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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#21 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Sun May 24, 2009 6:26 pm

mj_shoefanatic wrote:Zbo off the bench with Taylor, FJ, Novak and DJ to solidify our bench. Then S&T Kaman + fillers for Hinrich & Ty Thomas. R.Davis should not be on our team next season :wavefinger:


Kaman is under contract for 3 more seasons, so a Sign & Trade cant be done.

However, Hinrich alone will salary-match Kaman.

Sam Smith reports that while the Bulls were interested in Kaman at one time, they apparently have lost interest & are seeking cheaper alternatives
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#22 » by illastrate » Sun May 24, 2009 7:47 pm

Roscoe Sheed wrote:This is a tricky situation. The Clips have to trade one or two of their bigs (Camby, Kaman, or Z Bo). My favorite of the 3 is Z Bo, but he plays the same position as Griffin, so its a problem. Kinda like Aldridge- he probably wouldn't have developed fully if the Blazers had kept Z Bo


That's the key. A lot of people want to keep Zach, and granted his offensive efficiency is superb, the bottom line is he plays the same position as Griffin. We should take the same approach as Portland has with Aldridge, no doubt.
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#23 » by ClipperDomination » Sun May 24, 2009 10:19 pm

illastrate wrote:
Roscoe Sheed wrote:This is a tricky situation. The Clips have to trade one or two of their bigs (Camby, Kaman, or Z Bo). My favorite of the 3 is Z Bo, but he plays the same position as Griffin, so its a problem. Kinda like Aldridge- he probably wouldn't have developed fully if the Blazers had kept Z Bo


That's the key. A lot of people want to keep Zach, and granted his offensive efficiency is superb, the bottom line is he plays the same position as Griffin. We should take the same approach as Portland has with Aldridge, no doubt.


Exactly, plus the fact that Griffin has a ceiling comparable to Aldridge (and that dude is a stud)...

I think Z-Bo needs to get moved to a team who can afford to dump him while needing a post presence (Memphis, Milwaukee), while we get more time for DJ to develop as well. Camby is a perfect mentor for these young bigs on our team.
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#24 » by It_Was_Typed » Sun May 24, 2009 10:42 pm

Easy.

You buy him out.
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Post#25 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun May 24, 2009 11:01 pm

^

I think they should only do that if it becomes clear that he will be a malcontent coming off the bench. He could be a helluva 6th man. Give him 30 mins a game and I bet he'd still come close to 20 ppg.
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#26 » by Hooch20 » Sun May 24, 2009 11:15 pm

I pretty much think we hold onto Randolph and worry about it after this year. Griffin won't be starting right away and with the lack of quality big men in the league I see no problems playing them together. After this year Randolph has one year left on his contract and he becomes of very valuable expiring contract.
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#27 » by ClipperDomination » Mon May 25, 2009 12:18 am

Hooch20 wrote:I pretty much think we hold onto Randolph and worry about it after this year. Griffin won't be starting right away and with the lack of quality big men in the league I see no problems playing them together. After this year Randolph has one year left on his contract and he becomes of very valuable expiring contract.


So you wouldn't start the #1 pick and the only hope of our franchise getting out of the gutter? :o
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#28 » by Hooch20 » Mon May 25, 2009 12:23 am

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Hooch20 wrote:I pretty much think we hold onto Randolph and worry about it after this year. Griffin won't be starting right away and with the lack of quality big men in the league I see no problems playing them together. After this year Randolph has one year left on his contract and he becomes of very valuable expiring contract.


So you wouldn't start the #1 pick and the only hope of our franchise getting out of the gutter? :o


I'm all for starting the best player. When he comes in he's not going to be better than Randolph. Starting Griffin as well is also the easiest way to make Randolph a cancer.

If Griffin comes in and is ready to start so be it. I just don't see him being ready to start the season.
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#29 » by Tommy Udo 6 » Mon May 25, 2009 1:19 am

It_Was_Typed wrote:Easy.

You buy him out.


Or do what Bulls did with Tim Thomas (first time)

Thomas couldnt get along with Skiles so Bulls just sent him home but paid him. Later his agent asked Bulls to waive him so Tm could join a playoff team.

(Tim is now back with Bulls but gets along well with coach Del Negro)
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#30 » by illastrate » Mon May 25, 2009 3:24 am

Hooch20 wrote:
ClipperDomination wrote:
Hooch20 wrote:I pretty much think we hold onto Randolph and worry about it after this year. Griffin won't be starting right away and with the lack of quality big men in the league I see no problems playing them together. After this year Randolph has one year left on his contract and he becomes of very valuable expiring contract.


So you wouldn't start the #1 pick and the only hope of our franchise getting out of the gutter? :o


I'm all for starting the best player. When he comes in he's not going to be better than Randolph. Starting Griffin as well is also the easiest way to make Randolph a cancer.

If Griffin comes in and is ready to start so be it. I just don't see him being ready to start the season.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there was a PG controversy between Hinrich and Rose, but then Hinrich got injured and Rose started by default. Rose ended playing very well and secured the starting spot, but who knows what would've happened had Hinrich been healthy all year. My point is, we need to start Griffin and see what he can do. If he doesn't play well, then you can bench him. It's not like we're making the playoffs anyway.
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#31 » by Hooch20 » Mon May 25, 2009 11:08 am

Benching him would do wonders for his confidence.
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Re: What if Clippers can't move Randolph? 

Post#32 » by mj_shoefanatic » Mon May 25, 2009 11:50 am

Tommy Udo 6 wrote:
mj_shoefanatic wrote:Zbo off the bench with Taylor, FJ, Novak and DJ to solidify our bench. Then S&T Kaman + fillers for Hinrich & Ty Thomas. R.Davis should not be on our team next season :wavefinger:


Kaman is under contract for 3 more seasons, so a Sign & Trade cant be done.

However, Hinrich alone will salary-match Kaman.

Sam Smith reports that while the Bulls were interested in Kaman at one time, they apparently have lost interest & are seeking cheaper alternatives


Thanks for the correction. I meant to say simply swap contracts with yall + filler for Hinrich & Ty Thomas.

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