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What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull?

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What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#1 » by Legendary 33 » Wed May 20, 2009 11:34 pm

would a Ben Gordon s & t, tyrus thomas, and some expiring do the trick?

i know this is reduntant but i truly have nothing better to do, and amare is my favorite player..i think a deal can be panned out to help both sides
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Post#2 » by SideSwipe » Wed May 20, 2009 11:45 pm

There may be a deal there, but I don't think you got it yet. I don't think that PHX will have too much interest in Gordon given we have Richardson and Barbosa that play the position as well as Gordon. Tyrus is interesting, and could be the basis, but I think there needs to be picks, and way more talent coming back also

Tyrus, Hinrich, Salmons, Tim, James
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Stoudemire, Richardson, Dudley

Nash/ Hinrich/ Dragic
Salmons/ Barbosa
Hill/ T. Williams (#14)
Tim Thomas/ Tyrus Thomas/ Amundson
Shaq/ RoLo
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#3 » by rsavaj » Thu May 21, 2009 12:22 am

Swap Dudley for Tucker
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#4 » by chrice » Thu May 21, 2009 3:44 am

Rose and Fillers
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#5 » by -SDU- » Thu May 21, 2009 3:57 am

Tyrus, Hinrich, Salmons, Tim, James
for
Stoudemire, Richardson, Dudley

this deal isnt terrible.......
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Post#6 » by Legendary 33 » Thu May 21, 2009 3:58 am

chrice wrote:Rose and Fillers


I hope your not serious. At this point, I don't think the bulls would trade Rose for even dwight or kobe, he just means too much to the city and has too much potential
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#7 » by tigerblood » Thu May 21, 2009 4:10 am

Amare And Jrich for

Tyrus, Hinrich, Deng, #16
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Post#8 » by ihateginobili » Thu May 21, 2009 7:20 am

you honestly think the bulls wouldnt trade rose for howard? it would be stupid not too. howard will be the most dominating big man for the next 10 years, rose will be good, but i would take paul over him anyday. I even think the bulls would trade rose for kobe, you add kobe to that team and they are in the finals.
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Post#9 » by dantian » Thu May 21, 2009 8:47 am

since most suns fans are amare haters and hinrich worshippers, you could get him for hinrich plus fillers if they were Kerr. if you could take off suns bad contracts like JRich for expiring, we'd give u some picks to that, too~
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#10 » by b-ball forever » Thu May 21, 2009 11:47 am

bradley281 wrote:Amare And Jrich for

Tyrus, Hinrich, Deng, #16

THIS

+ Aaron Gray if possible


Then package the 14th + 16th + Bobcats pick + Tucker + Barnes to move up and draft Harden...

Shaq/Gray/RoLo
Tyrus/Amundson/Deng
Deng/Hill/Dudley
Harden/LB
Nash/Hinrich/Dragic

FTW
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Post#11 » by nanoclarkology » Thu May 21, 2009 1:49 pm

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... _numbered/

Here is some good news for those that want to get rid of Amare and his ego.

-1 from me though I ain't for getting rid of him.
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Post#12 » by sunsroadkill » Thu May 21, 2009 2:06 pm

Amare, JRich, and Dudley for Tyrus, Hinrich, Salmons, Tim has some merit...I definately like that Hinrich could be our defensive guard to keep guys like Williams, Pual, Parker, etc in check. Having someone like Tyrus would be nice too, a little defense around the basket. That is a lot of our scoring walking out the door though. Say what you will about Amare and JRich, but either one of those guys could go off for 50 any given night.
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#13 » by pidi » Thu May 21, 2009 3:48 pm

sunsroadkill wrote:Amare, JRich, and Dudley for Tyrus, Hinrich, Salmons, Tim has some merit...I definately like that Hinrich could be our defensive guard to keep guys like Williams, Pual, Parker, etc in check. Having someone like Tyrus would be nice too, a little defense around the basket. That is a lot of our scoring walking out the door though. Say what you will about Amare and JRich, but either one of those guys could go off for 50 any given night.


change dudley in tucker and we have a deal...
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Post#14 » by eastsidecrossover » Thu May 21, 2009 4:00 pm

Agree dantian. If the suns are going to trade Amare for that avg crap the pulls have, I say hell no. I know many hate amare for some lame reason all of a sudden, but the dude is still a top 5 PF in the game! Again, you will send this team into the dark ages if we trade him for junk the bulls send over.
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Post#15 » by Sun Scorched » Thu May 21, 2009 5:11 pm

bradley281 wrote:Amare And Jrich for

Tyrus, Hinrich, Deng, #16


I'd rather have Salmons and Thomas than Deng.

