Do you do this Draft Day Trade?

daddyfivestar · Post #1 » by **daddyfivestar** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:10 pm

This is a Draft Day trade - as the GM you only care about your team and whether you improved to be a playoff contender or more, and helped your financial situation.
You do not know where your players ended up, and really you don't care whether other teams got fair value or not, because you are worried about your situation not anyone elses.

Minnesota's end: Player, '09/'10 salary, contract guaranteed end yr
In:
Gasol, 3.24, 2011
Gay, 3.28, 2011
Law, 2.22, 2012

Out:
Miller, 9.88, 2010
Love, 3.40, 2013
#6

With Jefferson, Foye, and the rest, do you do this?

john2jer · Post #2 » by **john2jer** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:18 pm

Good Lord that's terrible.

Acie Law has proven to be a bust. Gay will be a career loser. Gasol's nice, but older than we'd like and a bit slow.

Love >= Gay
Miller >> Law
#6 > Gasol

Esohny · Post #3 » by **Esohny** » Wed May 27, 2009 9:53 pm

Yeah, that's really brutal.

prefuse73 · Post #4 » by **prefuse73** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:07 pm

I would do it if you take out Love/Miller & #6 and put in Al Jefferson.

Jefferson for Gasol/Gay/Law seems like good value too me. And we finally get Gay Love.

Gasol - #18/FA
Love - Smith
Gay - Miller
Foye - Brewer
Evans (#6) - Foye - Telfair

daddyfivestar · Post #5 » by **daddyfivestar** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:18 pm

Wow -

With holes at C and SF, the ability to move the redundancy at PF, and shed the $9 mil 9ppg SF?

Gasol old? - he's 24. You must be thinking of his brother.
Gay loser? - only because he's on Memphis and they traded away their two best players from the playoff team. His final year at UConn they were 30-3 and he was the best player.

To put a good 7'1 C and a 19ppg scorer around Jefferson and Foye would be a playoff caliber upgrade for Min. Gasol and Love's #s were very similar in their rookie seasons this year but Gasol could actually play defensive C with Jefferson still in the game. The point of this trade was to move the redudancy and fill two holes. Law is a throw in, originally I had Farmar going that way but thought Law could still develop into a good backup for Foye/Telfaire and is on rook deal.
Who is being picked up at 6 that makes this team any better? Use it to grow now.

edit - Don't know if the $$ would work with Jefferson.

john2jer · Post #6 » by **john2jer** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:25 pm

Love is 4 years younger than Gasol.

You clearly know very little about Mike Miller.

Jefferson's out until around New Year's, blowing our load to win now isn't exactly the best use of assets.

You made a solid attempt at a trade and failed, it's not the end of the world.

Xand1 · Post #7 » by **Xand1** » Wed May 27, 2009 11:35 pm

No. I really do not like Rudy Gay.. I wouldn't swap him for Love straight up, and the #6 is worth more than Gasol. Adding Miller on top is just.. yuck. No thanks.

big3_8_19_21 · Post #8 » by **big3_8_19_21** » Thu May 28, 2009 12:03 am

Yeah, I've seen worse trades, but I definitely don't go for this one.

Hoiberg recently reiterated that we expect Pekovic to come over in 2010 and he was THE all-euroleague 1st team center this year so that solves our C hole. Gay is a good player and he'd look good in a Wolves uni, but that's just too many assets to give up to get him.

B Calrissian · Post #9 » by **B Calrissian** » Thu May 28, 2009 12:06 am

big3_8_19_21 wrote:Yeah, I've seen worse trades, but I definitely don't go for this one.

Hoiberg recently reiterated that we expect Pekovic to come over in 2010 and he was THE all-euroleague 1st team center this year so that solves our C hole. Gay is a good player and he'd look good in a Wolves uni, but that's just too many assets to give up to get him.

Whoa, don't you know Watters' kids read this forum?

But yeah this is an easy pass.

john2jer · Post #10 » by **john2jer** » Thu May 28, 2009 2:15 am

LOL!

A thread was posted on the trade forum asking what Love/#6/expiring could get us and the consensus was an all-star level wing, and that that package was a very good one. So we add in our BEST expiring and we get back a guy who will never be in an all-star discussion in his life, a bust, a decent center prospect? Yikes.

Go check out the thread to get an idea of what that package is worth.

the_bruce · Post #11 » by **the_bruce** » Thu May 28, 2009 2:48 am

horrific Im glad I didnt read this earlier.

GopherIt! · Post #12 » by **GopherIt!** » Thu May 28, 2009 7:59 am

I like Gasol but Jefferson is an undersized center. He can't guard PF's
and he plays inside on offense. Our best bet is to get a big bodied third wheel
who can hold his own against the Oden's of the world or a scrappy Camby type
who plays good help D and blocks shots.

Getting a shot at Evans, Harden, DeRozan (or Holliday

) at #6 is huge for us.

skorff26 · Post #13 » by **skorff26** » Thu May 28, 2009 11:58 am

One of the reasons I wouldn't do it is that Gay would really cut into our 2010 cap space because he would need to be resigned; that is one of the reasons that I wouldn't mind moving Foye for something like the #9 in the draft since we would have a player on their rookie deal instead of someone needing a large raise. (Also one of the reasons I'd consider Jefferson in a deal for the #2 overall pick)

And salary implications aside
Love > Gay
#6 =? Gasol
Miller>>Law