Silly Season Starts-Rox after Nash?

[tisbee]

For the next few months the rumors will fly,some really out there.
In that vein,ESPN has Houston one of 5 teams interested in Nash.
I'm interested in Jessica Alba,but it ain't gonna happen either

[Aaron Brooks]

but that would be the end of me... noooooooooo

[YoungMoney23]

Nash isn't what we need, Although this could help benefit brooks in terms of development Nash is a weak defender and on the decline.

[Daonly]

Fair Weather Fans section 422 N my two cents

Postby Daonly on Sat May 09, 2009 8:23 pm
They came out in droves last night.. they didnt care about the Rockets other than keep getting up for Beers and being scene.. I had to get up 20 times during the game to let people get out.. You are at a timeout.. Then you wanna get up when the game starts to get a beer.. You do what you wanna do, but

I had alot in my section who normally didnt come to rockets games.. One Laker Fan acting an ass and Rockets fans jump on his case about rooting on his team. Aaron Brooks not the answer at starting point...
Wafer needs to go... Artest need to go in a sign and trade.. He turn the ball over too many times... Yao is not a Franchise I'm sorry..

He's one of the best at his position.. that's it. Not saying alot compared to the greats of the 80's,90's.We need to go after Steve Nash.. for Tmac expiring.. for at least the next 2-3 years, then go after a true scorer like the bulls Gordan.. Battier needs to come off the bench.. We need to buy a top 15 pick..

[HTown_TMac]

but that would be the end of me... noooooooooo

Ok well.. I lol'd

[Teckon]

I believe Nash's contract also expired at end of 2009-10 season like Tmac. Nash's salary for 2009-10 season is $13,125,000. One of the way to trade for Nash would be to use Tmac's contract as some form of package OR maybe sign and trade Artest + brooks. The Suns will need a PG to run their game and they may like Brooks given his high exposure in the playoff.

Portland do seem to have the best chance to trade with the number of assets they can throw in to offer to the Suns. Nash + the young blazers may be a force to be reckon with.

[Teckon]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/s ... ter-090518

Beside Nash, Kidd is also be pursued by some teams. Portland is really looking to upgrade their PG and Kidd is another target they are considering. Kidd is a free agent this summer.

QUESTION to rocket fans: Between Kidd and Nash, who would you refer if rockets can get one of them?

[MaxRider]

Let's trade T-Mac and Artest to Phoenix for Nash and Shaq

We got a real point guard and a backup center
With Shaq being backup we can play Yao less minute

C - Yao, Shaq
PF - Scola, Landry, Hayes, Dorsey
SF - Battier
SG - Brooks, Wafer, Barry
PG - Nash, Lowry

[PocketRockets]

Let's trade T-Mac and Artest to Phoenix for Nash and Shaq

We got a real point guard and a backup center
With Shaq being backup we can play Yao less minute

C - Yao, Shaq
PF - Scola, Landry, Hayes, Dorsey
SF - Battier
SG - Brooks, Wafer, Barry
PG - Nash, Lowry

Not bad.....

Or Nash and Richardson....and hope to pick up a young big man. Shaq's contract is the only thing scaring me, but I would like shaq and nash....Although with that team, Nash's ability is somewhat negated w/o great offensive players. BUT I'm sure if we put him with Wafer and Landry...both of them would be putting up a little bit less than Amare's numbers. Oh man, imagine the Landry dunks we'd get to see....

[YoungMoney23]

Personally I'd rather Amare than Shaq since I doubt Shaq will be happy being a back up center and Amare has more basketball left in him than Shaq. Still Amare may bolt after next season if we were to acquire him.

[HTown_TMac]

If they had a choice to trade Amare or Shaq. Do you think they would trade Amare?

[moofs]

It's seemed like Phx is sick of Amare for the past 3 years, yet he keeps on staying on. Go figure. We also don't need a PF, especially a cancerous one that can't play defense. Didn't we go over this last year?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&page=Chatter-090518

Beside Nash, Kidd is also be pursued by some teams. Portland is really looking to upgrade their PG and Kidd is another target they are considering. Kidd is a free agent this summer.

QUESTION to rocket fans: Between Kidd and Nash, who would you refer if rockets can get one of them?

None.
Geez. We're at the luxury tax AS IS! Good luck pushing that one.

[Baller 24]

I'd love Nash, he'd be the perfect fit on this team.

[MaxRider]

if i have to choose between Nash and Kidd
it would be Kidd
Nash is still under his 10+ millions contract
Kidd is a FA and will not demand lots of money
he can guard SG
so he can play along side with Brooks
maybe Kidd can tell Brooks not to jump into the air before passing

[glydersid]

would love to see nash in rockets uniform. just fix his defense and he's good to go. imagine all the easy shots yaos gonna get

[moofs]

if i have to choose between Nash and Kidd
it would be Kidd
Nash is still under his 10+ millions contract
Kidd is a FA and will not demand lots of money
he can guard SG
so he can play along side with Brooks
maybe Kidd can tell Brooks not to jump into the air before passing

Yes, and also rebounding. But Kidd's not going to be cheap either, I'd expect.... at least 7-10m for 2-3 years, with a team option on the last year.

