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Re: Detroit deal? 

Post#21 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Jun 6, 2009 3:14 am

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Wrongo.

There are no good free agents for this team at all this year. This team needs a FA around 27 maybe 28 or younger. Mainly because by the time #4, Hawes, Thompson are able to contribute to a championship team, our FA would be too old already. Boozer is the only possible candidate and he is no where near worth the money it will take to obtain him.

Cap Space Trade - Pointless. The "big names" that might demand a trade this year, are all players that will be FA's this summer. That being the case, if we do trade for them, we will only have them for half a year. Our team is no where near the level it will take to keep a Max FA in Sac. We would have to prove that we are the best option for that FA and he would have his best chance at winning a title. We can't do that.


I think you really, really underrate the money factor. The truth is most of the big name FA's will probably re-sign with the team that can offer that 6th year and biggest yearly increases, just like almost EVERY year.
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Re: Detroit deal? 

Post#22 » by KF10 » Sat Jun 6, 2009 3:18 am

Screw this year's FA and go very hard for Joe Johnson in 2010. We all KNOW that the Hawks management will **** up eventually. :)
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Re: Detroit deal? 

Post#23 » by deNIEd » Sat Jun 6, 2009 3:44 am

SacKingZZZ wrote:
deNIEd wrote:

Wrongo.

There are no good free agents for this team at all this year. This team needs a FA around 27 maybe 28 or younger. Mainly because by the time #4, Hawes, Thompson are able to contribute to a championship team, our FA would be too old already. Boozer is the only possible candidate and he is no where near worth the money it will take to obtain him.

Cap Space Trade - Pointless. The "big names" that might demand a trade this year, are all players that will be FA's this summer. That being the case, if we do trade for them, we will only have them for half a year. Our team is no where near the level it will take to keep a Max FA in Sac. We would have to prove that we are the best option for that FA and he would have his best chance at winning a title. We can't do that.


I think you really, really underrate the money factor. The truth is most of the big name FA's will probably re-sign with the team that can offer that 6th year and biggest yearly increases, just like almost EVERY year.


There are only a handful of players that will be bought by the money factor, Boozer being 1.

And your logic is completely flawed. Every player that typically demands/will demand for a trade is doing so because they aren't happy with their current team's performance and future. As of now, Sacramento has the worst future in the entire league. Worst record = worst team.

Bosh isn't going to demand for a trade, end up in Sacramento, and not walk simply because the "money" is here. If he solely cared about the money, he'd stay in Toronto.


Yes the money is important, but so is the chance of winning. Any player that cares more about money than playing for a title is a worthless player and shouldn't be sought after.
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Re: Detroit deal? 

Post#24 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Jun 6, 2009 9:25 am

deNIEd wrote:
There are only a handful of players that will be bought by the money factor, Boozer being 1.

And your logic is completely flawed. Every player that typically demands/will demand for a trade is doing so because they aren't happy with their current team's performance and future. As of now, Sacramento has the worst future in the entire league. Worst record = worst team.

Bosh isn't going to demand for a trade, end up in Sacramento, and not walk simply because the "money" is here. If he solely cared about the money, he'd stay in Toronto.


Yes the money is important, but so is the chance of winning. Any player that cares more about money than playing for a title is a worthless player and shouldn't be sought after.



And your logic is entirely conclusory. A lot of times you have behind the scenes issues of teams not necessarily wanting to overpay for those players, or give them the money the player thinks they deserve. Players often don't like signing extensions, and possibly in the case of Bosh, for one reason... MONEY. They know if they enter the fray of FA they can become much stronger at the bargaining table. It's not necessarily always about money, but don't forget, these guys are big business, and more than a few, actually pretty much all, have this little cretinous thing attached to their nads like a festering blister called an agent. You say you don't like a player that cares more about money, well I say I don't like a player that gives up on his franchise and wants out because their losing when that player should maybe look in the mirror before placing blame elsewhere.

Every big FA period it's the same thing, "Oh so and so's going to go here, or there, they want out!, blah, blah, blah" and then NOTHING.
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Re: Detroit deal? 

Post#25 » by darkadun » Mon Jun 8, 2009 3:40 pm

I think we wait to sign a "Major FA", and let the young players grow up a little bit. If they grow up, and gain experience the next few years, the signing of a few FA after that makes more sense and could really round out that team and possibly push us over the top.
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