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Post#41 » by KingInExile » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:59 am

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HUBlackstar83 wrote:Welcome aboard coach, finally a legit coach with some significant experience.


Yea, like the Sonics he coached couple years ago.

Interesting how you pick as an example his time with an organization that had a GM that never really wanted him and players who only wanted things their way. Why not look at his previous time with an organization that actually succeeded on the floor?
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Post#42 » by KingInExile » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:02 am

perezident wrote:Okay guys fasten your seat belts.. but im hearing that Westphal is reaching out to Avery Johnson for his lead assistant/defensive coach! No link but I called a friend who has a source close to the situation is proclaiming this.

If this is true..do you think Avery accepts? I mean there isnt any other coaching jobs available except the Wolves so he wouldnt touch that to expose his coaching abillities..but I mean he can come here and still be able to feld offers if/when coaching jobs become open.

whats your take??

I wouldn't really be opposed, but I would like to see more evidence that this is actually being discussed before I get to opinionated.
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Post#43 » by jeffjtk1234 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:08 am

well realgm just pooped on us with their analysis. haha
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Post#44 » by KingInExile » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:11 am

Fola314 wrote:Hey guys, Rambis was on the radio down here in SoCal. He said the Maloofs made him an offer, but it wasn't enough years so he turned it down. He also felt that the Maloofs didn't share the same vision of the team that he did.

Well, if Rambis thought that him being told what the team would offer to any coach as formal job offer, then he's an idiot. This is what Petrie had to say about Rambis being offered the job (before Rambis was on the radio):

A: "The way we approached this hire was that we had a compensation structure that was basically a pre-qualifying type of...commitment that was going to be needed. So all of the people who we talked to were either told ahead of time or immediately after in their interviews what this structure was. And in order to have a chance to be offered the job, there needed to be some acknowledgement that that structure would be acceptable, which is not unlike a lot of jobs that get put out there. The job could not have been offered to somebody who hadn't said that that structure was acceptable. The only person who was offered this job was Paul Westphal. That's the bottom line.


So who do you believe...the GM who was part of every interview or the spurned coaching candidate who obviously did not like the package the Maloofs were willing to put out and basically dissed the team as being "too raw"?
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Post#45 » by Wolfay » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:23 am

I like Westphal. He, much like Adelman, would probably have a ring if it wasn't for Michael Jordan and the Bulls. I'm curious to know what kind of system he would like to run however.

Rambis sounds like a douche.
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Post#46 » by cdt3 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:48 am

Here are Rambis' words on Realgm today.


Kurt Rambis took to the airwaves on Wednesday, one day after the Kings hired Paul Westphal for their head coaching gig. Rambis had been considered the favorite to land the job.

"I really did not want to focus on it (the Kings' coaching situation)," said Rambis. "They put some sort of timetable there. I understand that they wanted to move forward in their coaching search, but really what it came down to was that they have a bunch of young players on their team. It's a project team. As it stands right now, that team is - particularly in the Western Conference - is a ways away from winning.

"They have holes in their roster, and they certainly have to improve as a ballclub if they expect to win. And I was just looking to be involved with that team for a longer term than what the Sacramento Kings were looking for. I think that that's basically what it came down to. I like the Kings organization, I like Geoff Petrie as a general manager. The Maloofs are good owners, but my vision and their vision just didn't coincide, so I decided to turn their offer down and they moved in another direction."

Wow. Now we have some wallpaper for some playoff battles. He basically think we need an intervention. Hilarious and a kick in the teeth to Petrie. Does he think the NBA lets any team not named New York or LA trade nothing to get an Allstar or buy referees? No in small markets you actually have to earn wins Rambis with hard work, not suntan lotion. Hilarious from a guy who was the earlier version of Mark Madsen. This guy never did much with his career calling out Petrie who was not only an excellent basketball player and is the second winningest GM in history. You ae nothing but a scrub Rambis. I hope that Jackson retires when Kobe is done then well see how your franchise sits then. He obviously wanted to run the triangle and Petrie wants no part of it (ask Reggie Theus) we are running the princeton and have the personel to make it work.

