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Post#21 » by Devilzsidewalk » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:17 am

Evans does have about 55 lbs on him
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Post#22 » by AQuintus » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:20 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:Evans does have about 55 lbs on him


Which would probably help in the "dipping his testes" part, but not the other things.

RD&KG2 wrote:Gomes wants him too. on twitter he told him he wanted him to get drafted by the wolves and prove his haters wrong by getting ROY.


Based on the McDonald's all-star game, he's good friends with DeRozan, too. And since we're going to get DD with the 6th pick, trading up for Jennings is almost a certainty. :D
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Post#23 » by john2jer » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:21 am

Would Greg Paulus be required to play for the opponent? He's the king of being tea-bagged.

I prefer my point guards to be able to play defense. And with our height issues in the front court, I'd like to add size and strength on the perimeter to keep guys out of the lane, thus making things easier on Jefferson and Love.

I'm pretty positive Jennings and Telfair have matching red capes.
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Post#24 » by JMillott » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:50 am

john2jer wrote:If Jennings is there at #18 you have to take him just because of value. If we got Evans or Holiday at #6, I'd take Jennings and trade him instantly for greater value, like Earl Clark if he also slipped and a future pick? Or something along the lines of a guy we'd want at #18 and future value.


If Jennings falls to #18 it will be because teams didn't value him right now. Its quite clear that in the minds of most GM's he has fallen behind Rubio, Curry, Evans, Holiday, Flynn and likely if he falls that far he'll be drafted after at least a few of these guys Teague, Mills, Lawson or Maynor.

If nobody has picked him by then you'd need to build up his trade value by developing him. Since chances are reasonably high that the Wolves will have already added either Evans, Curry, Holiday or Flynn themselves earlier in the draft how do you suppose they develop two young PG's without slowing the development of who they pick 6th?

If they go for longterm upside value at 18 its likely to be BJ Mullens or Gani Lawal whom they can send to the NBADL to develop.
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Post#25 » by john2jer » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:58 am

Pretty sure there would be teams that passed on him very early, like in the top 8 that just prefered a prospect over him and not necessarily didn't value him. Maybe the Clippers? Kings? Or a team late in the draft or a team that doesn't have a pick like the Rockets who'd love him.
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Post#26 » by JMillott » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:40 am

john2jer wrote:Pretty sure there would be teams that passed on him very early, like in the top 8 that just prefered a prospect over him and not necessarily didn't value him. Maybe the Clippers? Kings? Or a team late in the draft or a team that doesn't have a pick like the Rockets who'd love him.


This draft has depth enough that you can get a good player to help your team by using the 18th pick on a player who can help you. Sure if a team calls you asking you to draft Jennings for a good asset you do it but unless such a deal is agreed on I think you draft for yourselves not in hope that somebody will after the fact trade for him.
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Post#27 » by RD&KG2 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:36 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:that's kind of out of the blue, how does Gomes know him


I don't know for sure, but they exchanged some messages on twitter, and that was one of them.
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Post#28 » by Dewey » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:26 pm

So Jennings feels left out and is yacking about the attention his counterparts are getting ... Evans has been public about his willingness to work out against any other prospect. This tells me they are not having good workouts. Do they fear they may slide ... alot? This is a draft where a player could fall from 7 to 17 in a hearbeat due to a more even playing field.

Theoretically, lets take them both out of the equation and focus more on Thabeet, Hill, DeRozan, Harden, Holiday, and Curry once Griffn and Rubio are gone. Out of the top 10 prospects in the draft, we'll get 1 of 5 second tier players. Most experts seem to think Hill and Evans should be flip-flopped in the below example.

1st tier ... Griffin, Rubio
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2nd tier ... Thabeet - Hill - DeRozan - Harden - Holiday - Curry
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??? ... Evans, Jennings

Two players in bold (Curry and Harden) are the most polished, but the others likened due to their higher potential.
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Post#29 » by Esohny » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:45 pm

Give me Harden, Curry, Holiday, Evans, Derozan, pretty much anyone but Flynn before Thabeet.
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Post#30 » by AQuintus » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:09 pm

Dewey wrote:So Jennings feels left out and is yacking about the attention his counterparts are getting ... Evans has been public about his willingness to work out against any other prospect. This tells me they are not having good workouts.


The odd thing, though, is that the only report I've seen about the Warriors workout said that Jennings looked great in his workout.

The whole situation is so weird and added to that his generally positive relationship with Rubio, I think that we can probably assume that his Twitter messages are the truth and he's just attempting (albeit poorly) to build up hype for the Summer League.
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Post#31 » by Dewey » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:11 pm

What I REALLY want to know for fact is:

How do the scouts go about evaluating prospective PG's vs. Combo guards? For example, Rubio, Jennings, or Flynn compared to Evans (or Holiday as combo guards). There has to be some differences on how each is valued based on position. It's pretty rare that a PG is going to impress their skill-set since most of the workouts are NOT 5-on-5.

I'm yacking, but we need a good PG and I don't want to let that ONE slip by.
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Re: Jennings talks a lot of mess. 

Post#32 » by revprodeji » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:06 pm

Ok..the whole "holiday is a combo" stops now. Kid was more of a pure pg in high school than Jennings BY FAR (jennings broke scoring records) Holiday played out of position as a SG because of Collison. Jennings played mostly SG in europe also.
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Post#33 » by horaceworthy » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:22 pm

I think too much is being made of a 20 year old having a big mouth. That being said, this does cause me to question how much maturing really went on in Europe. The comments don't take Jennings off my board, but I don't find them all that encouraging either.

What I do like about Jennings is that, apart from skipping Eurocamp, he hasn't been afraid to meet competition head on. He's taken on Flynn twice (GSW and SAC), Holiday once (SAC), and he's coming in here for what was supposed to be a real PG rumble with Curry and a couple of the other PGs before Curry pulled out.

I am interested to see where he gets drafted, because if he goes high, then that probably means he had his way with the competition in workouts. If he goes low, then that means he should have kept his mouth shut.
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