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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#62 » by Worm Guts » Mon Jun 1, 2009 5:05 pm

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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#63 » by pj_tor » Mon Jun 1, 2009 6:40 pm

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Yes you did. You implied that Rubio was a good Euroleague player. Again he is not. He is a good Spanish League player.


Yeah, well, that's like saying Tayshaun Prince is a good NBA player but not a good Olympic Games player.

Give the kid a break. How many Euroleague games has he played? I'm gonna tell you: 21

16 games in 2006-2007: being 16 years old he averaged 3.3 assists and 3.45 steals (stat leader) in 18 mpg. You probably remember that 7 assist 7 steals game against your "beloved" Panathinaikos and a 5 reb 3 ast 7 stl game against Olympiacos. I'm sure you were wondering where on earth had that kid come from. This Euroleague season contributed a lot to his fast increasing hype.

5 games in 2008-2009: played 5 games with just one hand, failing to log more than 10 minutes in 3 of those games. So the stats are irrelevant.

So technically you probably can't say he is a good euroleague player but you certainly can't say the opposite. But you and I don't have the slightest doubt that given consistent playing time on a team that consistently made it to the Euroleague Rubio's stats would be as good as the ones he has on the ACB. Because yes, ACB stats translate pretty well to the Euroleague.

So it's not that he didn't do great in Euroleague (steals leader at 16 is not bad though), it's that playing limited minutes in 21 games he hasn't had the opportunity to show anything. Just to make your point more precise.

And the things people say about Jennings... I truly haven't seen him play, but from what everybody says he didn't perform great on the Italian league, which is not even top 2 in domestic euro leagues. His Euroleague stats are similar I think. But I don't think it's fair to call him a bust or say that the stats are shameful and translate into an NBA bench warmer. Give him a break too, he is a kid playing totally different basketball in a far away country. He will get better, just give him some time before passing judgement on him.


Nope. His team is a small club and it's not even a very good club. It's a mid level ACB club without much money to spend. Put Rubio on a big Euroleague club like PAO, CSKA, Olympiacos and he would barely even get playing time. Also Rubio did not lead the Euroleague in steals. That's another MYTH that has been created by Spanish homers. Prigioni is the official steals leader of the Euroleague in 2007. That is a fact.


http://www.euroleague.net/item/44616

Rubio 3,5 steals per game
Prigioni 2,9 steals per game

You can't even get this one right. Not too brilliant for a 197 IQ guy. It's a fact.

And the fact that he is on a small club (5th in the ACB, that's in the highest tier by European standards, but I give it to you) doesn't mean he is not a good Euroleague player. By any means. And you are speculating on his playing time in those clubs. Ironic enough, he will probably play 25-30 minutes per game in the NBA this year, so I don't think he is not good enough for the clubs you mentioned
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#64 » by john2jer » Mon Jun 1, 2009 6:44 pm

Thank you for the link to this thread. I just had the greatest lunchbreak I've ever had at work. I laughed, I cried, but I mostly laughed.

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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#65 » by KWSN-Men » Mon Jun 1, 2009 10:27 pm

Alfred wrote:The chance that he has an IQ of 197, his mother had an IQ of 197 and her father had an IQ of 200 is slim to the point of being completely unbelievable. You are talking about something in the range of one in a trillion++, or more than the number of people that have ever existed.

If you count his father being a genius as well, the denominator becomes even more astronomical.


My father was a rocket scientist. He is the one that designed the stealth system on the stealth bomber. My mother is a secretary (secretary is the highest IQ profession there is on average). My mother's father taught calculus at college at age 12. He was also a partner with JPL and Howard Hughes and helped to develop the rocket engine.

If you don't believe it so what? To each his own.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#66 » by KWSN-Men » Mon Jun 1, 2009 10:31 pm

pj_tor wrote:http://www.euroleague.net/item/44616

Rubio 3,5 steals per game
Prigioni 2,9 steals per game

You can't even get this one right. Not too brilliant for a 197 IQ guy. It's a fact.

