Wolves looking to trade/sell #28

[big3_8_19_21]

-A number of teams are already reportedly sending out feelers indicating that they would like to acquire a pick in the late first round—including the San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets and Toronto Raptors. A few teams that are rumored to be looking to trade or sell their picks are the Oklahoma City Thunder (#25), Minnesota Timberwolves (#28) and New Orleans Hornets (#21).

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonath ... ay-20-3224

PLEASE let it be trade and not sell...

[Foye]

I would not like to sell any of our 1sts rather trade up with them...we can sell the 2nd round picks

[Devilzsidewalk]

I don't see how a team like the Wolves can give away picks. Any pick in the first round has a pretty good shot of being a rotation player. DX has Darren Collison at 28, he could potentially start here.

[invno1]

Seems kinda Crazy

[shrink]

The Wolves have said that they only wish to add two rookies to their roster, and we already have roster size issues. The #28 pick will carry $900,000 guaranteed salary in 2010 that bites into our raw cap space. Finally, the #28 in this year's draft may not even be a rotation player.

The trade I might hope for from any of them is a future protected 1st.

San Antonio only has 12 players under contract, and is already at $69.5 mil, so it makes sense that they may want to trade into this year's draft and pick up a cheap player. Their team has been built to "win-now" for several years, so their cupboards are pretty bare for assets that fit our team. I suppose that if they are feeling that their promising young euros, Mahinmi or Splitter, won't become anything in the NBA, that's a possibility, but I don't follow that drama very closely.

Toronto could offer us 2009 cap space if they renounce their. Perhaps something like Madsen + #28 for a TPE. This is intrigueing, because since we got the #6 pick, we are sitting at close to $3 mil under the salary cap. The MLE may be around $5.6 mil, so we can't make an attractive free agent offer with our cap space that would exceed what a player could get for the MLE. however, in a deal like that, we'd remove Madsen's $2.84, plus $836,300 for the pick, and be sitting at about $6.5 mil under the cap. We could use the space in free agency, or as a valuable commodity in trade.

Of course, TOR might make a nice team to trade up with. They own the #9 pick, and have a pretty short roster as well. #18 + #27 probably doesn't get there, but perhaps we could add more. I might give the 6' 5" PG Roko Ukic a look as well.

HOU's a very tough, and I just don't see anything except trading a future 1st.

Of course, many of these teams may just try to buy the pick for cash. Hopefully, Glen Taylor's wealth makes him less likely to accept that offer, but its commonplace for GM's, (or any businessmen), to sell an asset for more than its worth. Obviously it only helps us fans if its dealt for something that improves the team, but its hard to imagine that the #28 pick in this draft is worth $3 mil, plus the guaranteed salary attached, so I wouldn't blame him if he sold it. Even a direct sale helps our roster issues and gives us a little more raw cap space in 2010.

[karch34]

I'm fine with trading the pick. If we just sell it, I might be done with this team.

[shrink]

Its only the #28 .. in this draft, you hope for a bench player with an asset like that.

I also wanted to add that if we wanted the Hornets pick, I doubt they'd turn down #45 + #47 + cash for their #21. They need players to fill that roster, and they want to do it cheaply since they are already over the lux.

Of course, I wouldn't want to do this deal unless we could consolidate that pick with others to trade up.

Maybe #18 + #21 + #28 could get the Raptor's #9? They fill their roster and take a shotgun approach trying to find a good player, rather than put all their eggs in one basket, hoping #9 pans out? We gamble on the higher pick, because we don't have the roster spots.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Its only the #28 .. in this draft, you hope for a bench player with an asset like that.

in the mix you're potentially talking about guys like Dionte Xmas, D Collison, Sam Young, Jermaine Taylor, Douglas, Mills, DJames, Tsmith, any of those guys can easily upgrade the rotation

[karch34]

Its only the #28 .. in this draft, you hope for a bench player with an asset like that.

I agree. I just think there's a lot we can do with that pick besides selling it for cash. I think there's some interesting options for bench and role players that could be available and would help or we could take a Euro and stash them....especially with roster spot considerations. If the team only wants two rookies, that's fine, but I don't want assets just given away.

I think you bring up some good ideas for consolidation of picks to move up.

[shrink]

Its only the #28 .. in this draft, you hope for a bench player with an asset like that.

in the mix you're potentially talking about guys like Dionte Xmas, D Collison, Sam Young, Jermaine Taylor, Douglas, Mills, DJames, Tsmith, any of those guys can easily upgrade the rotation

Maybe. Or they could fall flat on their face and use up a roster spot and 2010 cap space.

You're right that its possible that the guy we get becomes a rotation player we use. But I think the expected value is not worth getting excited about. If I was TOR and had the roster spots/minutes for three of them, I might be more confident that one of them was going to turn into a useful player. Heck, Tony Parker was a #28. But the chances that we pull a rabbit out of the hat in this draft doesn't make me feel the expected value of the #28 is that great.

[C.lupus]

I would hope at the very least they learned a lesson from last year and at least wait until they know who is available on draft night before trading/selling the pick.

[4ho5ive]

Glen Taylor just hired a puppet he can manipulate, that pick will be sold like hotcakes.

[C.lupus]

Glen Taylor just hired a puppet he can manipulate, that pick will be sold like hotcakes.

Too bad he won't be able to do the same thing with season tickets.

[GopherIt!]

Yeah, selling the pick would be horrible PR since it was part of the KG trade. We need to make
something of this.

[Devilzsidewalk]

if they sell the pick or trade it for a future 2nd then I'll personally fund a 500,000 piece direct mail campaign to the citizens AND denizens (oh yes, denizens too!) of Minnesota outlining a detailed time-line of Minnesota transactions since the trade of KG culminating with the final blow of selling one of meager pieces of return they got from Boston. I'll also lie and make up some things too. Don't make me go there GT.

[4ho5ive]

if they sell the pick or trade it for a future 2nd then I'll personally fund a 500,000 piece direct mail campaign to the citizens AND denizens (oh yes, denizens too!) of Minnesota outlining a detailed time-line of Minnesota transactions since the trade of KG culminating with the final blow of selling one of meager pieces of return they got from Boston. I'll also lie and make up some things too. Don't make me go there GT.

Its PG, Papa Glen. He likes it when we call him daddy

[Hoops23]

-A number of teams are already reportedly sending out feelers indicating that they would like to acquire a pick in the late first round—including the San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets and Toronto Raptors. A few teams that are rumored to be looking to trade or sell their picks are the Oklahoma City Thunder (#25), Minnesota Timberwolves (#28) and New Orleans Hornets (#21).

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonath ... ay-20-3224

PLEASE let it be trade and not sell...

I suggest you add the Miami Heat to the nos. of teams that wants to add a late 1st round pick. Problem with it, I dont see any player with the TWolves they're interested in, and if there is one, I doubt the TWolves are going to trade him. Besides, it will be very hard for Miami to make a trade because of their plan of cap space in 2010. So buying a pick is their best option.

[theGreatRC]

I'd rather just gamble with the 28, who knows what we could get.

[slinky]

I have no problem if they end up selling that pick if they use the money to buy out a player from a larger trade. Like let's say Mike James in a Washington deal or a Memphis scrub.

I agree they can't do it as an isolated move, but if they were to buy out madsen, or telfair(assuming me we draft a PG)...and create a roster spot or two, I would be cool with it...

[invno1]

They dont need the money, selling the pick wont happen. They might use it to move up.