With the 6th pick in the 2009 NBA draft, Minnesota selects

[PeeDee]

I'd like to announce the best plan ever.

Trade Miller, blah blah and whatever to Wash for the #5 pick

Draft Jrue Holiday, Earl Clark and BJ Mullens

This year you roll with

Jefferson/Mullens
Love/Smith
Clark/Gomes
Foye/Brewer
Holiday/Telfair


Next year draft Evan Freaking Turner

Jefferson, Love, Clark, Turner, Holiday

HAWT

[big3_8_19_21]

I'm hot for a Holiday/Henderson back court right now. DEFENSE!!!!

[JMillott]

For the ones saying to draft DeRozan and try to deal up for Holiday, you've simply got it backwards.

No chance in hell Holiday lasts beyond 8th or 9th if he doesn't go fourth and make it a dead issue.

DeRozan may very well slide out of the lottery and if he doesn't go after Evans, Henderson, Daye, etc.

If you wait to take the available PG's left you'll end up with Jennings, Lawson, Maynor, Mills or Collison. All of whom have some combo of defensive limitations, height limitations, questionable upside, etc.

Holiday is going to be at worst a very solid PG at both ends of the floor and because he can defend he'll actually get playing time from good coaches if they should hire one which will serve to speed his development.

PG is by far the biggest need on the entire roster right next to an overall lack of defense and absolutely no one in this draft addresses both needs better then Holiday.

[AQuintus]

For the ones saying to draft DeRozan and try to deal up for Holiday, you've simply got it backwards.

No chance in hell Holiday lasts beyond 8th or 9th if he doesn't go fourth and make it a dead issue.

DeRozan may very well slide out of the lottery and if he doesn't go after Evans, Henderson, Daye, etc.

Everything I'm hearing/reading says that DeRozan is absolutely going in the 5-9 range, and Holiday is going in the 4-13 range.

[JMillott]

For the ones saying to draft DeRozan and try to deal up for Holiday, you've simply got it backwards.

No chance in hell Holiday lasts beyond 8th or 9th if he doesn't go fourth and make it a dead issue.

DeRozan may very well slide out of the lottery and if he doesn't go after Evans, Henderson, Daye, etc.

Everything I'm hearing/reading says that DeRozan is absolutely going in the 5-9 range, and Holiday is going in the 4-13 range.

The only teams likely to draft a swingman in the top 9 are the Wolves and Raptors other then Harden. If the Wolves don't draft him then both DeRozan and Evans will fall to the Raptors at 9 who likely take one of them.

After that you're into the range the Wolves have a solid chance at moving up into with either DeRozan or Evans and Henderson, Daye, Clark, etc still around.

I'm perfectly happy with any of those guys as the net result of the 18th and 28th picks plus a expiring or two. I'm not ****ing at all happy with a Jennings, Lawson, Maynor, as the combined return on those picks.

I want Holiday 6th because in my eyes he is the best long term PG and most complete PG in this draft including Rubio. Now if I thought that Flynn would slide out of the top 10 it would be a different thing but i'm also fairly sure that if he did those teams would simply keep him for themselves.

Hell if the Kings do take Holiday i'm not sure that i'd not just draft Flynn and use the same gameplan.

[big3_8_19_21]

why so high on flynn?

[JMillott]

why so high on flynn?

I'm sold on Flynn being a very good offensive PG in the NBA even if he can't defend at the NBA level. I would in fact compare him to Terell Brandon in terms of upside as an offensive PG.

I'm sold on him being better then Jennings, Lawson, Maynor, Teague, etc as an offensive PG in this league far more then i'm sold on DeRozan or Evans being better then Clark, Henderson, Daye, Summers, Budinger, etc.

[Dewey]

Great ... another PG who can't play defense. That's Curry's issue as well, but he much better in other aspects of the game.

I can see Flynn at the #18 area...

[JMillott]

Great ... another PG who can't play defense. That's Curry's issue as well, but he much better in other aspects of the game.

I can see Flynn at the #18 area...

I'm not a fan of Curry at least not here in 'Sota.

To me Curry is the kind of PG you want if you've got a bigtime SG or SF who most of the offense will run through as a slasher that he can provide space for. The Wolves simply don't have anyone like that or with that type of potential on the entire roster right now. I understand he'll space the floor for Al Jefferson but its not like Al's biggest strength is ever going to be kicking out from a double team and Foye/Miller already provide spacing.

Flynn at least offensively makes a ton of sense here as he can get by just about if not any PG in the league at will with his speed, quickness, handle and has the physical strength and athletic ability to finish in the paint.

I strongly prefer Holiday because he can do those things plus has the size to shoot over most PG's in the league at will and physically match up with any PG in the league defensively between his size, speed, long arms, strength, etc. He has a complete game so unlike a Curry, Flynn, etc he can basically be paired up with any type of player so he doesn't handicap the Wolves from looking at any types of players going forward.

With a Flynn, Curry, Jennings, etc they force the Wolves to find impact defenders at other positions to make up for their lack of it. Jrue Holiday frees the Wolves to go either way in the future where they can hide a not so wonderful defender like Foye next to him or go with a Brewer type and have a sick defensive backcourt.

[invno1]

Griffen will prolly be the best player in this draft 5 years from now. but the second best just might be a surprise...prolly someone none of us are considering.

[JMillott]

Griffen will prolly be the best player in this draft 5 years from now. but the second best just might be a surprise...prolly someone none of us are considering.

I think it'll be Holiday in complete honesty but it wouldn't shock me if Clark, Blair or Daye ended up being huge steals as well.