Trade Martin for a PG?

$mooth · Post #1 » by **$mooth** » Thu May 21, 2009 3:38 am

so if we do not make any trades in the draft and stay at #4 i can see us taking harden because he will be the bpa.
now we can have martin and harden...but same scenario as thompson and griffin.
i know martin is our star player but if we traded him for a franchise pg and then had harden who has a higher cieling than martin we could have a great back court for years to come.
a scenario i could think of is martin for devin harris.
maybe martin and #31 for deng and hinrich.
a scenario i like the most is:
martin
for
calderon and #9

toronto needs a sg badly.
we need a pg badly.

i dont think the salary matches so fillers would have to be thrown in but that is the base deal.

so then we have a solid starting pg and two top ten picks.
then we draft:
harden
jennings
blair
bpa

that would be a great imo if that happened
then we would run with:
hawes
thompson
noc
harden
calderon
with: jennings,blair,cisco,greene and everyone else off the bench

thoughts?
and what would be another scenario you could see happening when trading martin in exchange for a pg?

Dustin5566 · Post #2 » by **Dustin5566** » Thu May 21, 2009 3:56 am

Wouldn't mind Harris at all.

Harris
Williams
#11

For
Martin
Thompson or hawes
23
31

Idk
Pick harden at 4. And bpa with nets pick (James Johnson, teague)

Post #3 » by **KF10** » Thu May 21, 2009 3:58 am

That trade is bad for Sacramento. (Calderon for Martin principle).

Dustin5566 · Post #4 » by **Dustin5566** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:08 am

Agreed, I love calderon, but not for kmart. For kmart we need a great player and jose is just good

BMiller52 · Post #5 » by **BMiller52** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:17 am

Harden doesn't have more potential than Kev. He's mainly a scorer, he's 6'3'' and he's limited athletically. He plays a lot like Mitch Richmond did, but you are saying he has better potential than a guy who just scored 25 PPG on a bad ankle, and his main strength is scoring. Sorry.

JSrose115 · Post #6 » by **JSrose115** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:20 am

Dustin5566 wrote:Wouldn't mind Harris at all.

Harris
Williams
#11

For
Martin
Thompson or hawes
23
31

Idk
Pick harden at 4. And bpa with nets pick (James Johnson, teague)

good trade idea...would get rid of hawes though than thompson.

Post #7 » by **pillwenney** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:26 am

We're not trading Kevin for any current PG in the league. There just isn't a situation available. NJ has no reason to be looking to move Harris, and I frankly just don't want Calderon. Nobody else really matches up value-wise.

murray · Post #8 » by **murray** » Thu May 21, 2009 4:47 am

JSrose115 wrote:
Dustin5566 wrote:Wouldn't mind Harris at all.

Harris
Williams
#11

For
Martin
Thompson or hawes
23
31

Idk
Pick harden at 4. And bpa with nets pick (James Johnson, teague)

good trade idea...would get rid of hawes though than thompson.

When did this turn into the chicago bulls board?

sacking101 · Post #9 » by **sacking101** » Thu May 21, 2009 5:10 am

harris > martin > calderon

darkadun · Post #10 » by **darkadun** » Thu May 21, 2009 5:47 am

don't think NJ would do that trade, but if they gave us Harris and 11?? Yeah I'd do that trade.

murray · Post #11 » by **murray** » Thu May 21, 2009 6:36 am

sacking101 wrote:harris > martin > calderon

Harris= Martin>>>>>>>>>>Calderon

Post #12 » by **pillwenney** » Thu May 21, 2009 6:57 am

Value wise Harris>>>Martin. There's a reason that we're the ones proposing the trades. A PG of that caliber is much harder to come by.

RIPskaterdude · Post #13 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Thu May 21, 2009 6:59 am

mitchweber wrote:Value wise Harris>>>Martin. There's a reason that we're the ones proposing the trades. A PG of that caliber is much harder to come by.

Yep. BEFORE he was traded to Dallas, we could have had Harris for Martin quite easily, but now, in terms of trade value, it would take Martin + more for Harris...something like, our 23rd pick + expiring for Harris + bad contract.

But...

Harris
Harden
Noci
Thompson
Hawes

Not bad...

Post #14 » by **pillwenney** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:18 am

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:
mitchweber wrote:Value wise Harris>>>Martin. There's a reason that we're the ones proposing the trades. A PG of that caliber is much harder to come by.

Yep. BEFORE he was traded to Dallas, we could have had Harris for Martin quite easily, but now, in terms of trade value, it would take Martin + more for Harris...something like, our 23rd pick + expiring for Harris + bad contract.

But...

Harris
Harden
Noci
Thompson
Hawes

Not bad...

NJ won't do it though.

JSrose115 · Post #15 » by **JSrose115** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:22 am

would rather look to move noc or hawes then k-mart...maybe some picks.

harris would be an ideal fit for a rebuilding kings team.

JSrose115 · Post #16 » by **JSrose115** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:24 am

murray wrote:
JSrose115 wrote:
Dustin5566 wrote:Wouldn't mind Harris at all.

Harris
Williams
#11

For
Martin
Thompson or hawes
23
31

Idk
Pick harden at 4. And bpa with nets pick (James Johnson, teague)

good trade idea...would get rid of hawes though than thompson.

When did this turn into the chicago bulls board?

and yes murray i am a long time kings fan, also a bulls fan.....so if you find my sig and picture offensive....then that is your problem.

RIPskaterdude · Post #17 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:43 am

mitchweber wrote:
xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:
mitchweber wrote:Value wise Harris>>>Martin. There's a reason that we're the ones proposing the trades. A PG of that caliber is much harder to come by.

Yep. BEFORE he was traded to Dallas, we could have had Harris for Martin quite easily, but now, in terms of trade value, it would take Martin + more for Harris...something like, our 23rd pick + expiring for Harris + bad contract.

But...

Harris
Harden
Noci
Thompson
Hawes

Not bad...

NJ won't do it though.

No no, I wasn't saying we could get Harris from the Nets. I was saying if we traded Martin for Harris BEFORE he was traded to the Nets, then the Kings could have probably traded for him for Martin + late pick from Dallas.

Draino · Post #18 » by **Draino** » Thu May 21, 2009 1:15 pm

Harris+Carter for Martin+#23+expiring ... I'd do it in a heartbeat

murray · Post #19 » by **murray** » Thu May 21, 2009 3:30 pm

JSrose115 wrote:
and yes murray i am a long time kings fan, also a bulls fan.....so if you find my sig and picture offensive....then that is your problem.

Just wondering. I see a bunch of Bulls stuff, and some ideas coming from way left field, and I become a little suspicious. To me it looks like trolling.

Post #20 » by **ICMTM** » Thu May 21, 2009 5:11 pm

murray wrote:
JSrose115 wrote:
and yes murray i am a long time kings fan, also a bulls fan.....so if you find my sig and picture offensive....then that is your problem.

Just wondering. I see a bunch of Bulls stuff, and some ideas coming from way left field, and I become a little suspicious. To me it looks like trolling.

Don't worry about trolling...we got it

The sig on the other hand....it needs work

More purple! I need to start making more of those things.

Anyhow as much as I'm not big on Martin I think he's good enough to trade for a legit player. I would trade him for Devin Harris, but other than that...I don't know. I don't think Harris is even available or the Nets would like the above trade.