Post#4 » by evildallas » Thu May 21, 2009 3:38 pm
The superstar discussion is actually a bit moot. You got lemons, you discuss how lemonade gets the job done. Teams with a superstar that haven't won it talk about whether their superstar has a good enough second fiddle or if their superstar really should be a second fiddle. Teams without a superstar are asked if they need a superstar. It's so hard to acquire a superstar unless you draft well/get lucky that you wouldn't be very well served by saying we really need a superstar. He is right that you can win with a team fully of top tier players at their positions and in doing so some of those players elevate their status. It's not impossible. It's still not that likely, but it is possible. The thing is that a team with that complete of a lineup (that's healthy at the time) you still have to have players step up when the time is needed. Detroit had different players stepping up offensively to be the star of the game when they beat the Lakers (Chauncey, Rip, Rasheed) and they had an overall defense identity. They also had bench players step up with double figure nights along the way. The other thing you can see by going back to those box scores is the consistency of their backcourt. Rip and Chauncey never seemed to have totally horrible nights. They were always good for close to 20 and occasionally stepped up for 30 if needed.
The Hawks aren't there yet. Our defense isn't that good. On offense we didn't have the consistency in the backcourt. We also didn't have as many people capable of stepping up. A big night for Bibby this year was an average night for Billups during their title run. Joe and Josh were capable of having an upper 20 or low 30 night, but there wasn't a 3rd starter showing that potential. We also didn't have anyone when they weren't contributing much offensively be a shutdown defender instead (like Prince and Ben Wallace). If we reach that level, you'll see a team with 3 starters scoring over 20 on a good night or one guy going for 30 without the rest of the roster recoiling into single figures. Don't know if the Hawks will ever get that good, but that is the model they've followed. It would take major risky moves to change the model at this time.
Going to donkey punch a leprechaun!