T-Mac Still In Equation' With Rockets

[tisbee]

Re McGrady:

On Defense he doesn't have to guard the other team's top scorer-that's Battier's job. Very few teams have two high-scoring wings. And for all his miserable defense,the Rockets as a team have been
#4 in 04-05
#6(the yr both he and Yao missed much of season)
#3 in 06-07
#2 last yr
#4 this yr.
Yeah,McGrady's been killing the team on D.

As to offense here are teams FGAs per game,McGrady's FGAs per game and Yao's:
04/5...78.3...21.3...12.2
05/6...76.2...20.9...16.6
06/7...79.6...20.8...17.1
07/8...81.7...19.8...15.5
08/9...79.6...13.9...13.4...Ron Artest w/15.0 FGA's per game.

Notice how McGrady's FGA's per game have steadily declined(and for past 3 yrs have been 1 out of 5 of team's shots-and isn't that what you want out of your highest pd player?)
Note that in 05/6 w/Mcgrady barely playing half season that team FGA's dropped by 2 per game and same this yr compared to last yr w/Adelman.

Astralite,
the 29% was last yr and was the worst since his Toronto days when he didn't shoot the 3. For his career he's .339,which is nothing to brag about. Ron is a career .342 shooter,hardly better. Ron has shot very well the last two yrs,showing he's worked on his shot. Since McGrady started this yr at .376 there's the possibility he'll too improve w/age.
Considering all the stretches the Rockets went thru when they couldn't get Yao the ball,yeah,I'd say those 5-6 assists are just kind of valuable.
If you watched these past Playoffs you should have noticed how completely ineffective Ron was w/out Yao. To cherry pick,in Game 6 last yr against Utah,McGrady scored more in that 1 game than Ron did in all 4 games w/out Yao.
We all agree this yr's complementary pieces are better than previous teams. Eleventh/Twelth man James White had as many baskets against Portland as 6th man Luther Head had against Utah last yr.

[PocketRockets]

You can defend him....you can bash him...the main point is: We've seen what him and Yao have done together. If you're content with that then fine let's keep him, but he's not going to suddenly become mentally stronger, and Yao won't become invincible.

You can't deny that we have a good core around us so in order to not get into the 2nd round and lose every year for the next couple of years, we'll have to mix it up a little bit. Whether it puts us over the top or puts us in the lottery, no one knows, but it's gotta happen. Tmac or Artest has got to go b/c if not, we're gonna be tied down financially and means we might lose Scola or Brooks when extension time comes. =/

[tmac4real]

McGrady may be mentally weak and he may make excuses.

But he sees how good this team is, without him even. That would give him confidence in himself anda the team and make him play abetter.

That's what mentally weak is, sometimes not having confidence, this team's performance in the playoff should fix that..

Also he can't complain about not having help anymore especially when this team without him almost made the WCF finals beating No.1 seed Lakers.

Add those two points to the fact it is a contract year and even Tmac's worst critic should be willing to give him one more chance.

If Tmac is selfish and makes excuses this year is the time to shine. The spotlight is off him now and the team advanced without him, he needs to play at a level where the spotlight is back on him and he gievs us all the imperssion that the team needs him. Since he is selfish he needs that big contract next year so he will play well.

So Tmac HATERS, if you are truly Rocket fans but hate tmac, you better hope to hell he plays.

[stunta21]

i agree, i believe thst he has confidence, now knowing that his team can make to the 2nd round without him. he can build from this experience. hopefully he can come back strong,

[PocketRockets]

So Tmac HATERS, if you are truly Rocket fans but hate tmac, you better hope to hell he plays.

More like...hope he plays well b/c if he doesn't, I'd rather him sit the bench and collect insurance money rather that watch his stock plummet from him playing on a bum knee.

[moofs]

You can defend him....you can bash him...the main point is: We've seen what him and Yao have done together. If you're content with that then fine let's keep him, but he's not going to suddenly become mentally stronger, and Yao won't become invincible.

