KG Surgery Successful
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When they mean 'succesful surgery" it just code word for saying dude didn't get some bad infection or die on the operating table. Its not really supposed to imply that he will recover to normal from his procedure (though of course we hope he will)..
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Red2 wrote:this whole thing was a cluster****. Again , my belief is the Celtics probably told KG he needed surgery and he refused. This really was a lost season and it was so unnecessary because if he had had the surgery back in February or whenever this first surfaced we'd still be playing now.
I dont think KG was an issue here, right diagnosis - "if you play regardless, you'll miss playoff" would be convincing enough for him IMO, if they werent sure before the start of the season, how could they misdiagnose again when sidelined KG near the end of the season? KG never had a serious injuries before coming to Celtics, now he has less load but still injuries seem plaguing him and the whole Celtics roster. Its a clear sign of crappy medical staff with misdiagnosis and obvious lack of injuries prevention.
I watch Suns and I'm amazed how well their staff works, ancient Shaq is beasting, 36 years old Hill who was supposed to end his career already, is as healthy as possible in his situation, plays long minutes and contributes nicely.
Who would win one-on-one in HORSE?
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Magic: Larry, you'd have no chance against me one-on-one. I've got too many ways to beat you. Plus, as slow as I am, I'm still faster than you.

Bird: Nobody beats me in H-O-R-S-E. Besides, Magic cant shoot.
Magic: Larry, you'd have no chance against me one-on-one. I've got too many ways to beat you. Plus, as slow as I am, I'm still faster than you.

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Harison wrote:I dont think KG was an issue here, right diagnosis - "if you play regardless, you'll miss playoff" would be convincing enough for him IMO, if they werent sure before the start of the season, how could they misdiagnose again when sidelined KG near the end of the season? KG never had a serious injuries before coming to Celtics, now he has less load but still injuries seem plaguing him and the whole Celtics roster. Its a clear sign of crappy medical staff with misdiagnosis and obvious lack of injuries prevention.
KG has a big number of minutes on his body, and there is a school of thought which believes that it is number of minutes played moreso than age which impacts injury and decrease in performance. He's played 5,000 more minutes than Bird did, 9,000 more than McHale. Top 30 all time. KG couldn't escape injury forever.
Ainge last offseason re-signed Tony Allen, a guy with an injury history. And he drafted Walker, a guy with an injury history. Draft before he signed an overweight guy, chances are the wear on his body on a basketball court are likely to be more than the usual player. And signed Pollard, who had a wreck of a body. And the draft before that, he drafted Powe, who also had an injury history.
I sincerely hope Ainge doesn't draft more damaged players this year, because unfortunately he's accumulating a group with a pre-disposition for injury. I think the injury problems are much less quality of the medical staff, and moreso that Ainge is cheaply bringing in damaged goods under the naive expectation that a miracle will occur, and these guys will somehow remain healthy.
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Dave_From_NB wrote:KG has a big number of minutes on his body, and there is a school of thought which believes that it is number of minutes played moreso than age which impacts injury and decrease in performance. He's played 5,000 more minutes than Bird did, 9,000 more than McHale. Top 30 all time. KG couldn't escape injury forever.
Wear and tear is understandable, but dont you find anything wrong with how its was handled?.. They made mistake before even season started, and it went only worse afterward.
Dave_From_NB wrote:Ainge last offseason re-signed Tony Allen, a guy with an injury history. And he drafted Walker, a guy with an injury history. Draft before he signed an overweight guy, chances are the wear on his body on a basketball court are likely to be more than the usual player. And signed Pollard, who had a wreck of a body. And the draft before that, he drafted Powe, who also had an injury history.
I agree Ainge could have not signed several guys who are injury prone, but is EVERYBODY injury prone in Celtics as it seems from this season? More than 2/3 of roster battling with injuries at one moment is insane, and not coincident by any means. It seems there is virtually zero injury prevention (if all players are going through them), and when players get some issues, its not solved until it becomes worse and worse and player is sidelined, and still misdiagnosed. Can it be any worse? Thats why its Wyc responsibility to find decent medical staff, it isnt at the moment.
Who would win one-on-one in HORSE?
Bird: Nobody beats me in H-O-R-S-E. Besides, Magic cant shoot.
Magic: Larry, you'd have no chance against me one-on-one. I've got too many ways to beat you. Plus, as slow as I am, I'm still faster than you.

Bird: Nobody beats me in H-O-R-S-E. Besides, Magic cant shoot.
Magic: Larry, you'd have no chance against me one-on-one. I've got too many ways to beat you. Plus, as slow as I am, I'm still faster than you.

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I read more than once that KG himself said " he had never had surgery before". To me the implication was clear; KG did not want surgery . He probably had people telling him to avoid surgery if he could and my own belief is that his fear of surgery as much as anything else prevented him from doing something about this sooner. I've had a few surgeries and I agree that if you can get by without it you should . Here though it seems ( in hindsight) that the reason the tendon couldn't heal was because of the bone spurs and if those had been removed several months ago
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Successful Surgery means the Surgery went as planned. Not that KG is not gonna have other problems with the knee. Does anyone know if there are any limitations or side-effects to such a surgery?
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Harison wrote: Wear and tear is understandable, but dont you find anything wrong with how its was handled?.. They made mistake before even season started, and it went only worse afterward.
I agree Ainge could have not signed several guys who are injury prone, but is EVERYBODY injury prone in Celtics as it seems from this season? More than 2/3 of roster battling with injuries at one moment is insane, and not coincident by any means. It seems there is virtually zero injury prevention (if all players are going through them), and when players get some issues, its not solved until it becomes worse and worse and player is sidelined, and still misdiagnosed. Can it be any worse? Thats why its Wyc responsibility to find decent medical staff, it isnt at the moment.
I don't like how it was handled, my preference for early season injuries is to get the guy treated asap, and have a fully recovered player by the playoffs.
Players are going to get 1 or 2 game injuries, it's just part of the game. Twisted ankes, bruised knees type of stuff. I don't how they would have stopped Scals concussion, although he came back too soon. Or Davis' car accident. Putting the Injury Pre-disposition list (IPDL) aside, Pierce, RA, Rondo, House averaged 80 games each. Perk with his shoulders played 75. Walker (IPDL) and Giddens were hurt in the D league, that hardly counts. Cassell didn't play a game. O'Bryant and Pruitt didn't play hard enough to break a sweat, let alone get injured. TA, LP and GD are on my injury pre-disposition list, not a surprise they missed games. So really other than KG and the IPDL list, I'm not sure I see where the injury concern is coming from.
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I don't think any of us really know the true answers and are just disappointed.....some more then others. I will withhold opinion and be happy with the 1 Ring for now, see what news comes out and I feel the window is not shut with this unit. The job is not finished and I see no panic mode. Keep the core intact and add to it.


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the whole situation remains a mystery because the one guy who knows the REAL story has never opened his mouth and that's KG. Until someone can prove to me differently I remain convinced that KG is the one who prevented the surgery from happening sooner
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