And the fact that he is on a small club (5th in the ACB, that's in the highest tier by European standards, but I give it to you) doesn't mean he is not a good Euroleague player. By any means. And you are speculating on his playing time in those clubs. Ironic enough, he will probably play 25-30 minutes per game in the NBA this year, so I don't think he is not good enough for the clubs you mentioned


WRONG.

The season leader in steals in the Euroleague in 2006-07 was Pablo Prigioni. FACT.

Proven:

http://www.euroleague.net/main/statisti ... tegories=6

1. Pablo Prigioni 2.48

It is a MYTH created by Spanish homers that Rubio led the Euroleague in steals. He did not. The official steals leader of the Euroleague for the 2006-07 season was Pablo Prigioni.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#67 » by Genjuro » Mon Jun 1, 2009 10:47 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:My father was a rocket scientist.

Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that you haven't inheritaged your father's inteligency. Perhaps he should have devoted less time to stealth bombers and more time to your education.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#68 » by Alfred » Mon Jun 1, 2009 11:45 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:
pj_tor wrote:http://www.euroleague.net/item/44616

Rubio 3,5 steals per game
Prigioni 2,9 steals per game

You can't even get this one right. Not too brilliant for a 197 IQ guy. It's a fact.

And the fact that he is on a small club (5th in the ACB, that's in the highest tier by European standards, but I give it to you) doesn't mean he is not a good Euroleague player. By any means. And you are speculating on his playing time in those clubs. Ironic enough, he will probably play 25-30 minutes per game in the NBA this year, so I don't think he is not good enough for the clubs you mentioned


WRONG.

The season leader in steals in the Euroleague in 2006-07 was Pablo Prigioni. FACT.

Proven:

http://www.euroleague.net/main/statisti ... tegories=6

1. Pablo Prigioni 2.48

It is a MYTH created by Spanish homers that Rubio led the Euroleague in steals. He did not. The official steals leader of the Euroleague for the 2006-07 season was Pablo Prigioni.


I did a little research, and found on the same site that you credited that in 16 Euroleague games in 2006/2007, Ricky Rubio had 51 steals, or the equivilant of 3.1 steals per game.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/p ... ?pcode=LFW

Please explain this discrepency.

Furthermore, I do not believe your statement that you, your mother and her father had IQs of 197, 197 and 200 respectively, as the chances of this would be absurdly small. The chance that you are making it up, in my mind, is far more likely.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#69 » by Genjuro » Mon Jun 1, 2009 11:50 pm

Alfred wrote:I did a little research, and found on the same site that you credited that in 16 Euroleague games in 2006/2007, Ricky Rubio had 51 steals, or the equivilant of 3.1 steals per game.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/p ... ?pcode=LFW

Please explain this discrepency.

It seems like 16 games were not enough to qualify for the official stats. Which brings absurd results, since he's the third player in total steals but does not appear in the average ranking. Euroleague...
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#70 » by Star-Lord » Mon Jun 1, 2009 11:51 pm

KWSN-Men wrote:
My father was a rocket scientist. He is the one that designed the stealth system on the stealth bomber. My mother is a secretary (secretary is the highest IQ profession there is on average). My mother's father taught calculus at college at age 12. He was also a partner with JPL and Howard Hughes and helped to develop the rocket engine.

If you don't believe it so what? To each his own.


Wow kid... Just, wow... You're so far off base, on so many levels... It would be pathetic if you didn't make it so funny.

Rocket science has almost nothing to do with stealth technology, which is based primarily on RCS reductions... Besides, no one man developed the technology. Stealth technology as it pertains to military aeronautics, as we've come to know it, was developed by the Lockheed Corporation for the U.S. government under the Reagan administration.

Did your dad invent the Sham Wow, too?
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#71 » by Alfred » Mon Jun 1, 2009 11:57 pm

Genjuro wrote:
Alfred wrote:I did a little research, and found on the same site that you credited that in 16 Euroleague games in 2006/2007, Ricky Rubio had 51 steals, or the equivilant of 3.1 steals per game.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/p ... ?pcode=LFW

Please explain this discrepency.

