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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#21 » by mj_shoefanatic » Thu May 21, 2009 1:25 pm

Lifter wrote:I'm very excited, and anyone who thinks we should get Rubio because we already have big men is insane.


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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#22 » by loflin3hree5ive » Thu May 21, 2009 2:06 pm

What might make the most sense on paper would be for the Clippers and Grizzlies to work out a trade in which Memphis could take Griffin and Los Angeles would get Rubio. For that to happen, Memphis would have to part with one of their core assets, likely Rudy Gay. Obviously we’ll have to stay tuned, because as John Hollinger correctly indicated in his latest column last night’s lottery left more questions than answers for the teams drafting in the top 5.


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Givony calling a smoke screen with the Clippers insistance they will take Griffin #1. Rubio & Gay for Griffin would be pretty hard to pass up.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#23 » by mj_shoefanatic » Thu May 21, 2009 2:10 pm

Gay and Rubio possibly in LA :eek2:

I still prefer Griffin.
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Post#24 » by brassviews » Thu May 21, 2009 2:38 pm

Maybe the Clips will screw up by not making that trade or maybe they'll screw up by not keeping Griffin.

History shows they screw up somehow.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#25 » by Forte IV » Thu May 21, 2009 2:40 pm

Lakers didnt draft Kobe. Dallas didnt draft Nowitzki. Blazers didnt draft Roy
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#26 » by Hooch20 » Thu May 21, 2009 2:53 pm

With Rubio's camp stating that he doesn't want to play in Memphis we should look to acquire the pick.

How about Camby, Thornton, a future 1st, and the Wolves pick for the 2nd pick, Jaric, and Buckner.

We would get to build around a great young nucleus of Rubio, Gordon, Griffin, and Jordan.

The Grizz get a first team all rookie from two years ago, two future 1st's, and save about 10 million down the road. The Grizz could then chose to play small and run with Gay as the PF and Thornton at SF or they could try to move Gay in a package for Amare.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#27 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Thu May 21, 2009 2:56 pm

In my opinion I think that Blake Griffin is the only player in this draft that can lift our franchise. I really hope that we don't trade this pick or trade him. If he is head and shoulders over everyone else in this draft he is the player we should be drafting.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#28 » by brassviews » Thu May 21, 2009 3:06 pm

Hooch20 wrote:How about Camby, Thornton, a future 1st, and the Wolves pick for the 2nd pick, Jaric, and Buckner



It's Griffin or no deal.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#29 » by Hooch20 » Thu May 21, 2009 3:31 pm

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Hooch20 wrote:How about Camby, Thornton, a future 1st, and the Wolves pick for the 2nd pick, Jaric, and Buckner



It's Griffin or no deal.


So be it. I like where we stand now. Have fun drafting Rubio and having him stay in Spain.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#30 » by brassviews » Thu May 21, 2009 4:08 pm

I'm not a Memphis fan. I'm just expressing my opinion which I think Memphis shares.

Camby is on the decline. Thornton isn't special and is repetitive at SF with Gay there. Future 1st is nothing to get happy about.

Memphis needs a PF, not bunch of unnecessary assets.
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Post#31 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Fri May 22, 2009 4:12 am

StutterStep wrote:People always say Randolph is unmovable, and it's usually people who don't see him play on a day-to-day.

Houston, Orlando, NJ, etc... teams who would take Randolph w/o even a real negotiation!


Houston wouldn't take Randolph. Orlando would deal Lewis for him. You could get Vince Carter for Randolph if you added the Minnesota pick.

The bottom line is the Knicks tried to move Randolph for months and all they could get was contracts that expired one year earlier. But entering the 2010 free agency class, no one is going to deal expiring contracts for Randolph. Except a dumb owner like Sterling or Dolan. But Dolan already acquired him once.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#32 » by loflin3hree5ive » Fri May 22, 2009 4:17 am

Shard for Z-Bo sounds better and better. If he ever gets hurt though the Clippers would heavily regreat adding the two extra years.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#33 » by madmaxmedia » Fri May 22, 2009 3:55 pm

The latest wiretap should nip this in the bud. Rubio has more leverage than college players in terms of dissuading teams from drafting him, because he can just stay in Europe another year.

