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Re: Z-Bo on the Block... 

Post#21 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:13 am

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DelaneyRudd wrote:Kaman is the real trade bait for good pieces. No one wants Randolph for anything, and Camby is trade wise pretty worthless.


Actually i think Camby has the most value of all the Clipper bigs. Especially come trade deadline with a 10M expiring + actual skills.

Kaman, eh, I don't think he'll get more than expirings.

Zbo... lol. Don't worry, he'll only be on the bench behind Griffen for, what, 2years before he expires?


Yeah I agree.
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Post#22 » by Det the Threat » Wed May 20, 2009 2:20 am

ClipperDomination wrote:Since the Clipps got the #1 pick, Zach is on the trading block.

Wonder what you'll try to get for him (that is, if any team wants him :) )...

Looking for bench depth and expirings.


I'm sorry ClipperDomination, but no one will take on Randolph, especially with at least half of the league having that "2010 Plan" and with all the baggage he brings.
We'll have to wait till next summer, when he becomes an expiring, if we want to trade him.

Though, Kaman and Camby most likely will now be on the block.
So maybe those one of those rumors/trade requests on our board for Kaman(Detroit? Chicago?) and Camby(San Antonio) will go down.
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Post#23 » by BrooklynBulls » Wed May 20, 2009 2:23 am

Looking high, and looking low, I don't see a single team interested.
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Post#24 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:28 am

The only way would be to move Dunleavy to another teams front office or hope for Isiah II sometime soon in an NBA franchise near you.
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Post#25 » by killbuckner » Wed May 20, 2009 2:29 am

All you need to find is a team that has no desire to sign any FA's in 2010, is trying to tank, and doesn't have a legitimate PF, and also has one of the 10 worst contracts in the league (or 2 of the worst 25)
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Post#26 » by ejftw » Wed May 20, 2009 2:31 am

I could see some teams interested in Z-Bo. Detroit could be a possibility if they strike out on all their power forwards and want a 2-year band-aid, but a team I really see that could be interested are the Bobcats. They have a solid defensive big man in Okafor, but they have no post scoring what so ever. Z-Bo for a combination of: Nazr, Diaw, Bell, Radmanovic could work.
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Post#27 » by Smills91 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:35 am

killbuckner wrote:All you need to find is a team that has no desire to sign any FA's in 2010, is trying to tank, and doesn't have a legitimate PF, and also has one of the 10 worst contracts in the league (or 2 of the worst 25)

Well in that case, Kings offer Udrih, Nocioni for Randolph and an unprotected 2010 Clippers pick(TWO SHOTS AT JOHN WALL next year).
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Post#28 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 20, 2009 2:35 am

It's not a big deal to bring him off the bench a year or a year and a half. Randolph can be moved after 2010 when he's a big expiring. Worst comes to worst, Randolph strains his groin and you sit him out for 4 months while he sits at home eating pizza and laughing while he rolls in his dolla dolla bills
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Post#29 » by deviljets7 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:38 am

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killbuckner wrote:All you need to find is a team that has no desire to sign any FA's in 2010, is trying to tank, and doesn't have a legitimate PF, and also has one of the 10 worst contracts in the league (or 2 of the worst 25)

Well in that case, Kings offer Udrih, Nocioni for Randolph and an unprotected 2010 Clippers pick(TWO SHOTS AT JOHN WALL next year).


As cancerous as Randolph is, he's not so cancerous that the Clippers (or any team) take on $20 million in additional contracts and give up a pick. 8-)
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Post#30 » by pja123 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:40 am

How about this deal...

Clippers get:
Darko Milicic
Marcus Banks

Grizzlies get:
Zach Randolph
Kris Humphries

Raptors get:
Marko Jaric
Brian Skinner

-Clipps open up a starting spot for Griffen and save money.
-Grizzlies improve their talent and scoring up front with Zach without destroying their payroll (Jaric's deal is the same length as Z-Bos).
-Raptors add depth to the 2G position.
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Post#31 » by shagadelic45 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:41 am

he's definitely tradeable, just don't expect anything great in return. people hate on him, and he does have his rough spots, but he produces and is a legit 20/10 inside scoring force, which most teams lack, need, or are looking for.

You don't trade the #1 pick to get rid of him though, he's not anywhere near that bad/untradeable. But, to increase your return, you may look to "sweeten the pot" with Chris Kaman, Al Thorton and/or Eric Gordon, if you expect something "good" (expirings and the such) in return.


options include:

nj (hassell and simmons)
cha (nazr +)
det (kwame, amir)
mem (jaric, buckner, darko
gs (maggs, crawford)
chi (james, thomas)
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Post#32 » by deviljets7 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:43 am

Bentley1225 wrote:If Im the Pistons, I offer Amir Johnson and one of their second rounders

If Im the Nets, I offer Simmons and Jialin


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Post#33 » by ejftw » Wed May 20, 2009 2:43 am

I like Pja's deal, but I'd prefer Jaric to Banks and Darko.

Marko is versatile enough to play the 1,2,3 and has played in Dunleavy's system before, so he knows it
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Post#34 » by rambo_ortega » Wed May 20, 2009 2:46 am

the warriors would love z-bo's game.. he can score and rebound at the pf spot.. perfect for them. zach for crawford and turiaf works
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Post#35 » by pja123 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:47 am

Yeah, Marko/Darko makes sense. I just wasn't sure if the Clipps wanted Jaric back.
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Post#36 » by deviljets7 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:47 am

ejftw wrote:I like Pja's deal, but I'd prefer Jaric to Banks and Darko.

Marko is versatile enough to play the 1,2,3 and has played in Dunleavy's system before, so he knows it


Honestly I think it works better if Toronto isn't involved. Cutting them out would allow Memphis to not have to take Humphries and his deal as well.
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Post#37 » by ejftw » Wed May 20, 2009 2:52 am

I wonder if the Nuggets would do a Randolph/K-Mart type of deal. Both have similar contracts and the Nuggets have no scorers in the low post, which Randolph could be. Nene and Andersen (if the Nuggs keep him around) next to him along with Melo at the three would work well for Z-Bo and give them a third, consistent scorer. I'm sure Billups and everyone else can keep him under control off the court as well
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Post#38 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 20, 2009 2:59 am

rambo_ortega wrote:the warriors would love z-bo's game.. he can score and rebound at the pf spot.. perfect for them. zach for crawford and turiaf works


You know, that's actually a great idea. The Warriors are the one franchise dumb and financially unresponsible enough to do this, with Isiah's era over and the Clippers out of the equation.

This would be my alter considering I think the Warriors value Turiaf and the Clips don't want a SG with Gordon there:
Maggette
Turiaf
Azuibuke

for

Z-Bo
Thornton

The Clips eliminate two of the biggest douches and free up space for Griffin. Baron/Gordon/Maggette/Griffin/Camby + Kaman + Jordan might be solid too. Crazy athletic, maybe be a running team.
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Post#39 » by ejftw » Wed May 20, 2009 3:04 am

I love that deal with the W's.

Baron-Taylor
Gordon-Collins-Fred Jones?
Azuibuke-Maggette
Griffin-Novak
Camby-Kaman-Skinner?
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Post#40 » by VintaGe36 » Wed May 20, 2009 3:05 am

DEN wouldn't touch a Kmart/Z-Bo swap IMO.

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