tracy McGrady is still consider an equation

[jzmagik]

"In 35 games with T-Mac this season, the Rockets shot 43.8% from the field and 35.9% from three while opponents scored 95 points on 45.3% from the field (Battier was out for half of these games, but the Rockets were actually worse defensively when both played). They were 20-15 (.571).

In the 30 games after T-Mac went down in early February, the Rockets shot 46.9% from the field and 38.1% from three, holding opponents to 92 points on 43.0% from the field. They were 22-8 (.733).

That doesn't strike me as a fluke. It's safe to say they got drastically better on both ends of the court.

Dating back to the end of the 22-game win streak last year, McGrady has shot 38.2% from the field and 29.9% from three... and that's on over 17 shots a game, which represented almost a quarter of the Rockets shot attempts in those games. You could chalk this up to injuries, but McGrady's best ever Rockets season was 43.1% and 33% from three -- again, numbers that are significantly lower than the team averages. "


This was taken from CF, a guy who did the numbers research. Tmac was never a truly efficient scorer with us, and coming back from microfracture surgery could have a terrible effect on his scoring efficiency. He's also been a huge liability on the defensive end. His primary asset will be his playmaking for teammates, but does this pro outweigh his liabilities?

If we can't get a deal done with Artest, and if Tmac shows he isn't capable of returning to a respectable form, we're going to need to swing a deal for a capable wing.

[MaxRider]

the numbers don't mean anything since that was not a healthy T-Mac
if T-Mac committed to play team basketball like the rest of the team we will be good

[astrallite]

It's VERY hard to be a good offensive team when the guy who wants to hold the ball all day shoots 40% or under.

Ron Artest has far higher value on this team. Unlike McGrady, when he doesn't have the ball, he can play the post-repost game with Yao and shoots 40% from the 3 when they double. McGrady shoots 29% (and I'm NOT talking about THIS YEAR). In other words, if he isn't driving and chucking, he's a total liability in the half court.

Does his 5-6 assists really cover the fact that he takes 20-25 shots a game? Let's be frank here, at least they play play Artest out the 3 point line, Utah didn't even bother in last year's Playoffs and gave him a cushion and let him brick open 3s all day.

He's in the same league as Iverson, Stackhouse, Stephon Marbury. You guys make it seem like injuries have devastated his career. Like the guys listed above, his "prime" was jacking up 25 shots and shooting a poor percentage for the better part of a decade. After a while, you can't really use the "teammates sucked" excuse to explain a player's offensive inefficiency when your entire team roster has changed several times.

[moofs]

Don't say that about Jamal Crawford!
Erm, oops.
I mean, yeah agreed.

[King Roosk]

the numbers don't mean anything since that was not a healthy T-Mac
if T-Mac committed to play team basketball like the rest of the team we will be good

Bingo, and that's really where the argument should end. If T-Mac is healthy and if he actually gives a sh*t about making this team better, then we'll be scary good (assuming we bring back our other integral pieces)...but I'd say that's a decently big IF.

[ShaY]

the numbers don't mean anything since that was not a healthy T-Mac
if T-Mac committed to play team basketball like the rest of the team we will be good

Bingo, and that's really where the argument should end. If T-Mac is healthy and if he actually gives a sh*t about making this team better, then we'll be scary good (assuming we bring back our other integral pieces)...but I'd say that's a decently big IF.

T-Mac is not a selfish guy , he is just mentally weak , and the fact that his knee condition was more severe than he though just killed him mentally.

The fact that he has suffered injuries his whole career didn't help either.

You need to fail and have some bad luck and it can make you stronger , but in T-Mac's career the injuries and the lack of succes have really worn him out imo.

I believe that sitting out for so long he will be in it mentally next year , I hope his body coaperates(sp?).

[BaYBaller]

the numbers don't mean anything since that was not a healthy T-Mac
if T-Mac committed to play team basketball like the rest of the team we will be good

Bingo, and that's really where the argument should end. If T-Mac is healthy and if he actually gives a sh*t about making this team better, then we'll be scary good (assuming we bring back our other integral pieces)...but I'd say that's a decently big IF.

T-Mac is not a selfish guy , he is just mentally weak , and the fact that his knee condition was more severe than he though just killed him mentally.

The fact that he has suffered injuries his whole career didn't help either.

You need to fail and have some bad luck and it can make you stronger , but in T-Mac's career the injuries and the lack of succes have really worn him out imo.

I believe that sitting out for so long he will be in it mentally next year , I hope his body coaperates(sp?).

One thing that I want to point out and needs to be said... T-Mac probably could have played through his knee problems this year. What I mean by that is he probably could have shut it down, worked it out, and come back for the home stretch. I guarantee you that this next season being his contract year was a major, if not the sole, reason he opted to have surgery early. If he waited until the offseason he likely would not have recovered to enough of a degree to play this coming season at all.

Not that that makes him a bad guy, the guy wants to make his money and there's nothing wrong with that, but it sure sucks for the fans.

[HTown_TMac]

I am glad T-Mac has gotten the surgery. He sees how good the team is... His mentality will be there as said earlier. So.. Him thinking the microfracture helped him to sit out and realize that he actually enjoys playing and wants to win.

[TMACFORMVP]

Bingo, and that's really where the argument should end. If T-Mac is healthy and if he actually gives a sh*t about making this team better, then we'll be scary good (assuming we bring back our other integral pieces)...but I'd say that's a decently big IF.

Yeah, agreed.