You can't deny that we have a good core around us so in order to not get into the 2nd round and lose every year for the next couple of years, we'll have to mix it up a little bit. Whether it puts us over the top or puts us in the lottery, no one knows, but it's gotta happen. Tmac or Artest has got to go b/c if not, we're gonna be tied down financially and means we might lose Scola or Brooks when extension time comes. =/

The only bright spot to that is that Scola's 30 when his contract runs out. The down side is that I see him maintaining roughly this level until he's 34-35, 33 is more of a worst case with him, Oakley style. That said, yeah, we gotta clear some dough. I don't want to lose Brooks, but he's also not as critical and won't be able to command the same level of salary as Scola.

[stockmarketgod]

the numbers don't mean anything since that was not a healthy T-Mac
if T-Mac committed to play team basketball like the rest of the team we will be good

I dont think Tmac has ever shot better than 45% and that was in his best year...

Tmac has always been a high volume shooter, with a low FG%

Tmac quit on himself and the team because he couldnt take the pain. the surgery was elective on a non weight bearing part of his knee,

im just wondering if he couldnt take the pain before he got surgery, then I hope there will be no more pain from here on out for the 13 year veteran with lots of mileage, because what makes people think he can take any pain of any kind, in the future...

[stockmarketgod]

McGrady may be mentally weak and he may make excuses.

But he sees how good this team is, without him even. That would give him confidence in himself anda the team and make him play abetter.

That's what mentally weak is, sometimes not having confidence, this team's performance in the playoff should fix that..

Also he can't complain about not having help anymore especially when this team without him almost made the WCF finals beating No.1 seed Lakers.

Add those two points to the fact it is a contract year and even Tmac's worst critic should be willing to give him one more chance.

If Tmac is selfish and makes excuses this year is the time to shine. The spotlight is off him now and the team advanced without him, he needs to play at a level where the spotlight is back on him and he gievs us all the imperssion that the team needs him. Since he is selfish he needs that big contract next year so he will play well.

So Tmac HATERS, if you are truly Rocket fans but hate tmac, you better hope to hell he plays.

I gave him a chance after he screwed my Toronto Raptors team, (the same team that got into the second round after he left)

I gave him a chance even after he gave up and screwed the Orlando team I followed him too.

Im not giving him a chance now after he screwed this team over, blocking any possible trades with his last minute surgery, picking another team to win, while his team was still in the midst of the playoffs, and wishing he was on a better team with better players, because then he would have advanced out of the first round for sure

seriously does anyone think Tmac would play within the team system?

Tmac is cancer, and a expiring contract to me...

[Snip]

I am a firm beleiver in Tmac....we have no 4th quarter offense without him. Unless we can swing for another superstar, I can't trust Ron/Yao or anyone else in the 4th quarter. And yes, he can play team ball....

Now lets only hope this surgery works well for him....if Amare,Kidd, Martin can do it, so can him!!!

[moofs]

I gave him a chance after he screwed my Toronto Raptors team, (the same team that got into the second round after he left)

I gave him a chance even after he gave up and screwed the Orlando team I followed him too.

Im not giving him a chance now after he screwed this team over, blocking any possible trades with his last minute surgery, picking another team to win, while his team was still in the midst of the playoffs, and wishing he was on a better team with better players, because then he would have advanced out of the first round for sure

seriously does anyone think Tmac would play within the team system?

Tmac is cancer, and a expiring contract to me...

I don't buy that McGrady is intelligent enough to be intentionally malignant. Maybe his agent or one of his friends feeds him stuff, but I can't believe that he is personally unless he's a great actor.

[TMACFORMVP]

T-Mac says he'll be ready by opening night.

[dunleavyjr]

T-Mac says he'll be ready by opening night.

That was exactly who SheMac said prior to opening of last season.
And what happened?

I wouldn't take his words seriously. Guy's career is likely over.

[PocketRockets]

T-Mac says he'll be ready by opening night.

I know. My bro in law said tmac said he'll be there for training camp. Does he not realize that we need a healthy tmac and not the one that showed up last year? =/ Oh well at least we'll finally be able to tell all those delusional tmac fans that people don't change. People in life rarely change, hence, all those cheating gf/bfs will keep cheating on you, etc. hahah Naive....