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Game 6: Cavaliers @ Magic - Sat, May 30, 8:30pm [TNT]

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Re: Game 6: Cavaliers @ Magic - Sat, May 30, 8:30pm [TNT] 

Post#101 » by FreeBalling » Mon Jun 1, 2009 6:34 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:Yup, gotta love the bashing from Wiz fans. Good luck in the lottery. What's funny about this is that nobody seems as concerned with the fact that it appears that Mo was actually off the court before LeBron. Frankly, I don't care what he did after the game, it did what he could with his team while the series was going on. Wiz fans are bitter as always it seems.


Outlaw how would anyone know what was said, you edit everything. So it's hard to tell.

Manny Presh (SP) from your site visited the Wizards site and he took his thrashing like a man, he wanted to know why our MODS would ever let a thread call The Crab Walk start BTW it's still going today.

My answer to Manny P was, our MODS are way cooler than yours.

Nothing wrong with having an open discussion involving opinions and long as it kept clean. I post my thought that Stern wanted Kobe and Leborn so the CAVS will have the Refs and you call me a troll.

I'm a Basketball fan and the Cavs are the topic in the main stream.
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Re: Game 6: Cavaliers @ Magic - Sat, May 30, 8:30pm [TNT] 

Post#102 » by TheOUTLAW » Mon Jun 1, 2009 7:23 pm

Your mods aren't cooler, it's just that you don't get the vast number of trolls we get here. I'd have no problem with peope starting threads about how Arenas is a choker, Howard should be tossed out of about every game or that Kobe is a rapist etc. but for the most part Cavs fans don't roll like that. It's not as though Wiz mods are allowing posters who are fans of teams start threads talking about how much the Wiz suck.
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Re: Game 6: Cavaliers @ Magic - Sat, May 30, 8:30pm [TNT] 

Post#103 » by Cammo101 » Mon Jun 1, 2009 8:05 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:I finally went to the general board after avoiding it and I'm just astounded at how classless the Orlando fans are. They might be almost as bad as Wiz fans, of course doing it in a win does make it kinda worse.


What have Orlando fans been doing? Orlando fans have been defending LeBron and the Cavs from a bunch of random haters. I think you are confusing random haters with Orlando fans.
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Re: Game 6: Cavaliers @ Magic - Sat, May 30, 8:30pm [TNT] 

Post#104 » by doclinkin » Mon Jun 1, 2009 9:58 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:Your mods aren't cooler, it's just that you don't get the vast number of trolls we get here. I'd have no problem with peope starting threads about how Arenas is a choker, Howard should be tossed out of about every game or that Kobe is a rapist etc. but for the most part Cavs fans don't roll like that. It's not as though Wiz mods are allowing posters who are fans of teams start threads talking about how much the Wiz suck.


Actually we used to have a thread that allowed exactly that, but never re-started it after the re-set because it proved to have dangerous mojo -- we'd win the ballgame most everytime other people started the insult war. But when we bumped it ourselves, danger.

I highly recommend a 'trolls' thread on every board though. It's a good way to contain the nonsense and allow your wittier posters to unleash, unload on, and insult interlopers to the general amusement of all. All that is required is a first-page post that states that the TOS regarding 'respecting each others views' are relaxed in that thread and that thread only. In that thread 'respect' involves jibes and joneing on people, all in good fun/ Still no foul language etc. Just a congenial atmosphere of snark and barbs, enjoyed by all. Oddly it actually helped prevent foolish behavior in other threads.

As for this thread. I'm torn between classy behavior and joining the worms feasting on the corpses of great men. The Haw-haw-ing Nelson Muntzes of the interwebs. It's tough to be a good loser, and LeBron to his credit lacks practice at it. But it was regrettable that LeBron defended his behavior after the fact and earns yet more enemies who might deride him as a self-bloated colostomy bag. Whatever happy shadenfruede I might feel as a fan from an opposing team is tainted by the surety that non-fans of the NBA will latch onto yet another reason why all NBAers are classless worthless individuals and bal bla bla.

The guy is not used to losing, doesn't know how to react well, is highly competitive. It would humanize him if he'd come out the next day and simply said:

"I was an ass -- it kills me to lose and I was pretty sure I wouldn't have liked whatever came out my mouth at that point. But today I can say, we got beat by a really good team, and I wish them well, at least until next year when I plan to load up and destroy them. Either way they have my respect, no shame that we got beat, it just means we're not quite as good as we need to be. And that's on me, my teammates, my front office. Hey it's a reality check. I hate it, but maybe long term it's the best thing that could have happened to us. We'll see..."

Sports are a civil substitute for war. For irrational nationalism, or the local equivalent. I've been through Cleveland twice as a kid. Your bus station is as nice as any other, there's no real hate or animosity, it's just fun to pretend. A man with incredible talent showed a momentary weakness of character, still in the denial stage of grieving, of loss. Those things are understandable. But we shake hands to remind ourselves that it's a game after all, not war. That we're cooperating in competition for the enrichment of all. Someone's got to win, someone's got to get beat, that's life. The lesson lies in how you handle it, what you do next. But it''s a learning experience. LeBron's still sometimes just a full grown baby man, if he's occasionally immature in his reactions, well he's still young. I expect down the road he'll end up better for it.

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Re: Game 6: Cavaliers @ Magic - Sat, May 30, 8:30pm [TNT] 

Post#105 » by TheOUTLAW » Mon Jun 1, 2009 10:11 pm

I do agree that while I know no one that likes losing after the fact, LeBron should have just apologized and it'd be over with. Defending it actually gave it legs. That being said, I think the entire thing is completely overblown.
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Re: Game 6: Cavaliers @ Magic - Sat, May 30, 8:30pm [TNT] 

Post#106 » by Hilltop » Tue Jun 2, 2009 1:58 am

In fact, I don't think an apology was absolutely necessary even. To me at least, it would be just fine if he justified it by saying he was simply "Pissed off" or something as simple as that. Some people will accept it some won't, but it's emotion and I'd be able to deal with it.

Overblown as it may be, the way he went around his statements warranted that unfortunately. When a player of his stature speaks, it will make waves. And in this case, he just said the wrong things.

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