Robin Lopez

[TASTIC]

Nah.... Lopez needs experience ON court..
Look at the games he played big chunks of minutes, he blocked 2~4 shots and grabbed 8~10 rebounds.

Yes, some games when he comes in for Stoudemire or O'neal, and plays 4-5 minutes, he doesnt produce stats (rebounds and blocks), but I think he just needs to rev his engine and get switched on... 5 minutes on court will not switch you on... its unacceptable for a pro.. but thats just the way he is..
Because you have to admit he produced decent rebounding and block stats when he played 20+ minutes.... garbage time they may be.. but he looked more involved.. as opposed to a headless chicken just hustling when given 5 minutes.

Wrong!! And that's my point, even when GIVEN minutes, he didn't do SQUAT in rebounding - but his shot blocking was very good.
He averaged 10mins per game on the season, so let's say around double that is 'big chunks' of minutes:
Apr 11 @MIN 26mins 6pts 11reb 1blk - nice job, what he should be doing
Apr 10 @MEM 21mins 8pts 2reb 3blk - weak rebounding
Apr 5 @DAL 18mins 2pts 1reb 2blk - again, REBOUNDING
Apr 3 @SAC 21mins 8pts 4reb 3blk - good production
Feb 26 @LAL 24mins 6pts 4reb 2blk - meh...barely a pass...
Jan 15 @DEN 22mins 4pts 2reb 0blk - shocker
Dec 12 ORL 20mins 4pts 1reb 1blk - 1 rebound in 20mins...as a starter...
Dec 10 @LAL 32mins 8pts 3reb 1blk - Again, POOR rebounding in a start
Dec 3 @ NOR 20mins 2pts 0reb 1blk - Even a fat guy in the front row has ONE fall to him...surely
Nov 25 @OKC 25mins 11pts 5reb 3blk - Good game in his second start
Nov 7 @CHI 30mins 14pts 7reb 2blk - I remember this game, thinking we had a sleeper...sigh
Nov 4 @NJ 19mins 2pts 1reb 3blk - rebounding?!?

So as you can see, he didn't get 8-10 rebounds which is what we all expected with decent minutes, in fact he had THREE games all year where he had at least 7. He had 7 starts on the year, averaging 22mins 6.4pts and 2.6reb and 1.3blk - which to me, isn't acceptable if you're drafted for your rebounding and blocked shots (I'll give him a pass as a very good shot blocker)...but the rebounding is pathetic.
He rebounded only slightly better than Dragic...Less than Dudley...And WAY less than Loooooou

To say I'm frustrated by this pick is an understatement. I remember first hearing we were interested and screaming NOOOO at the TV...and when Stern came out I was saying 'please not Lopez, please not Lopez'

Oh Stern how you mock me...

[JohnVancouver]

Nah.... Lopez needs experience ON court..
Look at the games he played big chunks of minutes, he blocked 2~4 shots and grabbed 8~10 rebounds.

Yes, some games when he comes in for Stoudemire or O'neal, and plays 4-5 minutes, he doesnt produce stats (rebounds and blocks), but I think he just needs to rev his engine and get switched on... 5 minutes on court will not switch you on... its unacceptable for a pro.. but thats just the way he is..
Because you have to admit he produced decent rebounding and block stats when he played 20+ minutes.... garbage time they may be.. but he looked more involved.. as opposed to a headless chicken just hustling when given 5 minutes.

