My sofa pulls out but Jodie Meeks doesn't - 6/16/09

Villanova1L · Post #1 » by **Villanova1L** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 2:13 am

1. Los Angeles Clippers - Blake Griffin PF Oklahoma
2. Memphis Grizzlies - Ricky Rubio PG DKV Joventut
3. Oklahoma City Thunder - James Harden SG Arizona State
4. Sacramento Kings - Hasheem Thabeet C UConn
5. Washington Wizards - Jordan Hill PF Arizona
6. Minnesota Timberwolves - Tyreke Evans PG/SG Memphis
7. Golden State Warriors - Brandon Jennings PG Lottomatica Virtus Roma
8. New York Knicks - Stephen Curry PG/SG Davidson
9. Toronto Raptors - Demar DeRozan SG USC
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Jrue Holiday PG/SG UCLA
11. New Jersey Nets - Terrence Williams SG/SF Louisville
12. Charlotte Bobcats - Gerald Henderson SG Duke
13. Indiana Pacers - Jonny Flynn PG Syracuse
14. Phoenix Suns - Earl Clark SF/PF Louisville
15. Detroit Pistons - BJ Mullens C Ohio State
16. Chicago Bulls - DeJuan Blair PF Pittsburgh
17. Philadelphia 76ers - Eric Maynor PG VCU
18. Minnesota Timberwolves - Austin Daye SF/PF Gonzaga
19. Atlanta Hawks - Ty Lawson PG UNC
20. Utah Jazz - James Johnson SF/PF Wake Forest
21. New Orleans Hornets - Jeff Teague PG/SG Wake Forest
22. Dallas Mavericks - Chase Budinger SG/SF Arizona
23. Sacramento Kings - Patty Mills PG St. Mary's
24. Portland Trailblazers - DaJuan Summers SF Georgetown
25. Oklahoma City Thunder - Gani Lawal PF Georgia Tech
26. Chicago Bulls - Wayne Ellington SG UNC
27. Memphis Grizzlies - Omri Casspi SF/PF Maccabi Tel Aviv
28. Minnesota Timberwolves - Marcus Thornton SG LSU
29. Los Angeles Lakers - Nando de Colo Cholet
30. Cleveland Cavaliers - Jermaine Taylor SG UCF

Bac2Basics · Post #2 » by **Bac2Basics** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 3:44 am

I see PHX taking a PG to be the long term replacement for the aging Steve Nash.

Dr Positivity · Post #3 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 4:55 am

Where's Jordan Hill

PhilasFinest · Post #4 » by **PhilasFinest** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 5:18 am

yea...No Jordan Hill and i would def prefer Lawson over Maynor @ 17.

nice work tho

princeofpalace · Post #5 » by **princeofpalace** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 12:20 pm

According to reports, Detroit is hignest on Earl Clark, James Johnson and Austin Daye. If Johnsons on the board at their pick, I don't see them passing him up

Villanova1L · Post #6 » by **Villanova1L** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 2:36 pm

Added Hill @ 5.

Detroit is the hardest team for me to gauge, though I could definitely see the guys mentioned.

Maynor over Lawson is simply a hunch based on size and workouts, playing Lawson with Williams in the backcourt would be tough.

I think Suns go BPA, although PG is a definite possibility.

djthesonicsfan · Post #7 » by **djthesonicsfan** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 6:36 pm

You got #3 right.

Presti's not looking at yet another big at #25. He's already got Kristic, Green, Collison & DJ White. Plus Durant is really long at the three. The notSonics are actually a good rebounding team already. The decision this year is whether or not to bring Serge Ibaka (last year's second 1st round pick) over from Spain as the fifth big. Here's a name for you to consider at #25... Rodrigue Beaubois. Measured out & tested great. Livingston making it as backup point guard is no where near a sure thing. He could easily be stashed in Europe for another year if the roster dictates. And remember, it was Presti who is generally given credit for finding another quick French point guard (Tony Parker).

Villanova1L · Post #8 » by **Villanova1L** » Wed Jun 3, 2009 6:40 pm

djthesonicsfan wrote:You got #3 right.

Presti's not looking at yet another big at #25. He's already got Kristic, Green, Collison & DJ White. Plus Durant is really long at the three. The notSonics are actually a good rebounding team already. The decision this year is whether or not to bring Serge Ibaka (last year's second 1st round pick) over from Spain as the fifth big. Here's a name for you to consider at #25... Rodrigue Beaubois. Measured out & tested great. Livingston making it as backup point guard is no where near a sure thing. He could easily be stashed in Europe for another year if the roster dictates. And remember, it was Presti who is generally given credit for finding another quick French point guard (Tony Parker).

Rodrigue could make sense at 25. So could de Colo, or anyone willing to go play overseas. People forget that US players can take teams up on that offer as well and play overseas for a year while not occupying an roster spot.

