Direction of the Nets

[amk482]

What is the team's direction? 2010 (I've said it before) is not happening (especially since Brooklyn wont be ready). Getting # 1 didnt happen..What next? Are we really going to to go into next year by just adding #11? Do we target a PF via trade or free agency this summer and kill 2010? This team seems to have no direction.

[S.I.C. GM]

The Direction of the Nets is....

1) Developing Young Players
2) Get a PF Moose
3) In the next two years, Get a SG/SF that will eventually replace VC. Or trade VC for that piece soon.
4) Finish the Brooklyn Arena
5) FIRE FRANK!!!!!!!

[Adam1221]

Quite the opposite my friend we have a great direction we're going the Portland way which is to develop a great team for the future.
We have great players that have great upside at almost every position.

Devin
CDR
Vince
Ryan/Yi
Lopez

Vince's aging, Ryan's limited upside (he showed signs of being a great player going forward but his talent does have a roof) and Yi's general suckiness could be issues but that's where the draft, trades (something Thorn is a master of) and FA can help us.

2010 is just a nice possibility in the puzzle.

[amk482]

Quite the opposite my friend we have a great direction we're going the Portland way which is to develop a great team for the future.
We have great players that have great upside at almost every position.

Devin
CDR
Vince
Ryan/Yi
Lopez

Vince's aging, Ryan's limited upside (he showed signs of being a great player going forward but his talent does have a roof) and Yi's general suckiness could be issues but that's where the draft, trades (something Thorn is a master of) and FA can help us.

2010 is just a nice possibility in the puzzle.

Some very valid points re: the draft and some of the young guys devloping but you mention trades and FA - all of the trade talk and free agency talk ENDS when the B.S. 2010 talk begins. So I say it again, since 2010 is in no way shape or form happening, this team has no direction if 2010 is the ultimate plan. We wont sign anyone of value and wont trade for anyone. So we have expirings, but what are we going to do??? trade expirings for different exprings, since guess what???? we can't take back salary because of B.S. 2010 talk. This is just going to go in a circle.

[deviljets7]

Quite the opposite my friend we have a great direction we're going the Portland way which is to develop a great team for the future.
We have great players that have great upside at almost every position.

Devin
CDR
Vince
Ryan/Yi
Lopez

Vince's aging, Ryan's limited upside (he showed signs of being a great player going forward but his talent does have a roof) and Yi's general suckiness could be issues but that's where the draft, trades (something Thorn is a master of) and FA can help us.

2010 is just a nice possibility in the puzzle.

Some very valid points re: the draft and some of the young guys devloping but you mention trades and FA - all of the trade talk and free agency talk ENDS when the B.S. 2010 talk begins. So I say it again, since 2010 is in no way shape or form happening, this team has no direction if 2010 is the ultimate plan. We wont sign anyone of value and wont trade for anyone. So we have expirings, but what are we going to do??? trade expirings for different exprings, since guess what???? we can't take back salary because of B.S. 2010 talk. This is just going to go in a circle.

This is why either you trade Vince or you trade expirings for pieces to help now. Considering Vince's age compared to the rest of the "core" and the general standings of the team, I'd go with trading Vince.

2010 may be a pipe dream, but by far the 2 most likely ways to get a superstar in their prime is either through free agency or to get lucky in the lottery. Right now the Nets don't have the cap room to sign such a free agent in 2010, nor are they bad enough to have a realistic chance at a top 3 pick in the draft.

[amk482]

right, so we are a 34 win team with the upside of 38 wins and have zero direction.

[ib4]

not that they are in a rush to trade VC, but he has a no-trade clause in his contract, but if the nets suck and VC wants to win, it shouldnt be an issue i guess

and did we extend Harris yet?

[aussienet]

right, so we are a 34 win team with the upside of 38 wins and have zero direction.

Man I think you need to chill a little. The worst thing we can do is make a move for the sake of making a move. If you seriosly think with the improvement and experience that Lopez, Harris CDR Anderson and dare I say it Yi will learn over that next twelve months is only worth four count em four extra wins then you got rocks in your head. The roster that we have right this second will improve by ten wins next year minimum! Book it! So that's a team with 44 wins 38 losses a first round play-off exit and three first rounders to throw in the mix. And your saying we lack direction? Get back to being a true Net fan and support your team through the growing pains. Trust in Thorn, believe in ROD!

It will happen.

Cheers

[amk482]

right, so we are a 34 win team with the upside of 38 wins and have zero direction.