[BaYBaller]

T.J. Ford? One could make the case Brooks is better now than Ford is so why would we want Ford, especially considering they are similar players.

If I had to choose b/w Nash and Kidd I'd probably go after Nash. He's making 13m I think but it'll be another one-year rental to see how it all plays out. Kidd can play SG at spurts but that's not really an issue considering we're loaded with SGs ATM.

But still Nash isn't the greatest of fits, especially on a half-court team with defense as their calling card. Doesn't seem something Morey would do.

[MaxRider]

I'd love Nash, he'd be the perfect fit on this team.

it was so funny
5 years ago when bunches of rumors surrounding T-Mac and Shaq and both saying they would like to play together
i actually suggested doing a 4 team trade
Lakers trade Shaq to Dallas for Dirk
Houston trade Francis+Mobley to Orlando for T-Mac and filler then trade T-Mac to Dallas for Nash
i got a response of that Nash is not a true PG (i was like WTF and i left that forum - that's how i discover realgm)
then Nash won the MVP
i really wish i remember who that was

[DraftBoy10]

I think we are forgetting the most obvious PG out there in Kirk Hinrich. The Bulls are paying him a grand 27 million over the next 3 years, and he's the ideal fit here and unfortunately in Portland. He is very good defender, can get about 15/7 off of 40% 3pt shooting here.

I'd be surprised if Portland did NOT pursue him heavily, he's not the greatest of them of all, but he's exactly what Portland needs. A defensive, 3pt shooting PG with the ability to have the occasional scoring outburst. Next to Roy, he'd be great by having the ability to play off the ball and with the ball in whatever situation they choose, plus he's proven he can guard the perimeter well. A good 16/8 player if they acquire him.

[moofs]

Honestly, you guys are looking at PG, but our weakest area this year was SG/SF (the area we should have been strongest in entering the season)! PG will improve naturally, and on the cheap next year. That leaves the above and a backup C. I won't worry about that, but for SG/SF here's a thought..

Someone that I GUARANTEE no one is looking at, but who might be a good option is KG.
Why? He's already looking bad with the knee injury at 33, he has a LONG contract (3 more years cause Ainge is a dumbface) that doesn't release him until he's 36, and will continue to get worse with 1055 games under his belt. Playing as a primary option in Boston will hurry that, but playing for us in a rotation with Scola and Ming may well help limit BOTH Yao's and KG's injuries by halving their minutes, while preemptively prolonging Scola's career. Boston's already had their championship run, and with KG and Allen on the definitive downhill, they will cut salary after next year for a quick rebuild on the fly around Rondo/Pierce with TMac as an interlude option next year. Not only that, but if they let Mac expire after next year, they'll be looking VERY nice for the 2010 offseason, when Old Man Allen also comes off the books. Both players are injured, and coming off surgery, and thus both teams acquire a good deal of risk, us more than Boston even, but there's definitely some potential there. For instance, we reduce salary for next year by a good bit, potentially putting us under the tax (almost 8 million reduction from McGrady to KG next year in compensation for the extra risk, while Boston loses the risk of his next two years, which are almost 40m in total - so next year we'd gain perhaps as much as 11-13m total after considering luxtax penalties and bonuses). With Yao, Scola, KG, Landry manning the middle, none of them should have to play over 25-30 mpg, which is a MAJOR boon for us.

This would still leave us with an issue at SG, but with Scola/KG / Yao/KG / KG/Scola in the middle, and Landry/Hayes off the bench, we could skimp with a cheaper SG, as our post play would attract a TON of attention. It's possible Artest might even work properly for us under this setup, if he and KG didn't kill each other with aluminum baseball bats in the parking lot after game 28. Raja Bell might fit the bill via S&T or as a 3-team trade piece if his defense hasn't dropped off too badly (I heard mixed reports last year). We could give Artest in that deal, giving the Bobcats a better marketing ploy, Artest a better contract than we're likely to give him, as we don't HAVE to, and us a short-term great 3p shooter who can still cut and run some. Suddenly, we're well under the threshold with budget happy non-chucking SG/SFs who can shoot, pass, and have room to operate. KG has replaced the fiery and slightly psychopathic personality that Artest provided this year. If that's not enough to fix our SG problems, we still have Cook and Barry expiring this year for a total of about 5.7m (+25%, which is now an option since we're under the cap), readily tradeable to a team looking to cut an MLE player to save salary.

...Eureka! If there's no direct solution, come at it from the side. I don't see why Boston shouldn't do this trade in a heartbeat, and I don't see why we wouldn't either - unless KG is not expected to recover from his current injury to any degree, in which case the deal is suddenly poison for us, but I wouldn't expect this to happen.

(Why not a small, tweaky trade like I usually favor? Ans: You're dealing with a 24m contract [McGrady] and expect ANYTHING involved to be small?)

p.s. The Chron article is based only on Solomon's perspective, so I don't care. Ref: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/spo ... 30290.html
p.p.s. Morey has YET to go in the direction that either the fanbase or media initially want or expect.
p.p.p.p.p.p.p.p.s. http://www.wagesofwins.com/Top152009.html - Garnett 2nd, Scola 4th