It seems like 16 games were not enough to qualify for the official stats. Which brings absurd results, since he's the third player in total steals but does not appear in the average ranking. Euroleague...


That explains it. Can you believe those SPANISH HOMERS who actually use that data to support Ricky Rubio?
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#72 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Jun 1, 2009 11:59 pm

CCIIIs Hair wrote:
KWSN-Men wrote:
My father was a rocket scientist. He is the one that designed the stealth system on the stealth bomber. My mother is a secretary (secretary is the highest IQ profession there is on average). My mother's father taught calculus at college at age 12. He was also a partner with JPL and Howard Hughes and helped to develop the rocket engine.

If you don't believe it so what? To each his own.


Did your dad invent the Sham Wow, too?

Well let's deduce with facts. The Sham Wow is made by Germans. Talk Basket is Greek, no?
Therefore it is highly unlikely his father invented the Sham Wow.
Now the Smart Clip, that's a different story.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#73 » by Star-Lord » Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:00 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
CCIIIs Hair wrote:
KWSN-Men wrote:
My father was a rocket scientist. He is the one that designed the stealth system on the stealth bomber. My mother is a secretary (secretary is the highest IQ profession there is on average). My mother's father taught calculus at college at age 12. He was also a partner with JPL and Howard Hughes and helped to develop the rocket engine.

If you don't believe it so what? To each his own.


Did your dad invent the Sham Wow, too?

Well let's deduce with facts. The Sham Wow is made by Germans. Talk Basket is Greek, no?
Therefore it is highly unlikely his father invented the Sham Wow.
Now the Smart Clip, that's a different story.


I didn't realize the Greeks invented stealth bombers, either.

Then again; my IQ is a pedestrian 138, so what do I know?
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#74 » by casey » Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:30 am

KWSN-Men wrote:
Alfred wrote:The chance that he has an IQ of 197, his mother had an IQ of 197 and her father had an IQ of 200 is slim to the point of being completely unbelievable. You are talking about something in the range of one in a trillion++, or more than the number of people that have ever existed.

If you count his father being a genius as well, the denominator becomes even more astronomical.


My father was a rocket scientist. He is the one that designed the stealth system on the stealth bomber. My mother is a secretary (secretary is the highest IQ profession there is on average). My mother's father taught calculus at college at age 12. He was also a partner with JPL and Howard Hughes and helped to develop the rocket engine.

If you don't believe it so what? To each his own.

I would expect someone with an IQ of 197 to realize that nobody will believe that he has an IQ of 197 without proof. And that simply stating again that your IQ is that high won't change a single person's mind.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#75 » by Alfred » Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:32 am

As I said before, the chances that him, his mother and her father had an IQ of ~200 are so microscopically low that they can essentially be discounted completely.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#76 » by KWSN-Men » Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:45 am

Alfred wrote:
KWSN-Men wrote:
pj_tor wrote:http://www.euroleague.net/item/44616

Rubio 3,5 steals per game
Prigioni 2,9 steals per game

You can't even get this one right. Not too brilliant for a 197 IQ guy. It's a fact.

And the fact that he is on a small club (5th in the ACB, that's in the highest tier by European standards, but I give it to you) doesn't mean he is not a good Euroleague player. By any means. And you are speculating on his playing time in those clubs. Ironic enough, he will probably play 25-30 minutes per game in the NBA this year, so I don't think he is not good enough for the clubs you mentioned


WRONG.

The season leader in steals in the Euroleague in 2006-07 was Pablo Prigioni. FACT.

Proven:

http://www.euroleague.net/main/statisti ... tegories=6

1. Pablo Prigioni 2.48

It is a MYTH created by Spanish homers that Rubio led the Euroleague in steals. He did not. The official steals leader of the Euroleague for the 2006-07 season was Pablo Prigioni.


I did a little research, and found on the same site that you credited that in 16 Euroleague games in 2006/2007, Ricky Rubio had 51 steals, or the equivilant of 3.1 steals per game.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/p ... ?pcode=LFW

Please explain this discrepency.