Something about the length of Deng's contract is what worries me.

You could also work out Tucker for one of their TEs.
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Post#16 » by SideSwipe » Thu May 21, 2009 5:48 pm

Scoring is the biggest issue. I would hope to turn around and swap Shaq for a good scoring guard...maybe for Carter and Boone. That would leave the lineup at:

Nash/ Hinrich/ Dragic
Carter/ Barbosa/ T. Williams (#14)
Salmons/ Hill/ Dudley
Tim T/ Ty T/ Amundson
Boone/ RoLo

or in a 3-way with the Clips and NYK for Camby and Harrington with Kaman headed to NY

Nash/ Hinrich/ Dragic
Barbosa/ T. Williams (#14)
Salmons/ Hill/ Dudley
Harrington/ Tim T/ Ty T/ Dudley
Camby/ RoLo
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#17 » by RaisingArizona » Thu May 21, 2009 6:47 pm

bradley281 wrote:Amare And Jrich for

Tyrus, Hinrich, Deng, #16


This plus noah. We'll then throw in dragic or lopez :lol:
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#18 » by Legendary 33 » Thu May 21, 2009 9:01 pm

ihateginobili wrote:you honestly think the bulls wouldnt trade rose for howard? it would be stupid not too. howard will be the most dominating big man for the next 10 years, rose will be good, but i would take paul over him anyday. I even think the bulls would trade rose for kobe, you add kobe to that team and they are in the finals.


I honestly don't. The guy is a martyre in Illinois, seriously. His ties to the city are like Paul's to New Orleans. Rose just means so much to the city because he grew up there, and he publicly expressed how badly he wanted to be in a Bulls uniform before the draft last year.

I don't understand why you would take paul over him, IMO. Rose had better rookie numbers than Paul, Williams, and Wade, and..he arguably had one of the best playoff debuts in NBA history as a rookie.

Kobes peak is gone and he'll start declining soon..so I honestly think Chicago would value Rose over Howard and Kobe.

Many of our fans think Rose has GOAT potential at the point guard position, and a lot of fans all around think Rose is already the most physically gifted point guard ever to play the game. If he hits his potential IMO he'll make chris paul look like a kid.

didn't paul even say himself that he's blessed to be compared to Rose or something like that? idk its a postgame interview youtube video i saw
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#19 » by Legendary 33 » Thu May 21, 2009 9:10 pm

b-ball forever wrote:
bradley281 wrote:Amare And Jrich for

Tyrus, Hinrich, Deng, #16

THIS

+ Aaron Gray if possible


Then package the 14th + 16th + Bobcats pick + Tucker + Barnes to move up and draft Harden...

Shaq/Gray/RoLo
Tyrus/Amundson/Deng
Deng/Hill/Dudley
Harden/LB
Nash/Hinrich/Dragic

FTW



This sounds good to me. Rose and Noah are untouchable right now, and the bulls wouldn't really be willing to part ways with Salmons because he plays well alongside Rose.

Luol Deng is an excellent player when he's healthy but he doesn't seem to complement Rose's game to well. Rose will blossom into a lethal scoring guard, (tony parker-ish) and I think Deng needs the more pass first kinda point guard like the Kirk Hinrichs, Steve Nashs, Jason Kidds, etc.)

I think with the new gm Gar Forman we can hopefully be expecting to see an attempt between the Suns and the Bulls to work something out.

Another quick question: Is there any regret on this board for that trade with Charlotte? There shouldn't be. I've always loved JRich, and I think he just needs time to be effective in the Suns offensive schemes. He brings a lot to the table
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Re: What would it take to make Amar'e A Bull? 

Post#20 » by RaisingArizona » Thu May 21, 2009 9:21 pm

xroyalty34 wrote:
b-ball forever wrote:
bradley281 wrote:
Another quick question: Is there any regret on this board for that trade with Charlotte? There shouldn't be. I've always loved JRich, and I think he just needs time to be effective in the Suns offensive schemes. He brings a lot to the table


Yes there is regret. The guy plays subpar defense and his basketball iq is extremely low. He would fit in on a team that has good defenders around him, unfortunately he's surrounded by bad defenders so he's exposed even more so.
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