Who wants the headache?
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#34 » by illastrate » Fri May 22, 2009 4:54 pm

Wow, I'm liking the Shard for Z-Bo deal more and more. Although he's got 2 more years than Zach, he gives us a guy who can replace Thornton in the lineup. He's a better shooter, passer, and has a higher bball IQ than Al. Thornton is regulated to the 6th man role where he can give us instant offense like JR Smith or Jason Terry. Our lineup:

PF - Griffin
SF - Lewis
C - Kaman/Camby
SG - Gordon
PG - Davis

I like it.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#35 » by Lifter » Sat May 23, 2009 1:22 am

SuperNova854 wrote:Lakers didnt draft Kobe. Dallas didnt draft Nowitzki. Blazers didnt draft Roy

Get outta here with that crap! You know what I mean. They acquired them before their rookie year started. Same fukin difference as drafting them. Kobe Dirk and Roy have played for the same team since they started in the NBA.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#36 » by ClipperDomination » Sat May 23, 2009 1:38 am

PF - Griffin
SF - Lewis
C - Kaman/Camby
SG - Gordon
PG - Davis

I like it.


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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#37 » by jgustav1 » Sat May 23, 2009 4:06 am

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:
StutterStep wrote:People always say Randolph is unmovable, and it's usually people who don't see him play on a day-to-day.

Houston, Orlando, NJ, etc... teams who would take Randolph w/o even a real negotiation!


Houston wouldn't take Randolph. Orlando would deal Lewis for him. You could get Vince Carter for Randolph if you added the Minnesota pick.



I doubt that Orlando would give up Lewis for Randolph, look at how well their team is playing in the playoffs, why would they want Zach? He could provide some rebounding and low post scoring help for Howard but doesn't help them out with low post defense.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#38 » by jgustav1 » Sat May 23, 2009 4:11 am

Hooch20 wrote:With Rubio's camp stating that he doesn't want to play in Memphis we should look to acquire the pick.

How about Camby, Thornton, a future 1st, and the Wolves pick for the 2nd pick, Jaric, and Buckner.

We would get to build around a great young nucleus of Rubio, Gordon, Griffin, and Jordan.

The Grizz get a first team all rookie from two years ago, two future 1st's, and save about 10 million down the road. The Grizz could then chose to play small and run with Gay as the PF and Thornton at SF or they could try to move Gay in a package for Amare.


I'm a little surprised a Clipper fan would propose this. This isn't close to fair, that is a 4 for 1 for Rubio and who knows where the Wolves pick will end up, it could easily be top 4.
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Re: Rubio Instead of Griffin? 

Post#39 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Sun May 24, 2009 3:27 am

jgustav1 wrote:
Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:
StutterStep wrote:People always say Randolph is unmovable, and it's usually people who don't see him play on a day-to-day.

Houston, Orlando, NJ, etc... teams who would take Randolph w/o even a real negotiation!


Houston wouldn't take Randolph. Orlando would deal Lewis for him. You could get Vince Carter for Randolph if you added the Minnesota pick.



I doubt that Orlando would give up Lewis for Randolph, look at how well their team is playing in the playoffs, why would they want Zach? He could provide some rebounding and low post scoring help for Howard but doesn't help them out with low post defense.


Ya, you're probably right. If Orlando makes the Finals, there's no chance.

But if the Cavs do win, there is a chance the Magic might like to get rid of Lewis' contract to ensure they could afford resigning Hedo. Depends on if they can afford Hedo right now or not.

But the Clippers would be foolish to make that trade. You don't want to owe $35M per year to Baron Davis and Rashard Lewis from now until hell freezes over. They don't make you playoff contenders. Especially since Donald Sterling isn't going to let the Clippers payroll get much over $60M.

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