Villanova1L · Post #9 » by **Villanova1L** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:43 am

June 9, 2009

1. Los Angeles Clippers - Blake Griffin PF Oklahoma
2. Memphis Grizzlies - Ricky Rubio PG DKV Joventut
3. Oklahoma City Thunder - James Harden SG Arizona State
4. Sacramento Kings - Hasheem Thabeet C UConn
5. Washington Wizards - Tyreke Evans PG/SG Memphis
6. Minnesota Timberwolves - Stephen Curry PG/SG Davidson
7. Golden State Warriors - Jonny Flynn PG Syracuse
8. New York Knicks - Jordan Hill PF Arizona
9. Toronto Raptors - Demar DeRozan SG USC
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Jrue Holiday PG/SG UCLA
11. New Jersey Nets - DeJuan Blair PF Pittsburgh
12. Charlotte Bobcats - Gerald Henderson SG Duke
13. Indiana Pacers - Brandon Jennings PG Lottomatica Virtus Roma
14. Phoenix Suns - Terrence Williams SG/SF Louisville
15. Detroit Pistons - Austin Daye SF/PF Gonzaga
16. Chicago Bulls - James Johnson SF/PF Wake Forest
17. Philadelphia 76ers - Eric Maynor PG VCU
18. Minnesota Timberwolves - Earl Clark SF/PF Louisville
19. Atlanta Hawks - Ty Lawson PG UNC
20. Utah Jazz - Chase Budinger SG/SF Arizona
21. New Orleans Hornets - Jeff Teague PG/SG Wake Forest
22. Dallas Mavericks - BJ Mullens C Ohio State
23. Sacramento Kings - Sam Young SF Pittsburgh
24. Portland Trailblazers - Gani Lawal PF Georgia Tech
25. Oklahoma City Thunder - Toney Douglas SG Florida State
26. Chicago Bulls - Wayne Ellington SG UNC
27. Memphis Grizzlies -Tyler Hansbrough PF UNC
28. Minnesota Timberwolves - Omri Casspi SF/PF Israel
29. Los Angeles Lakers - Rodrigue Beaubois PG France
30. Cleveland Cavaliers - Dionte Christmas SG Temple

Boneman2 · Post #10 » by **Boneman2** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:30 am

I like it for Indy.

john2jer · Post #11 » by **john2jer** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:45 pm

I'm hoping it's the one in the original post. Curry is a bad fit for the Wolves.

But Evans, Daye, and Casspi/Beaubois works for me.

RIPskaterdude · Post #12 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:45 pm

Bad draft for the Kings. They desperately need a PG...and while Thabeet is BPA at 4, what about picking one at 23?

Villanova1L · Post #13 » by **Villanova1L** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:18 pm

john2jer wrote:I'm hoping it's the one in the original post. Curry is a bad fit for the Wolves.

But Evans, Daye, and Casspi/Beaubois works for me.

Curry can play PG, I know he isn't big enough for what the Wolves want, but with Reke gone at 5 what big PG is available?

Villanova1L · Post #14 » by **Villanova1L** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:20 pm

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:Bad draft for the Kings. They desperately need a PG...and while Thabeet is BPA at 4, what about picking one at 23?

If Thabeet is there they take him. Also, there's a chance they get to trade for Rubio (most likely if Memphis drafts him).

Also, why take a PG for the sake of taking one at 23 when you could take Calathes at 31 and let him develop overseas for a year?

john2jer · Post #15 » by **john2jer** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:38 pm

Villanova1L wrote:
john2jer wrote:I'm hoping it's the one in the original post. Curry is a bad fit for the Wolves.

But Evans, Daye, and Casspi/Beaubois works for me.

Curry can play PG, I know he isn't big enough for what the Wolves want, but with Reke gone at 5 what big PG is available?

See I couldn't tell which was your mock because the original post was updated a minute after your last post. Using your last post, I'd go...

#6 - Jrue Holiday
#18 - Earl Clark
#28 - Omri Casspi - Clark and Casspi are rather similar, but Casspi's got a year before he's coming over, and by then we'll have cleared out Miller, Smith, and maybe Gomes.

The Wolves greatest issue last year was perimeter defense. Jrue Holiday goes along way to fixing that. He's been called the best perimeter defender in this draft by many scouts/GMs during his workouts. Plus Holiday's size allows us to at least survive with Foye at SG in the mean time. Foye/Curry together would be disgusting.

riehldeal · Post #16 » by **riehldeal** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:59 pm

If Clark goes as low as some are saying and he reaches any where near his upside then GM's are going to have a lot of explaining to do

Winter Wonder · Post #17 » by **Winter Wonder** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:16 pm

john2jer wrote:
Villanova1L wrote:
john2jer wrote:I'm hoping it's the one in the original post. Curry is a bad fit for the Wolves.