Man I think you need to chill a little. The worst thing we can do is make a move for the sake of making a move. If you seriosly think with the improvement and experience that Lopez, Harris CDR Anderson and dare I say it Yi will learn over that next twelve months is only worth four count em four extra wins then you got rocks in your head. The roster that we have right this second will improve by ten wins next year minimum! Book it! So that's a team with 44 wins 38 losses a first round play-off exit and three first rounders to throw in the mix. And your saying we lack direction? Get back to being a true Net fan and support your team through the growing pains. Trust in Thorn, believe in ROD!

It will happen.

Cheers

You have no clue what you are talking about. What you fail to realize is that the Nets are just a ploy in Ratner's mind to get this huge real estate deal done. At the end of the day, Ratner bought the Nets to build the new arena/compound. Winning an NBA championship is secondary to that. If you think anything else, then the joke is on you and your'e the one with rocks in your head. As a Nets fan, you should be hoping for more than 44 wins, especially after suffering for so many years, except for the early JKIDD years. As currently constructed, this team will sit in mediocority and maybe make the playoffs/maybe not. Is that what you want? We were better than expected last year and need to take another step forward, but Ratner wont allow it. We are a legit PF away (along with the improvement of the young guys) from making real noise. Counting on mid to late #1 picks next year to turn this franchise around is absurd. We need to get a Boozer, a West, etc or someone like a Drew Gooden who can catch the ball and dunk (not Yi), box out and rebound (not Yi), score in the paint (not Yi). With a legit PF (not Yi) and the depth we crated via the draft last year, we can be good. Without it, not so much.

[amk482]

not that they are in a rush to trade VC, but he has a no-trade clause in his contract, but if the nets suck and VC wants to win, it shouldnt be an issue i guess

and did we extend Harris yet?

Harris was extended when he was in Dallas, very reasoable deal. didnt know about VC's no trade clause.

[Stone]

Right now were a lower mid rung team who did not make the playoffs this year and hopefully won't make it again next year. We have a few good pieces and a few decent pieces and a bunch of guys who won't be in the league in three to five years.

Our coaching staff is adequate for now. We have hope because we have a guy like Rod who took us from the basement to glory once and has pulled off some great moves. On the other hand and this is just my opinion. We have Kiki who I just don't have any confidance in. And he looks to be our future leader.

The Jersey/Brooklyn thing is another albatross hanging on our shoulders. All of this uncertainty is not helping us.

Whats the anwser to get back to the glory days? There is none or else everybody would be doing it.

Am I upset about any of it? Nope, I've been following the Nets since the original glory days of Dr J, Melconi and Paultz and now is just as cool as then. We still have that underground feel to us and that alone is appealing to me. I just hope where ever we end up we keep the name the Nets.

[S.I.C. GM]

Here is another option.

http://www.star-telegram.com/287/story/1388706.html

Since LAC got blake, everyone wants some of their bigs

If they need a third team, maybe we can try to get some youngs and expiring from this.

Maybe Bass. Maybe the Barea. Try to pry Gordan (I doubt it)

[NetsForce]

not that they are in a rush to trade VC, but he has a no-trade clause in his contract, but if the nets suck and VC wants to win, it shouldnt be an issue i guess

and did we extend Harris yet?

Kobe is the only player in the NBA with a no-trade clause. Other players (not vince) can veto a trade if they sign a one year deal and will have bird rights at the end of the season, or something like that, I'm not sure if those are the exact terms but whatever

[mack69]

My two cents would be to try and add two pieces to firm up the starting rotation. The PF is not on our roster. A defensive minded forward which is not on the roster.

a) 11 Pick - James Johnson I would be ecstatic if Derozan drops as a possibility.
b) Trade for either Milsap, Bass, Boozer or Amare especially if the Suns are thinking of letting Nash Go.
C) trade for defensive forward like Posey or Barnes.
D) Last year for Boone and Swill to figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!

Depending on what is left from the trades the bench is still in good shape with Dooling, Hayes CDR and Anderson.

My problem is that our management doesnt do a good job of addressing needs first. We need better defense and a way to score easier then what we are currently doing.

[amk482]

My two cents would be to try and add two pieces to firm up the starting rotation. The PF is not on our roster. A defensive minded forward which is not on the roster.

a) 11 Pick - James Johnson I would be ecstatic if Derozan drops as a possibility.
b) Trade for either Milsap, Bass, Boozer or Amare especially if the Suns are thinking of letting Nash Go.
C) trade for defensive forward like Posey or Barnes.
D) Last year for Boone and Swill to figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!