Wrong!! And that's my point, even when GIVEN minutes, he didn't do SQUAT in rebounding - but his shot blocking was very good.
He averaged 10mins per game on the season, so let's say around double that is 'big chunks' of minutes:
Apr 11 @MIN 26mins 6pts 11reb 1blk - nice job, what he should be doing
Apr 10 @MEM 21mins 8pts 2reb 3blk - weak rebounding
Apr 5 @DAL 18mins 2pts 1reb 2blk - again, REBOUNDING
Apr 3 @SAC 21mins 8pts 4reb 3blk - good production
Feb 26 @LAL 24mins 6pts 4reb 2blk - meh...barely a pass...
Jan 15 @DEN 22mins 4pts 2reb 0blk - shocker
Dec 12 ORL 20mins 4pts 1reb 1blk - 1 rebound in 20mins...as a starter...
Dec 10 @LAL 32mins 8pts 3reb 1blk - Again, POOR rebounding in a start
Dec 3 @ NOR 20mins 2pts 0reb 1blk - Even a fat guy in the front row has ONE fall to him...surely
Nov 25 @OKC 25mins 11pts 5reb 3blk - Good game in his second start
Nov 7 @CHI 30mins 14pts 7reb 2blk - I remember this game, thinking we had a sleeper...sigh
Nov 4 @NJ 19mins 2pts 1reb 3blk - rebounding?!?

So as you can see, he didn't get 8-10 rebounds which is what we all expected with decent minutes, in fact he had THREE games all year where he had at least 7. He had 7 starts on the year, averaging 22mins 6.4pts and 2.6reb and 1.3blk - which to me, isn't acceptable if you're drafted for your rebounding and blocked shots (I'll give him a pass as a very good shot blocker)...but the rebounding is pathetic.
He rebounded only slightly better than Dragic...Less than Dudley...And WAY less than Loooooou

To say I'm frustrated by this pick is an understatement. I remember first hearing we were interested and screaming NOOOO at the TV...and when Stern came out I was saying 'please not Lopez, please not Lopez'

Oh Stern how you mock me...

--- Looking over those stats, what came to mind was, "Man, it must hurt to be inside your head all day."

[TASTIC]

Hey...I do what I do cos I love the Suns guy

[chrice]

hindsights a wonderful thing isnt it

Not even. Everyone was questioning the pick as soon as it was made. A lot of people had Phoenix taking Speights in a landslide. Every scout knew that Lopez was raw. There were guys who had way more potential and could have contributed *this* season, but for some reason we drafted a guy who hasn't proven anything in college, except that he can play against crappy players from crappy teams.

[thamadkant]

I admit my guestamation of 8-10 rebounds is inaccurate,
However my image of Lopez is similar to that of Chris Andersen... minus the extra athletism.
I think Lopez is good for 2-3 blocks a game given 30 minutes.
However rebounding, he is a few tweaks to turn from a "poor" rebounder to a "solid" rebounder.
1 he tends to box out a lot and crutches down neutralizing his height, he is active and has quick feet... he needs to learn to play a bit dirtier as all good rebounders have that little nudging ability to win the ball.
He needs to watch more of Tim Duncan and Howard and needs to use a bit of forearms and hands to push off other players. That and get more size on his lower body.

[JMac1]

Nah.... Lopez needs experience ON court..
Look at the games he played big chunks of minutes, he blocked 2~4 shots and grabbed 8~10 rebounds.

Yes, some games when he comes in for Stoudemire or O'neal, and plays 4-5 minutes, he doesnt produce stats (rebounds and blocks), but I think he just needs to rev his engine and get switched on... 5 minutes on court will not switch you on... its unacceptable for a pro.. but thats just the way he is..
Because you have to admit he produced decent rebounding and block stats when he played 20+ minutes.... garbage time they may be.. but he looked more involved.. as opposed to a headless chicken just hustling when given 5 minutes.

Wrong!! And that's my point, even when GIVEN minutes, he didn't do SQUAT in rebounding - but his shot blocking was very good.
He averaged 10mins per game on the season, so let's say around double that is 'big chunks' of minutes:
Apr 11 @MIN 26mins 6pts 11reb 1blk - nice job, what he should be doing
Apr 10 @MEM 21mins 8pts 2reb 3blk - weak rebounding
Apr 5 @DAL 18mins 2pts 1reb 2blk - again, REBOUNDING
Apr 3 @SAC 21mins 8pts 4reb 3blk - good production
Feb 26 @LAL 24mins 6pts 4reb 2blk - meh...barely a pass...
Jan 15 @DEN 22mins 4pts 2reb 0blk - shocker
Dec 12 ORL 20mins 4pts 1reb 1blk - 1 rebound in 20mins...as a starter...
Dec 10 @LAL 32mins 8pts 3reb 1blk - Again, POOR rebounding in a start
Dec 3 @ NOR 20mins 2pts 0reb 1blk - Even a fat guy in the front row has ONE fall to him...surely
Nov 25 @OKC 25mins 11pts 5reb 3blk - Good game in his second start
Nov 7 @CHI 30mins 14pts 7reb 2blk - I remember this game, thinking we had a sleeper...sigh
Nov 4 @NJ 19mins 2pts 1reb 3blk - rebounding?!?