But Evans, Daye, and Casspi/Beaubois works for me.

Curry can play PG, I know he isn't big enough for what the Wolves want, but with Reke gone at 5 what big PG is available?

See I couldn't tell which was your mock because the original post was updated a minute after your last post. Using your last post, I'd go...

#6 - Jrue Holiday
#18 - Earl Clark
#28 - Omri Casspi - Clark and Casspi are rather similar, but Casspi's got a year before he's coming over, and by then we'll have cleared out Miller, Smith, and maybe Gomes.

The Wolves greatest issue last year was perimeter defense. Jrue Holiday goes along way to fixing that. He's been called the best perimeter defender in this draft by many scouts/GMs during his workouts. Plus Holiday's size allows us to at least survive with Foye at SG in the mean time. Foye/Curry together would be disgusting.

No arguments here. This is how I would want it given the draft scenario.

Villanova1L · Post #18 » by **Villanova1L** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:38 pm

riehldeal wrote:If Clark goes as low as some are saying and he reaches any where near his upside then GM's are going to have a lot of explaining to do

Clark has a wide range in this draft. I agree that he's closer to late lottery, but just from what I think/hear teams are going to do he could fall.

Villanova1L · Post #19 » by **Villanova1L** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:46 pm

john2jer wrote:
Villanova1L wrote:
john2jer wrote:I'm hoping it's the one in the original post. Curry is a bad fit for the Wolves.

But Evans, Daye, and Casspi/Beaubois works for me.

Curry can play PG, I know he isn't big enough for what the Wolves want, but with Reke gone at 5 what big PG is available?

See I couldn't tell which was your mock because the original post was updated a minute after your last post. Using your last post, I'd go...

#6 - Jrue Holiday
#18 - Earl Clark
#28 - Omri Casspi - Clark and Casspi are rather similar, but Casspi's got a year before he's coming over, and by then we'll have cleared out Miller, Smith, and maybe Gomes.

The Wolves greatest issue last year was perimeter defense. Jrue Holiday goes along way to fixing that. He's been called the best perimeter defender in this draft by many scouts/GMs during his workouts. Plus Holiday's size allows us to at least survive with Foye at SG in the mean time. Foye/Curry together would be disgusting.

I could see Holiday, I guess Curry just provides a scorer, which I feel they need. Is Curry, Brewer, Miller, Love, Jefferson really that bad from a perimeter D standpoint (given Brewer is supposed to be a lock down defender).

Villanova1L · Post #20 » by **Villanova1L** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:23 pm

1. Los Angeles Clippers - Blake Griffin PF Oklahoma
2. Memphis Grizzlies - Hasheem Thabeet C UConn
3. Oklahoma City Thunder - Ricky Rubio PG DKV Joventut
4. Sacramento Kings - Tyreke Evans PG/SG Memphis
5. Washington Wizards - James Harden SG Arizona State
6. Minnesota Timberwolves - Jrue Holiday PG/SG UCLA
7. Golden State Warriors - Stephen Curry PG/SG Davidson
8. New York Knicks - Jonny Flynn PG Syracuse
9. Toronto Raptors - Demar DeRozan SG USC
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Brandon Jennings PG Lottomatica Virtus Roma
11. New Jersey Nets - Jordan Hill PF Arizona
12. Charlotte Bobcats - Gerald Henderson SG Duke
13. Indiana Pacers - DeJuan Blair PF Pittsburgh
14. Phoenix Suns - Austin Daye SF/PF Gonzaga
15. Detroit Pistons - Earl Clark SF/PF Louisville
16. Chicago Bulls - BJ Mullens C Ohio State
17. Philadelphia 76ers - Eric Maynor PG VCU
18. Minnesota Timberwolves - James Johnson SF/PF Wake Forest
19. Atlanta Hawks - Jeff Teague PG/SG Wake Forest
20. Utah Jazz - Terrence Williams SG/SF Louisville
21. New Orleans Hornets - Chase Budinger SG/SF Arizona
22. Dallas Mavericks - Ty Lawson PG UNC
23. Sacramento Kings - Omri Casspi SF/PF Maccabi Tel Aviv
24. Portland Trailblazers - Tyler Hansbrough PF UNC
25. Oklahoma City Thunder - Sam Young SF Pittsburgh
26. Chicago Bulls - Dionte Christmas SG Temple
27. Memphis Grizzlies - Toney Douglass PG/SG FSU
28. Minnesota Timberwolves - Patty Mills PG St. Mary's
29. Los Angeles Lakers - Wayne Ellington SG UNC
30. Cleveland Cavaliers - DaJuan Summers SF Georgetown