There is NO discrepancy. Rubio was the leader of just one phase of the season. The SEASON LEAGUE LEADER was Prigioni. It is a LIE to claim that "Rubio led the Euroleague in steals" when he did not. Rubio DID NOT QUALIFY to lead the league in steals. He did NOT play enough games to qualify.

I don't know how else more clearly it can be put.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#77 » by KWSN-Men » Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:48 am

CCIIIs Hair wrote:
KWSN-Men wrote:
My father was a rocket scientist. He is the one that designed the stealth system on the stealth bomber. My mother is a secretary (secretary is the highest IQ profession there is on average). My mother's father taught calculus at college at age 12. He was also a partner with JPL and Howard Hughes and helped to develop the rocket engine.

If you don't believe it so what? To each his own.


Wow kid... Just, wow... You're so far off base, on so many levels... It would be pathetic if you didn't make it so funny.

Rocket science has almost nothing to do with stealth technology, which is based primarily on RCS reductions... Besides, no one man developed the technology. Stealth technology as it pertains to military aeronautics, as we've come to know it, was developed by the Lockheed Corporation for the U.S. government under the Reagan administration.

Did your dad invent the Sham Wow, too?


My father invented the equation that allowed stealth technology. Wow kid just wow.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#78 » by KWSN-Men » Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:50 am

Alfred wrote:
Genjuro wrote:
Alfred wrote:I did a little research, and found on the same site that you credited that in 16 Euroleague games in 2006/2007, Ricky Rubio had 51 steals, or the equivilant of 3.1 steals per game.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/p ... ?pcode=LFW

Please explain this discrepency.

It seems like 16 games were not enough to qualify for the official stats. Which brings absurd results, since he's the third player in total steals but does not appear in the average ranking. Euroleague...


That explains it. Can you believe those SPANISH HOMERS who actually use that data to support Ricky Rubio?


If an NBA fan rigorously claimed that a guy led the NBA in steals when he FACTUALLY did not, would the site mods have an issue with it? Would it be fine to argue with other members and call them out over it when they were making up that the guy led the NBA in steals?

Or would the mods side up with the guy that was wrongly claiming he led the NBA in steals? Is there a site policy that says there should be a double standard? You should accurately post who led the NBA in steals, but when it comes to the Euroleague just make up whatever you want?
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#79 » by KWSN-Men » Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:51 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
CCIIIs Hair wrote:
KWSN-Men wrote:
My father was a rocket scientist. He is the one that designed the stealth system on the stealth bomber. My mother is a secretary (secretary is the highest IQ profession there is on average). My mother's father taught calculus at college at age 12. He was also a partner with JPL and Howard Hughes and helped to develop the rocket engine.

If you don't believe it so what? To each his own.


Did your dad invent the Sham Wow, too?

Well let's deduce with facts. The Sham Wow is made by Germans. Talk Basket is Greek, no?
Therefore it is highly unlikely his father invented the Sham Wow.
Now the Smart Clip, that's a different story.


I'm not Greek. I have explained it over and over that I am of Basque heritage.
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Re: Brandon Jennings 2008-09 European Season Stats 

Post#80 » by KWSN-Men » Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:52 am

casey wrote:
KWSN-Men wrote:
Alfred wrote:The chance that he has an IQ of 197, his mother had an IQ of 197 and her father had an IQ of 200 is slim to the point of being completely unbelievable. You are talking about something in the range of one in a trillion++, or more than the number of people that have ever existed.

If you count his father being a genius as well, the denominator becomes even more astronomical.


My father was a rocket scientist. He is the one that designed the stealth system on the stealth bomber. My mother is a secretary (secretary is the highest IQ profession there is on average). My mother's father taught calculus at college at age 12. He was also a partner with JPL and Howard Hughes and helped to develop the rocket engine.

If you don't believe it so what? To each his own.

I would expect someone with an IQ of 197 to realize that nobody will believe that he has an IQ of 197 without proof. And that simply stating again that your IQ is that high won't change a single person's mind.


Did you think I actually thought anyone here would believe it? It's true. That's all that matters to me.

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