Westphal is the better coach. I can't wait until we are kicking their rear next year.
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Post#47 » by cdt3 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:19 am

I saw the mangling of Petrie. I love idiots who don't do their homework calling out someone who always does theirs. See Jason Thompson who no one thought was worth anything despite being recruited by UCLA and turning them down and faced Michael Beasley in college and outscored him 15-10 in the game. Despite multipe dunks around Shaq and Amare when they played, he is just not intimidated. Despite being the main objective to every team here on Realgm that has wanted a trade and the teams that were trading Bosh, Amare and Rubio wnted him back the guy gets zero respect from the media.

Westphal did coach a stacked team in Phoenix but his team in Seattle only had one legit star when he got there Gary Payton, just like KMart was our only star last year because of the turmoil. So he did rebuild in Seattle which had a roster very similar in talent as the Kings now and went to the playoffs. The idiot also ripped trhe Maloofs for being impatient but the reason he didn't get selected because he would have wanted to do the triangle like Theus and that is not the direction Petrie has built the Kings. If the Kings get a leader in the draft at PG the Kings are as good as any young core in the NBA with a solid coach smells like success to me.
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Post#48 » by Sacramento_King » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:32 am

cdt3 wrote:Wow. Now we have some wallpaper for some playoff battles. He basically think we need an intervention. Hilarious and a kick in the teeth to Petrie. Does he think the NBA lets any team not named New York or LA trade nothing to get an Allstar or buy referees? No in small markets you actually have to earn wins Rambis with hard work, not suntan lotion. Hilarious from a guy who was the earlier version of Mark Madsen. This guy never did much with his career calling out Petrie who was not only an excellent basketball player and is the second winningest GM in history. You ae nothing but a scrub Rambis. I hope that Jackson retires when Kobe is done then well see how your franchise sits then. He obviously wanted to run the triangle and Petrie wants no part of it (ask Reggie Theus) we are running the princeton and have the personel to make it work.

Westphal is the better coach. I can't wait until we are kicking their rear next year.


Where did he say anything so offensive? He wanted a longer commitment cause he saw that the Kings were more than a couple years away and the Kings didn't want to give him one so they moved on as did he. Why are Kings fans so sensitive?
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Post#49 » by SacKingZZZ » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:05 am

Fola314 wrote:Hey guys, Rambis was on the radio down here in SoCal. He said the Maloofs made him an offer, but it wasn't enough years so he turned it down. He also felt that the Maloofs didn't share the same vision of the team that he did.


It becomes clear. Maloofs obviously wanted to retain the option to fire him early if he sucked and he wouldn't go for it. I don't know if it was a smart move or a bad move on Rambis' part. On one hand if he had a terrible season, which in the state this franchise is in is quite possible, he might not get another offer for awhile. Then on the other hand, he's interviewed for how many jobs and hasn't gotten one yet!?

I don't think it was necessarily an offer per se either, probably like what they did with Westphal before hand, see if they could agree on some numbers. Obviously they didn't.
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Post#50 » by SacKingZZZ » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:11 am

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Fola314 wrote:Hey guys, Rambis was on the radio down here in SoCal. He said the Maloofs made him an offer, but it wasn't enough years so he turned it down. He also felt that the Maloofs didn't share the same vision of the team that he did.

Well, if Rambis thought that him being told what the team would offer to any coach as formal job offer, then he's an idiot. This is what Petrie had to say about Rambis being offered the job (before Rambis was on the radio):

A: "The way we approached this hire was that we had a compensation structure that was basically a pre-qualifying type of...commitment that was going to be needed. So all of the people who we talked to were either told ahead of time or immediately after in their interviews what this structure was. And in order to have a chance to be offered the job, there needed to be some acknowledgement that that structure would be acceptable, which is not unlike a lot of jobs that get put out there. The job could not have been offered to somebody who hadn't said that that structure was acceptable. The only person who was offered this job was Paul Westphal. That's the bottom line.