Depending on what is left from the trades the bench is still in good shape with Dooling, Hayes CDR and Anderson.

My problem is that our management doesnt do a good job of addressing needs first. We need better defense and a way to score easier then what we are currently doing.

If you are willing to accept Posey, then why dont we go after a package of Posey and West? Poseys contract isnt the greatest but West makes reasonable money so it makes up for it.

[NetsForce]

If the Hornets really wanted to trim salary and were willing to trade West (which they're not), they'd ship him to Memphis plain and simple.

West is not going to be traded to the Nets no matter what...

[amk482]

my point is that I think the only way NO moves West to anyone is if the other team takes back a not so good contract. I thik the odds of Memphis taking back Posey;s contract is less than the Nets.

[mack69]

My two cents would be to try and add two pieces to firm up the starting rotation. The PF is not on our roster. A defensive minded forward which is not on the roster.

a) 11 Pick - James Johnson I would be ecstatic if Derozan drops as a possibility.
b) Trade for either Milsap, Bass, Boozer or Amare especially if the Suns are thinking of letting Nash Go.
C) trade for defensive forward like Posey or Barnes.
D) Last year for Boone and Swill to figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!

Depending on what is left from the trades the bench is still in good shape with Dooling, Hayes CDR and Anderson.

My problem is that our management doesnt do a good job of addressing needs first. We need better defense and a way to score easier then what we are currently doing.

If you are willing to accept Posey, then why dont we go after a package of Posey and West? Poseys contract isnt the greatest but West makes reasonable money so it makes up for it.

Honestly, I dont want West. I dont think he is the right fit for us. He is more finesse and i rather have a power player.

[SteveNets15]

Can James Johnson shoot the ball?If so whats his range?Just wondering cuz i've never seen him play.Or is he all defense,rebounds and dunks which i would'nt mind at all.

[aussienet]

right, so we are a 34 win team with the upside of 38 wins and have zero direction.

Man I think you need to chill a little. The worst thing we can do is make a move for the sake of making a move. If you seriosly think with the improvement and experience that Lopez, Harris CDR Anderson and dare I say it Yi will learn over that next twelve months is only worth four count em four extra wins then you got rocks in your head. The roster that we have right this second will improve by ten wins next year minimum! Book it! So that's a team with 44 wins 38 losses a first round play-off exit and three first rounders to throw in the mix. And your saying we lack direction? Get back to being a true Net fan and support your team through the growing pains. Trust in Thorn, believe in ROD!

It will happen.

Cheers

You have no clue what you are talking about. What you fail to realize is that the Nets are just a ploy in Ratner's mind to get this huge real estate deal done. At the end of the day, Ratner bought the Nets to build the new arena/compound. Winning an NBA championship is secondary to that. If you think anything else, then the joke is on you and your'e the one with rocks in your head. As a Nets fan, you should be hoping for more than 44 wins, especially after suffering for so many years, except for the early JKIDD years. As currently constructed, this team will sit in mediocority and maybe make the playoffs/maybe not. Is that what you want? We were better than expected last year and need to take another step forward, but Ratner wont allow it. We are a legit PF away (along with the improvement of the young guys) from making real noise. Counting on mid to late #1 picks next year to turn this franchise around is absurd. We need to get a Boozer, a West, etc or someone like a Drew Gooden who can catch the ball and dunk (not Yi), box out and rebound (not Yi), score in the paint (not Yi). With a legit PF (not Yi) and the depth we crated via the draft last year, we can be good. Without it, not so much.

You never once said anything about Brooklyn in your original post. You mentioned 2010 which is the free agent buzz year. I think we all know Brooklyn might not get built let alone be ready any time soon. Also we all know what type of owner Ratner is you just gotta look at what he did to this franchise when he let K-mart and Special K go for next to nothing. It was Thorn who was able to turn this franchise around (yes there is some work to do) Your right I don't think alot of our players will take us to the top but it's all about building towards that. Of course i want more than 44 wins but i'm being realistic about next season. And i did say minimum. I agree we need a legit PF to make us better. And i believe Thorn has a plan in place. But Moose or no Moose this team is on the improve and will continue to improve. And as a true FAN that's all you can ask for when you know what sort of ownership your dealing with. Hey we all want a ring but do you really think West/ Boozer will bring one. They will certainly make us better but elite?
I like where this team is going we have waited 30 odd years for a ring what's another couple of years gonna hurt?

Cheers