ImageImageImage

Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen

Moderators: bwgood77, Qwigglez, lilfishi22

JMac1
Suns Forum Training Specialist
Posts: 10,032
And1: 4,004
Joined: May 23, 2009

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#101 » by JMac1 » Sat Jun 6, 2009 2:00 am

Give me Yi, Anderson, Simmons and the #11. Let Shaq expire in 2010. That is a savings of 31 Million dollars. Yi and Anderson are perfect for our offense, we draft a Holiday (Carbon Copy of Rondo) and Earl Clark at 14. We could trade Shaq for Chandler and have a savings of 19 million.

Nash/Flynn/Dragic
JRich/LB/Dud
Hill/Clark/Dud/Yi
Anderson/YI/Lou
Chandler/ Lopez

Look at that second team.

Flynn
LB
Clark 6'10
Yi 7'0
Lopez 7'0
User avatar
RaisingArizona
RealGM
Posts: 15,787
And1: 7,669
Joined: Apr 23, 2009
 

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#102 » by RaisingArizona » Sat Jun 6, 2009 4:41 am

Make it Amare& J-rich for Rondo and Allen and I do it. I'd much rather keep Barbosa over j-rich.
Image
User avatar
TASTIC
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,410
And1: 2,425
Joined: May 17, 2004
Location: New Zealand
   

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#103 » by TASTIC » Sat Jun 6, 2009 4:46 am

^ HELL no. I hate this Rondo bollocks. As SDU said, you don't trade big for small...

If you move Amare, there has to be a BIG coming back

I still see the CHI deal as the most likely...either Ty and Deng, or Ty and Hinrich...and I bet we have to throw in #14 or some cash...
User avatar
RaisingArizona
RealGM
Posts: 15,787
And1: 7,669
Joined: Apr 23, 2009
 

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#104 » by RaisingArizona » Sat Jun 6, 2009 5:05 am

TASTIC wrote:^ HELL no. I hate this Rondo bollocks. As SDU said, you don't trade big for small...

If you move Amare, there has to be a BIG coming back

I still see the CHI deal as the most likely...either Ty and Deng, or Ty and Hinrich...and I bet we have to throw in #14 or some cash...


Yeah obviously we'd have to make other deals as well but Rondo is legit. He's going to be a yearly all star point guard that will lead a team. Allen is also the perfect fit for this team. We'd have to either draft bigs or trade shaq for chandler, etc.
Image
User avatar
TASTIC
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,410
And1: 2,425
Joined: May 17, 2004
Location: New Zealand
   

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#105 » by TASTIC » Sat Jun 6, 2009 5:30 am

I guess I just hate Rondo

Such a punk in the playoffs...Garnett is that team, and this year showed it
JMac1
Suns Forum Training Specialist
Posts: 10,032
And1: 4,004
Joined: May 23, 2009

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#106 » by JMac1 » Sat Jun 6, 2009 6:10 am

I like this,

Suns get:
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler

Hornets get:
Shaq

Celtics get:
J-Rich
James Posey
14th Pick
57th Pick

Best deal to date. NO gets 20 million in expiring.
Boston gets JRich (If KG can get Ray to play defense, he can get JRich to play defense), 6yrs younger, get a bench player back, plus the 14th and 57th.
We get Ray to play for one year, then 19 million expiring 2010, plus a defensive center and keep Amare. Ray, Grant are wing defenders, Ty is our interior defender.

Nash/Dragic
Allen/LB
Hill/Dudley
Amare/Lou
Chandler/Lopez

Boston

Rondo
JRich
Pierce
Amare
KG
User avatar
Kerrsed
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 29,876
And1: 16,578
Joined: Mar 31, 2009
Location: Land of the Internet Memes
Contact:
     

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#107 » by Kerrsed » Sat Jun 6, 2009 6:11 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Make it Amare& J-rich for Rondo and Allen and I do it. I'd much rather keep Barbosa over j-rich.


As i mentioned before : Amare & J-RICH for Rondo, Allen, Perkins. With BOS having Garnett and Amare, Perkins would be coming off the bench, where here we would use him to start. It helps solve their "Log Jam"at the big position. The trade also works on the ESPN trade machine. :D :D

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lk648y
Its #DUMPSTERFIRE SEASON! #TeamTRAINWRECK -KERRSED- The Mod, The Myth, The Legend
Image
nanoclarkology
Pro Prospect
Posts: 795
And1: 0
Joined: Oct 04, 2007
     

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#108 » by nanoclarkology » Sat Jun 6, 2009 6:15 am

The thing is even though we have drafted Rondo and Deng. They would not have been the same player they are now. Because they would of played under a different strategy and different system. They would of focused on different things.

I don't want Rondo. The only deal I would talk about with the Celtics is Shaq for Perkins and whatever in between to make it work. That is all. I am done talking about trades until something is done or there is some real evidence. Screw NY Media, Gambo&Ash, and Poopsworld.

