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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#41 » by Walt Cronkite » Fri May 22, 2009 7:23 pm

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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#42 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Fri May 22, 2009 7:44 pm

Bob Johnson was #179 on the Forbes 400 list in 2003. He's not on the 2008 list....
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#43 » by fatlever » Fri May 22, 2009 8:00 pm

can we get nelly to sell his part of the team as well? he is useless.
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Post#44 » by ccbballin » Fri May 22, 2009 10:09 pm

Considering Charlotte already lost one NBA franchise it would probably be hard to move a 2nd one. Hopefully.

Let Raleigh have baseball someday, keep the Bobcats in Charlotte!

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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#45 » by amcoolio » Fri May 22, 2009 11:05 pm

Having gone to NC State, Charlotte is better.

However, I'd buy the team, rename them and split their games between Charlotte if Raleigh and call them "Carolina" something, if that was possible.
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#46 » by e4Nf6 » Fri May 22, 2009 11:26 pm

There are proffesional Hockey teams? I had no idea....

They have uniforms and everything! Isn´t that neat...
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Post#47 » by therebirth » Sat May 23, 2009 2:50 am

The real question is how much is he willing to accept for this team? With the way the economy is, he is going to be willing to take a big loss which I don't see happening. So even if this team is on the market, it could take years to sell.
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Post#48 » by arh1109 » Sat May 23, 2009 8:16 pm

e4Nf6 wrote:There are proffesional Hockey teams? I had no idea....

They have uniforms and everything! Isn´t that neat...

Lol the fans are just as bad, most don't even know the rules they just go to see the other team get laid out.
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#49 » by BigSlam » Sun May 24, 2009 12:14 pm

Says here the team wont be leaving the city even if it is sold to another owner:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcat ... 42538.html
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Post#50 » by countryboi » Sun May 24, 2009 4:38 pm

yea it says they CAN'T leave....thats tough
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Post#51 » by shrink » Sun May 31, 2009 2:29 pm

My question would be whether Bob will try to move some longer salaries to make the team more attractive to a buyer, particularly with the shrinking economy?
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Post#52 » by BigSlam » Sun May 31, 2009 2:36 pm

shrink wrote:My question would be whether Bob will try to move some longer salaries to make the team more attractive to a buyer, particularly with the shrinking economy?

Highly doubtful. He's not about to cut off his nose to spite his face.
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Post#53 » by e4Nf6 » Sun May 31, 2009 7:53 pm

shrink wrote:My question would be whether Bob will try to move some longer salaries to make the team more attractive to a buyer, particularly with the shrinking economy?


With all the talk about bad contracts it's easy to forget that the Cats have the 3rd lowest payroll in the league...

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#54 » by shrink » Sun May 31, 2009 11:27 pm

e4Nf6 wrote:
shrink wrote:My question would be whether Bob will try to move some longer salaries to make the team more attractive to a buyer, particularly with the shrinking economy?


With all the talk about bad contracts it's easy to forget that the Cats have the 3rd lowest payroll in the league...

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm


First, don't use hoopshype -its loaded with errors. These will be more useful for you:

http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/r ... laries.htm

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... obcats.jsp

Second, CHA is far from the bottom of the payroll list now. ATL, DET, MEM, MIN, OKC, POR, SAC, and TOR are far below CHA, and even below the salary cap. CHA will probably end up sitting just under the lux, like many teams.

And to the previous poster, owners looking to sell often try to rid their team of longer contracts, so I don't think they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#55 » by BigSlam » Sun May 31, 2009 11:37 pm

shrink wrote:And to the previous poster, owners looking to sell often try to rid their team of longer contracts, so I don't think they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

If the city/area doesn't embrace the team (and so far it's been a little luke warm) then the team wont survive in CHA - especially after everything the fans had to go through with Shinn. If they don't put a competative product on the floor or is viewed to be cheap by getting rid of good players just to cut costs, the locals will abort the team - which wont be that attractive to prospective buyers. Why but a team that doesn't have local support and will lose boat loads of money?

Top Bob wants full value for the team in a sale. He wont get that with a watered down product.
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#56 » by Rich4114 » Tue Jun 2, 2009 9:32 pm

Wow, we have WAY too much money tied up between Diop, Nazr, and Radman. Over $20m for next year.

I guess it's two folded though, because we always had all the cap room in the world but never made a move with it. Of course that was when we had the over conservative Bernie Bickerstaff Vs the over liberal MJ.

We really need to add another vet to this team and it's going to cost us the MLE. I saw someone mentioned moving DJ and Nazr for Kaman. I'm almost tempted to say let's do that and then draft another damn PG to be backup and sign Iverson to be our SG.
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#57 » by Rich4114 » Tue Jun 2, 2009 9:42 pm

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shrink wrote:And to the previous poster, owners looking to sell often try to rid their team of longer contracts, so I don't think they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

If the city/area doesn't embrace the team (and so far it's been a little luke warm) then the team wont survive in CHA - especially after everything the fans had to go through with Shinn. If they don't put a competative product on the floor or is viewed to be cheap by getting rid of good players just to cut costs, the locals will abort the team - which wont be that attractive to prospective buyers. Why but a team that doesn't have local support and will lose boat loads of money?

Top Bob wants full value for the team in a sale. He wont get that with a watered down product.


Meh, things have changed. This is pretty much every NBA city in the country except the major markets like Chicago, NY, LA. Even Miami had trouble filling seats before they became good. Look at Sacramento, they're about 8 years behind in the cycle we were in. Look at what just happened to Seattle. You're telling me Seattle can't support an NBA market over Oklahoma? BS.

The media hype is different than it was 15 years ago. You used to see all kinds of different teams on TV and different players on commercials. Charlotte had the expansion honeymoon (and might I add the only pro-option in town) and that transitioned nicely to the LJ/Zo/Rice/Divac days where they were well past the honeymoon but it didn't matter because they were a championship calibur team each year.

This city is going to appear very fickle, and they are. But despite what you might see on msg boards and the observer, people don't come to the games because there's nothing worth paying for to watch. This is all sports in markets outside the major ones save maybe NFL which is 8 home games per year.

Look at the arena when Kobe or Lebron come to play. It looks pretty good right? Well, if those guys played in Charlotte I bet you'd see a sellout every night because then it's worth playing the BS prices to see a game.

People are forced to be smarter now with their money. Less people are willing to fork over even more cash to go see a crap product than before, I think it's as simple as that.

Put a team that wins on the floor or a highly marketable star and a decent team who can make the playoffs and I think you see the attendance go way up. It showed signs of better attendance in the wost economic conditions since world war I as soon as people began talking about the Bobcats making the playoffs. That tells me if we're good next year, like playoff good, then attendance will probably reflect that which will in turn make our team a little more valuable than it is now.
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#58 » by therebirth » Wed Jun 3, 2009 3:25 am

I just finished reading some comments at the Observer. All I can say is wow. There are a lot of racist people commenting there. It seems they won't be happy until this team is owned by a white guy. What has Larry Bird done for Indiana? I think they are at the bottom in attendance. That writer should be proud of his readers.
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Re: Bob Johnson seeks buyer for Bobcats 

Post#59 » by Eoghan » Sat Jun 6, 2009 7:33 pm

The people that post on the Observer are dumb as hell, that's why I jumped ship over to here. I don't care what color the owner is, let's not forget the fact that we finally got an owner willing to pay to keep players a little bit. I still say if he hadn't done the whole C-set or whatever that was called and people in Carolina could actually see the Cats from the get go they wouldn't be raking him over the coals.

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