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How long before Cito changes the line-up?

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How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#1 » by s e n s i » Mon May 25, 2009 8:21 pm

Pretty straight forward question. How many consecutive games are we going to lose before Cito swaps a few guys outta their respective places in the order? Or how long until Frasor is actually used in a close game before Carlson, Camp, League, or Ryan?

Will he even consider it?
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Post#2 » by s e n s i » Mon May 25, 2009 8:23 pm

SMFH.
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Re: How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#3 » by J-Roc » Mon May 25, 2009 8:26 pm

I don't think it's Cito's style to shuffle the order. He's more about putting in fresh new bats. Problem is, we don't have any choices in that sense. Who's the bench player who can replace someone in the lineup?
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Re: How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#4 » by Kosta » Mon May 25, 2009 8:30 pm

who hits 4th? Lind? He's what 3/28 in the last 7, the Jays need to make a trade for a power bat...
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Re: How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#5 » by J-Roc » Mon May 25, 2009 9:34 pm

The thing about those power hitters who protect the guy in front of them, it's more a mental thing than about real stats. Sure Lind is our "power" guy, but he's still just Adam Lind, a no-name guy. A pitcher doesn't think about him like we think about Alex Rodriguez about to come up to bat.
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Re: How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#6 » by lemondrop » Tue May 26, 2009 11:01 pm

I like what Cito is doing, the lineup is what it is the best players are playing, changing it does nothing.
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Re: How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#7 » by s e n s i » Wed May 27, 2009 5:34 am

lemondrop wrote:I like what Cito is doing, the lineup is what it is the best players are playing, changing it does nothing.


Uhhh, he can change the line-up without taking anyone out, you know that right?
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Re: How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#8 » by lemondrop » Wed May 27, 2009 10:51 pm

NO WAY REALLY? I NEVER KNEW THAT!!!!!! YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME I WATCHED A BALL GAME AT 33 YEARS OLD!!!!!!

The best players are playing with the best possible rotation, imo there isn't much he can do to change the outcome or get more runs. It was only two weeks ago this same team had the most runs in the majors.
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Re: How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#9 » by s e n s i » Wed May 27, 2009 10:58 pm

lemondrop wrote:NO WAY REALLY? I NEVER KNEW THAT!!!!!! YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME I WATCHED A BALL GAME AT 33 YEARS OLD!!!!!!

The best players are playing with the best possible rotation, imo there isn't much he can do to change the outcome or get more runs. It was only two weeks ago this same team had the most runs in the majors.


Just like changing something isn't going to guarantee success, not changing anything could be just as pivotal. I mean, we lost 9 games in a row, and our offense has looked average to below average since the Yankees series a couple of weeks ago. Can things really get worse if we move Vernon down in the order? Let the guy hit at the 8th spot without runners on, and let Scutaro and Hill knock him in.
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Re: How long before Cito changes the line-up? 

Post#10 » by Kosta » Wed May 27, 2009 11:27 pm

Scoot
Rios
Hill
Lind
Wells
Rolen
Barajas
Overbay
Bautista

I guess that seems the most logical line up. Rios just has to worry about getting on damn base and Wells doesn't have to be the focal point. Cito better do something soon though, his no change approach is making him look like a manager who can't adjust and make moves on the fly, he needs to drop the old school mentality, it worked at the end of last season and for 41 games this one, thats nice, but sh_t done changed.

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