So as you can see, he didn't get 8-10 rebounds which is what we all expected with decent minutes, in fact he had THREE games all year where he had at least 7. He had 7 starts on the year, averaging 22mins 6.4pts and 2.6reb and 1.3blk - which to me, isn't acceptable if you're drafted for your rebounding and blocked shots (I'll give him a pass as a very good shot blocker)...but the rebounding is pathetic.
He rebounded only slightly better than Dragic...Less than Dudley...And WAY less than Loooooou

To say I'm frustrated by this pick is an understatement. I remember first hearing we were interested and screaming NOOOO at the TV...and when Stern came out I was saying 'please not Lopez, please not Lopez'

Oh Stern how you mock me...

Lol!! I see you didn't post his Best game huh! Mem Apr 13 (End of the season, when you should be judging a rookie, looking for growth) 18mins 5-7 shooting (Including a great finish on a PnR play where he took of from the middle of the key and floated a right handed finger roll from about 8 ft out!!, Plus he had 2 pts taken of the boards on another weak call, cant remeber what it was..Oh what about the up and under reverse???) 4-4 from the line( where he shoot 70% for the season) 4!! offeoffensive rebound, 5 tot a blk and 14 pts!!

Rob was starting to look good at the end of the season. I would expect an unkowledgable fan to miss the growth, since they don't watch the games and make their observation on stat lines. You didn't notice his defense improve after Shaq got in his butt. He played more physical in the post.

Robin is coming along fine. He can get up and down the court and he is HUGE!! His hair and uniform fit makes him look horrible. I was pleased with Robin's and Dragics maturation.

Lets put up Batum stats.....HE started for christ's sake. A dunk here and there makes him a stud. PLEASE!!

[JohnVancouver]

Nah.... Lopez needs experience ON court..
Look at the games he played big chunks of minutes, he blocked 2~4 shots and grabbed 8~10 rebounds.

Yes, some games when he comes in for Stoudemire or O'neal, and plays 4-5 minutes, he doesnt produce stats (rebounds and blocks), but I think he just needs to rev his engine and get switched on... 5 minutes on court will not switch you on... its unacceptable for a pro.. but thats just the way he is..
Because you have to admit he produced decent rebounding and block stats when he played 20+ minutes.... garbage time they may be.. but he looked more involved.. as opposed to a headless chicken just hustling when given 5 minutes.

Wrong!! And that's my point, even when GIVEN minutes, he didn't do SQUAT in rebounding - but his shot blocking was very good.
He averaged 10mins per game on the season, so let's say around double that is 'big chunks' of minutes:
Apr 11 @MIN 26mins 6pts 11reb 1blk - nice job, what he should be doing
Apr 10 @MEM 21mins 8pts 2reb 3blk - weak rebounding
Apr 5 @DAL 18mins 2pts 1reb 2blk - again, REBOUNDING
Apr 3 @SAC 21mins 8pts 4reb 3blk - good production
Feb 26 @LAL 24mins 6pts 4reb 2blk - meh...barely a pass...
Jan 15 @DEN 22mins 4pts 2reb 0blk - shocker
Dec 12 ORL 20mins 4pts 1reb 1blk - 1 rebound in 20mins...as a starter...
Dec 10 @LAL 32mins 8pts 3reb 1blk - Again, POOR rebounding in a start
Dec 3 @ NOR 20mins 2pts 0reb 1blk - Even a fat guy in the front row has ONE fall to him...surely
Nov 25 @OKC 25mins 11pts 5reb 3blk - Good game in his second start
Nov 7 @CHI 30mins 14pts 7reb 2blk - I remember this game, thinking we had a sleeper...sigh
Nov 4 @NJ 19mins 2pts 1reb 3blk - rebounding?!?

