What danny needs to do this offseason to improve our bench

[Papa Irish31]

If I were Danny,

1. i would resign Baby at 3 to 4 mil for 4 years

2. get rid of tony, gabe, bill, and maybe JR for whatever you can get, and im not talking about players either im talking WHATEVER you can get just to get them off the team

3. sign the cheapest combination of any two of these players: Matt Barnes, Linus Kleiza, Grant Hill, Anthony Parker, Von Wafer, Morris Almond, Hakim Warrick, dahntey jones and Charlie Villanuva; if i had my pick it would be Morris Almond for real cheap and then one of the bigger names like charlie V, barnes, klieza, or warrick for around hopefully 1 to 2 mil

4. Spend the Rest of your MLE on a big man- Rasho, Mcdyess, gortat(no chance, if we think we can get him we might as well go after the birdman too) mihm, stromile swift- bottom line is with the exception of the first couple of guys, the free agent forward/centers class is extremely weak- i might be inclined to go back and sign two cheap options for the 2/3 role such as almond and parker or hill if he is willing to take vets min and then offer near max MLE to sheed

but i am inclined not to so i come out of free agency with something like kleiza, almond, and mcdyess or barnes, parker, and rasho, or almond charlie V, and mcdyess, basically whatever combination i think i can get to be the cheapest and most effective

5. I do what i do in the draft, and that means owning the second round

in the draft i look to move into the late first/early second round or buy a pick in the mid second and pick up a combination of players from the group of aj price, pat mills, jerel mcneal, josh heytvelt, danny green, jonas jerebko, darren collison i strongly look at some of the points to see if i can add a backup from the draft

the players i would select obviously depend on my activity in free agency

6. resign leon for a hometown/torn acl discount

end up with a team with a roster that would ideally (realistically speaking) look like this

pg: Rondo, price
sg:Allen, house, almond
sf:Pierce, Kleiza, Giddens
pf: KG, baby, powe
C:Perk, Rasho, Heytfelt

or some variation of that

[Papa Irish31]

oh and scal, how the eff could i leave him off?

[SonicYouth34]

This is the way most people think, except you're looiking at young players who haven't really proven much (Price, Almond?). Rasho is fine and fits great with Powe and Davis.

We need to keep Bill Walker. He has the talent to be a big time player in the league because of his athleticism and his strength. He could be a Paul Pierce type player.

I hope we can resign Steph because he lets house play the 2 while guarding the 1 and he also (as we saw in game 5) can still take over a game. With a full training camp he'll be better adjusted and he'll realize the bench is his to command.

We need a Pierce backup, someone like Posey. If we can't get this then the off season was a failure. We also need a real big and we need to bring Powe/Davis back.

The last thing we need is another prospect, so we should stash or 2nd pick overseas. We also have ~7-7 million in expirings, so we can add someone via trade. Some people have also suggested we trade Ray, but I say we only do that if we can get him back because his shooting off sets Rondo's lack of shooting.

If i had my way, I'd explore getting Gomes back. He's a good all around player that plays the 3/4 spot.

[Papa Irish31]

BIll Walker does not have the talent or game to be a paul pierce type player, first of all he is at least 2 inches shorter than pierce, he does not have a jump shot, no mid range game, can't shoot threes, he is not as good of a ball handler as pierce was in middle school

the only plus he adds to the offense is that he can dunk, he makes mental mistakes, and he is foul prone, and always injured

he is much closer to becoming the next tony allen than paul pierce

if any of our rookies resemble pierce it is giddens- he went to kansas, got stabbed in a bar fight, has a jump shot that looks pretty good, can shoot the three, is a streaky player, freakishly long arms, extremely athletic, good mid range game

if i was gambling on one of our rookies from last year panning out it would be JR, but i am not at all opposed to getting rid of all of them

[Frank Lucas]