So who do you believe...the GM who was part of every interview or the spurned coaching candidate who obviously did not like the package the Maloofs were willing to put out and basically dissed the team as being "too raw"?


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Post#51 » by Smills91 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:53 pm

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Fola314 wrote:Hey guys, Rambis was on the radio down here in SoCal. He said the Maloofs made him an offer, but it wasn't enough years so he turned it down. He also felt that the Maloofs didn't share the same vision of the team that he did.


It becomes clear. Maloofs obviously wanted to retain the option to fire him early if he sucked and he wouldn't go for it. I don't know if it was a smart move or a bad move on Rambis' part. On one hand if he had a terrible season, which in the state this franchise is in is quite possible, he might not get another offer for awhile. Then on the other hand, he's interviewed for how many jobs and hasn't gotten one yet!?

I don't think it was necessarily an offer per se either, probably like what they did with Westphal before hand, see if they could agree on some numbers. Obviously they didn't.


The thing is, if you do WORSE than we did this year, you DESERVE to be fired regardless of the state of the franchise. I mean, we have NO WHERE to go but UP. So that's a lame premise IMO.
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Post#52 » by ICMTM » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:32 pm

I liked the blog in the bee where they said all candidates had to be happy with the compensation package before we move on. Rambis never stated how he felt one way or another and they jumped on Westphal.
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Post#53 » by jfucsd10 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:53 pm

This topic has pretty much lost its appeal. Rambis is not our coach, Westphal is. Im excited about the hiring and believe he can be a great asset for the team going forward. Thank you for your initial interest Mr. Rambis, enjoy being second seat to Phil for the next decade. Im genuinely curious as to what occurs first, the kings fill their "holes" and get "competitive" or Phil finally decides to hang up the clipboard.
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Post#54 » by perezident » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:16 pm

man FRIG Rambiatch...he's a liar and (as you americans say )a douche bag! Well we dnt have to worry about him ever coming here again to interview. Lying about being offered the job -- what a loser! That's why he'll get shaft by the Lakerettes once again and they'll talk to Paul Silas to lead that team before he EVER see's a head coaching job for the lakerettes
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Post#55 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:46 am

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The thing is, if you do WORSE than we did this year, you DESERVE to be fired regardless of the state of the franchise. I mean, we have NO WHERE to go but UP. So that's a lame premise IMO.



Just an overall negative overtone for the season, which despite an improvement could still be left, could impact his future as a coach. It seems like teams were/are already reluctant to hire the guy so ANY negative vibes here could follow him.
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Post#56 » by KingInExile » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:14 pm

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The thing is, if you do WORSE than we did this year, you DESERVE to be fired regardless of the state of the franchise. I mean, we have NO WHERE to go but UP. So that's a lame premise IMO.



Just an overall negative overtone for the season, which despite an improvement could still be left, could impact his future as a coach. It seems like teams were/are already reluctant to hire the guy so ANY negative vibes here could follow him.

What "reluctance"? After his stint at Pepperdine, he really did not exactly put himself out there for a head coaching position. And it's not like he was not active in the league. He was an assistant for Avery Johnson in 2007 and then moved into Dallas' front office after they fired Johnson.
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Post#57 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:27 pm

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Just an overall negative overtone for the season, which despite an improvement could still be left, could impact his future as a coach. It seems like teams were/are already reluctant to hire the guy so ANY negative vibes here could follow him.

What "reluctance"? After his stint at Pepperdine, he really did not exactly put himself out there for a head coaching position. And it's not like he was not active in the league. He was an assistant for Avery Johnson in 2007 and then moved into Dallas' front office after they fired Johnson.[/quote]


I was talking about Rambis. Apparently Westphal has had a few offers in the last 10 years he's turned down.
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Post#58 » by KingInExile » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:05 am

^^Ah...ok...I guess I just didn't pay attention to what you were saying.
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