So as you can see, he didn't get 8-10 rebounds which is what we all expected with decent minutes, in fact he had THREE games all year where he had at least 7. He had 7 starts on the year, averaging 22mins 6.4pts and 2.6reb and 1.3blk - which to me, isn't acceptable if you're drafted for your rebounding and blocked shots (I'll give him a pass as a very good shot blocker)...but the rebounding is pathetic.
He rebounded only slightly better than Dragic...Less than Dudley...And WAY less than Loooooou

To say I'm frustrated by this pick is an understatement. I remember first hearing we were interested and screaming NOOOO at the TV...and when Stern came out I was saying 'please not Lopez, please not Lopez'

Oh Stern how you mock me...

Lol!! I see you didn't post his Best game huh! Mem Apr 13 (End of the season, when you should be judging a rookie, looking for growth) 18mins 5-7 shooting (Including a great finish on a PnR play where he took of from the middle of the key and floated a right handed finger roll from about 8 ft out!!, Plus he had 2 pts taken of the boards on another weak call, cant remeber what it was..Oh what about the up and under reverse???) 4-4 from the line( where he shoot 70% for the season) 4!! offeoffensive rebound, 5 tot a blk and 14 pts!!

Rob was starting to look good at the end of the season. I would expect an unkowledgable fan to miss the growth, since they don't watch the games and make their observation on stat lines. You didn't notice his defense improve after Shaq got in his butt. He played more physical in the post.

Robin is coming along fine. He can get up and down the court and he is HUGE!! His hair and uniform fit makes him look horrible. I was pleased with Robin's and Dragics maturation.

Lets put up Batum stats.....HE started for christ's sake. A dunk here and there makes him a stud. PLEASE!!

--- I'm willing to concede that Sideshow looked better the last third of the season; Dragic needed Alvin to encourage him and RL need Shaq to uh, encourage him, in his own way. Any way, he's not going anywhere - no-one wants him at present, salary is minimal and he would only end up in a trade to even out the numbers.
If he works this summer with a good big-man coach and adds a little muscle he could be a decent center in this league.

[JMac1]

I think he is better than what everyone is making him out to be. I guess we expected him to be better than Oden.....Wait, he was!! LMAO!!! Those are fans who should be criticizing their "once in a gerneration" center!! But they don't.

[JohnVancouver]

I think he is better than what everyone is making him out to be. I guess we expected him to be better than Oden.....Wait, he was!! LMAO!!! Those are fans who should be criticizing their "once in a gerneration" center!! But they don't.

--- I still hold out hope for GO but damn, it looks like Sam Bowie all over again

[thamadkant]

I still think Oden is a double double center who is an elite shot blocker. Unfortunately he has been plagued with annoying minor injuries that is almost pure badluck... well its not due to wear and tear on the court....

Suns if really desperate to implement a defensive team, might convince Blazers that Oden isnt who they need. But hard to do that, they do not have bad contracts and everyone is young. Nash wouldnt get them to trade Oden either...

[nevetsov]

What's disheartening is that while Robin might be alright sometime down the road, we actually drafted Marcin Gortat (ie the serial killer) in the second round, on behalf of Orlando.

For those not watching the ECF, he's acually doing a pretty decent job backing up Howard - rebounding and blocking shots, running the floor, and being really active. I think he'd be alright next to Amare, he's a bit of a rich man's Voskuhl.

[TXSun]

very dissapointed in Lopez 1st year. it can't get any worse than his rookie year so with that said, Lopez should be slightly better his sophomore season. For the record, I have never seen a 7 footer miss so many layups/dunks/shots under the basket. this guy is pathetic at this point. He better be working on his game as we speak. he needs a strong 2nd season.