During the summer of 2007 Danny Ainge hit on move he made. During the summer of 2008 I think Danny missed on every moved he made. It all started in the 2008 draft when Danny pass on the like of Mario Chalmers and L.R. Mbah a Moute and they draft JR Giddens. If the Cs drafted Chalmers there would have been no need to go after Steph and they could have drafted off Gabe for another 2nd round pick in this year draft or the 2010 draft. If he would have drafted Moute he would have replace the defense we lost in Posey. This leads me to my next point, Danny choice of going with Tony Allen over James Posey. I would loved for them to sign James Posey. If anything signing James Posey would have added another year or two to Paul Pierces career but Pierce would have played less minutes. Instead Danny and Doc tried to sale us on Tony Allen filling the role left my James Posey......Then we have the signing of POB, Mikki Moore and Steph. All three signing were a bust.

So what will Danny do this off-season? First, he must not follow up the mistake of letting Posey go last season with a mistake of over-paying for BBD. I like BBD but if he is looking for a big pay day I say so long see ya later. The Cs need to upgrade their back-up in the front court. McDyess and Chris Anderson would be nice pick-ups. I like Moon as a back-up for Pierce and I would bring Steph back because outside of Pargo I think Steph is the best back-up PG out there. That's if he would be at peace with being Rondo backup. I would also look to trade Tony Allen and Gabe long with cash to any team that would take them for a 2nd round pick. really outside of the top 5 guys on the team everyone else must go.

[Dave_From_NB]

During the summer of 2007 Danny Ainge hit on move he made.

Pollard as backup Center.
Drafting Pruitt.
Signing Posey for only 1 year.

A few moves I think he'd like back.

[SonicYouth34]

BIll Walker does not have the talent or game to be a paul pierce type player, first of all he is at least 2 inches shorter than pierce, he does not have a jump shot, no mid range game, can't shoot threes, he is not as good of a ball handler as pierce was in middle school

Are you sure you're not talking about Tony Allen? Bill is 6'6" and Pierce is 6'7". Bill has a solid mid range game, which he showed many times when he played. Plus he's a hard worker so the range will come with time. He has the potential to be good. He's not that great now, but in the future he could be a a second or third option. Bill is an excellent slasher and with his great strength can finish in traffic...doesn't that sound familiar?

DA did miss on LRMM in the 2008 draft when he drafted Giddens at 30. LRMM would be perfect because of his length, but his jumper needs work. I never understood why DA didn't draft Walker at 30.

the only plus he adds to the offense is that he can dunk, he makes mental mistakes, and he is foul prone, and always injured

Again, are you talking about TA? Bill was a rookie and a 2nd round pick to boot, he's supposed to make those mistakes.

[Papa Irish31]

what is funny is that tony was a better player than bill as a rookie, the reason you cannot tell the difference when i talk about Tony and bill is because they are virtually the same player, they are both leapers that play good D, they have no shot whatsoever, and do not pass well, they both make countless mental mistakes, and the only weapon they provide on the offensive is their ability to drive, and even that isnt special

Bill is gonna show flashes of greatness throughout his career but ultimately will be a great disappointment to anyone who thought he was going to be a starting caliber player; just like TA

[SonicYouth34]

Bill got almost no playing time all year and Tony averaged 17 mins a game and started a number of them. You can't pass judgment on Bill yet because he hasn't gotten any burn.

I've seen Bill play dozens of times when he was at K-State, he's got a great game and is gonna be a great pro, its just gonna take time.

Its also better to keep him then sign a player like Morris Almond who is a 15th man at best.

[GuyClinch]

TA statistically is well ahead of Walker.. TA was actually a pretty decent player for us during the regular season.. Walker in his very limited minutes was awful.. Now thats not fair to Walker because the sample size is so small. But the fact he couldn't really get much burn with TA out is problematic..

[SonicYouth34]

One thing I always for get about is the assistant coaching job. If Tom Tibbs leaves, then we're left with a lesser defense. I want him to be a head coach, but at the same time want him on the Celtics.

[Al-Haqq]

Not sure if people remember, but we actually signed Dahntay Jones in 2007 but Ainge released him.