Go Suns!
User avatar
TASTIC
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,410
And1: 2,425
Joined: May 17, 2004
Location: New Zealand
   

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#109 » by TASTIC » Sat Jun 6, 2009 6:23 am

JMac1 wrote:I like this,

Suns get:
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler

Hornets get:
Shaq

Celtics get:
J-Rich
James Posey
14th Pick
57th Pick

Best deal to date. NO gets 20 million in expiring.
Boston gets JRich (If KG can get Ray to play defense, he can get JRich to play defense), 6yrs younger, get a bench player back, plus the 14th and 57th.
We get Ray to play for one year, then 19 million expiring 2010, plus a defensive center and keep Amare. Ray, Grant are wing defenders, Ty is our interior defender.

Nash/Dragic
Allen/LB
Hill/Dudley
Amare/Lou
Chandler/Lopez

Boston

Rondo
JRich
Pierce
Amare
KG

I like that A LOT...NOR might need one of those picks...BOS would love Posey back and JRich would be a good fit there as a spot up shooter and a first option at times

Don't think BOS need the 14th though...JRich and Posey is a good return for Ray Ray

And yeah, you got Amare on BOS^^ haha, assume they still start KG and Perkins up front?
JPHX
Freshman
Posts: 99
And1: 4
Joined: Feb 10, 2009

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#110 » by JPHX » Sat Jun 6, 2009 6:31 am

JMac1 wrote:I like this,

Suns get:
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler

Hornets get:
Shaq

Celtics get:
J-Rich
James Posey
14th Pick
57th Pick

Best deal to date. NO gets 20 million in expiring.
Boston gets JRich (If KG can get Ray to play defense, he can get JRich to play defense), 6yrs younger, get a bench player back, plus the 14th and 57th.
We get Ray to play for one year, then 19 million expiring 2010, plus a defensive center and keep Amare. Ray, Grant are wing defenders, Ty is our interior defender.

Nash/Dragic
Allen/LB
Hill/Dudley
Amare/Lou
Chandler/Lopez

Boston

Rondo
JRich
Pierce
Amare
KG


somebody has been reading the pro sports daily threads. am i right???
User avatar
RaisingArizona
RealGM
Posts: 15,787
And1: 7,669
Joined: Apr 23, 2009
 

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#111 » by RaisingArizona » Sat Jun 6, 2009 7:14 am

TASTIC wrote:I guess I just hate Rondo

Such a punk in the playoffs...Garnett is that team, and this year showed it


I agree, he is a punk. I think he's somebody you hate if he's on the other team, but like when he's on your team.
Image
User avatar
6_Rings
RealGM
Posts: 26,761
And1: 2,891
Joined: Apr 08, 2003
Contact:
 

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#112 » by 6_Rings » Sat Jun 6, 2009 1:38 pm

maybe a smokescreen for Nash for Rondo+others. ;)

KG guaranteed a championship the next couple of seasons. the Celtics aint a young team maybe the goal is win now.

find a way to throw in Shaq...

goosebumps...

Nash,Allen,Pierce,KG,Shaq.
El Turco wrote:Nothing wrong with men shaking their ass while other men in tights jump on top of each other.
User avatar
rsavaj
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 24,863
And1: 2,767
Joined: May 09, 2007
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#113 » by rsavaj » Sat Jun 6, 2009 2:47 pm

JMac1 wrote:I like this,

Suns get:
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler

Hornets get:
Shaq

Celtics get:
J-Rich
James Posey
14th Pick
57th Pick

Best deal to date. NO gets 20 million in expiring.
Boston gets JRich (If KG can get Ray to play defense, he can get JRich to play defense), 6yrs younger, get a bench player back, plus the 14th and 57th.
We get Ray to play for one year, then 19 million expiring 2010, plus a defensive center and keep Amare. Ray, Grant are wing defenders, Ty is our interior defender.

Nash/Dragic
Allen/LB
Hill/Dudley
Amare/Lou
Chandler/Lopez

Boston

Rondo
JRich
Pierce
Amare
KG


:thumbsup:
Fo-Real
General Manager
Posts: 9,771
And1: 5,481
Joined: Mar 21, 2009
     

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#114 » by Fo-Real » Sat Jun 6, 2009 2:54 pm

rsavaj wrote:
JMac1 wrote:I like this,

Suns get:
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler

Hornets get:
Shaq

Celtics get:
J-Rich
James Posey
14th Pick
57th Pick

Best deal to date. NO gets 20 million in expiring.
Boston gets JRich (If KG can get Ray to play defense, he can get JRich to play defense), 6yrs younger, get a bench player back, plus the 14th and 57th.
We get Ray to play for one year, then 19 million expiring 2010, plus a defensive center and keep Amare. Ray, Grant are wing defenders, Ty is our interior defender.

Nash/Dragic
Allen/LB
Hill/Dudley
Amare/Lou
Chandler/Lopez

Boston

Rondo
JRich
Pierce
Amare
KG


:thumbsup:

Would love to run with that for next year, LOVE IT!!!! please let it happen!!!!
User avatar
rsavaj
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 24,863
And1: 2,767
Joined: May 09, 2007
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#115 » by rsavaj » Sat Jun 6, 2009 3:13 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
rsavaj wrote:
JMac1 wrote:I like this,

Suns get:
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler

Hornets get:
Shaq

Celtics get:
J-Rich
James Posey
14th Pick
57th Pick

Best deal to date. NO gets 20 million in expiring.
Boston gets JRich (If KG can get Ray to play defense, he can get JRich to play defense), 6yrs younger, get a bench player back, plus the 14th and 57th.
We get Ray to play for one year, then 19 million expiring 2010, plus a defensive center and keep Amare. Ray, Grant are wing defenders, Ty is our interior defender.

Nash/Dragic
Allen/LB
Hill/Dudley
Amare/Lou
Chandler/Lopez

Boston

Rondo
JRich
Pierce
Amare
KG


:thumbsup:

Would love to run with that for next year, LOVE IT!!!! please let it happen!!!!


any way we can fax this to kerr? oh dirty bird, how i miss you

14th pick might be overkill though...i don't mind adding both of our 2nds, but we need that 14th pick
User avatar
JohnVancouver
General Manager
Posts: 9,016
And1: 236
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#116 » by JohnVancouver » Sat Jun 6, 2009 9:15 pm

6_Rings wrote:maybe a smokescreen for Nash for Rondo+others. ;)

KG guaranteed a championship the next couple of seasons. the Celtics aint a young team maybe the goal is win now.

find a way to throw in Shaq...

goosebumps...

Nash,Allen,Pierce,KG,Shaq.



-- what's the significance of the video in your avatar?
"Deng and Mozgov was some 1980s Clippers sh*t. So, so dumb" - Sedale Threatt

"If you can't get banned for threatening to rape a mod, what can you get banned for?" Jigga_Man/2013

"Everybody love Everybody." - Jackie Moon
JMac1
Suns Forum Training Specialist
Posts: 10,032
And1: 4,004
Joined: May 23, 2009

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#117 » by JMac1 » Sat Jun 6, 2009 10:17 pm

TASTIC wrote:
JMac1 wrote:I like this,

Suns get:
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler

Hornets get:
Shaq

Celtics get:
J-Rich
James Posey
14th Pick
57th Pick

Best deal to date. NO gets 20 million in expiring.
Boston gets JRich (If KG can get Ray to play defense, he can get JRich to play defense), 6yrs younger, get a bench player back, plus the 14th and 57th.
We get Ray to play for one year, then 19 million expiring 2010, plus a defensive center and keep Amare. Ray, Grant are wing defenders, Ty is our interior defender.

Nash/Dragic
Allen/LB
Hill/Dudley
Amare/Lou
Chandler/Lopez

Boston

Rondo
JRich
Pierce
Amare
KG

I like that A LOT...NOR might need one of those picks...BOS would love Posey back and JRich would be a good fit there as a spot up shooter and a first option at times

Don't think BOS need the 14th though...JRich and Posey is a good return for Ray Ray

And yeah, you got Amare on BOS^^ haha, assume they still start KG and Perkins up front?


Yup!
User avatar
rsavaj
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 24,863
And1: 2,767
Joined: May 09, 2007
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#118 » by rsavaj » Sat Jun 6, 2009 11:20 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:
6_Rings wrote:maybe a smokescreen for Nash for Rondo+others. ;)

KG guaranteed a championship the next couple of seasons. the Celtics aint a young team maybe the goal is win now.

find a way to throw in Shaq...

goosebumps...

Nash,Allen,Pierce,KG,Shaq.



-- what's the significance of the video in your avatar?


kidd used to blow his wife a kiss before every FT....after they split up he started touching his backside and blowing it to her, a literal "kiss my @ss" as an insult
User avatar
JohnVancouver
General Manager
Posts: 9,016
And1: 236
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC

Re: Trade Rumor: Stoudemire & Barbosa for Rondo & Ray Allen 

Post#119 » by JohnVancouver » Sun Jun 7, 2009 3:43 am

-- what's the significance of the video in your avatar?[/quote]

kidd used to blow his wife a kiss before every FT....after they split up he started touching his backside and blowing it to her, a literal "kiss my @ss" as an insult[/quote]


--- Nice one. thanks
"Deng and Mozgov was some 1980s Clippers sh*t. So, so dumb" - Sedale Threatt

"If you can't get banned for threatening to rape a mod, what can you get banned for?" Jigga_Man/2013

"Everybody love Everybody." - Jackie Moon

Return to Phoenix Suns