Honest question from an outsider...

carrottop12 · Post #1 » by **carrottop12** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:19 am

Hey guys, I'm not here to rip on anyone or anything but I have a serious question.

I am guessing that most of you are old enough to realize that wrestling is fake, and that a lot of these guys are roided out actors trying to make a buck.

So what is the draw? Do you like the stories, the athleticism, the fighting?

I am honestly curious because knowing that there is nothing real about it and that there is no competitiveness literally makes it unwatchable for me.

Whats the deal with wresting and why do you like it so much?

Thanks for your time, and again I'm not trying to offend anyone.

skbucks1985 · Post #2 » by **skbucks1985** » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:02 am

Its a little bit of all three for me. I do find some of the storylines very entertaining, I do find some of the matches entertaining as well. I think the appeal is that it is just so different from anything else on tv. It combines aspects of dramas, sitcoms and athletics.

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #3 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:40 am

first of your statement of there being nothing real about it is insulting to me, I am a pro wrestler, the pain is very real and so is the violince,

the draw for wreslters is the crowed reaction plain and spimple its a adrnaline rush, but we where all fans at one point, and what hooked us its the o ver the top gimmikes the the drma in a storyline and the athletes in the ring, watching a guy like evan bourn or CM punk shows how athletic these guys are,

magic1636 · Post #4 » by **magic1636** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:57 pm

it's like safi its a bit of all three. When it comes to the storylines there are some that are boring, but then there are some where their entertaining. The storyline with Randy Orton and HHH is a good one going at the moment IMO. As forthe athleticism it's amazing to see how athletic some of these guys are for instance Umaga is an athletic big guy and as a big guy myself I enjoy seeing someone like that move. As for the matche all I have to say is watch Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels. That match alone would be worth front row wrestlemania tickets alone.

mbucks22 · Post #5 » by **mbucks22** » Fri May 1, 2009 9:00 pm

Taker/HBK at Mania represents all that is great about being a wrestling fan. They gave us one of the greatest matches ever and it made me proud to be a fan.

MeestR · Post #6 » by **MeestR** » Thu May 7, 2009 10:00 pm

i havent watched it for a while, but i still will when its on and im by myself. my wife hates it. what intrigues me is the athleticism, the ability to execute potentially fatal moves, the closeness of the audience, the ridiculousness of the announcers is very entertaining also. kinda like an old fashioned circus. scripted yeah, not fake though. and though the storyline is borderline insulting, when i became involved, invested (? whatever the word) it kept me coming back. the music was another big thing about the shows that i enjoyed.

Vik Rude · Post #7 » by **Vik Rude** » Fri May 8, 2009 5:11 pm

I wouldn't say wrestling is fake. To say its fake then the injuries would be fake, and there would be no risks with no blood. The matches are fixed, the stories are fixed. The rest is as real as it gets. No camera tricks, no stunt doubles. They come and give it their all, I find it very entertaining.

john2jer · Post #8 » by **john2jer** » Thu May 14, 2009 6:54 pm

Didn't even know this forum existed, hmm...

I don't watch it as much anymore, but when I was a kid, throughout the 80's and early 90's, then again in college in the late 90's, I was a HUGE fan. Tough to find a fan bigger than me back then.

The comment about it being "fake" always annoyed me. It's not any more fake than Friends, Seinfeld, Cheers, or any other TV show. To complain about wrestling being fake and then watching your primetime sitcoms is rather hypcritical. Obviously the story line is scripted, the matches are fixed, but the pain is definitely real. Roided up or not, these are some of the better athletes in the world.

Now unfortunately the last few years the storylines have sucked, they might be better now, I haven't watched in close to a year, but hopefully some day they'll improve. New faces would be nice.

Silk Wilkes · Post #9 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:17 pm

Why I watch:

Post #10 » by **boogiesdad** » Tue May 19, 2009 1:00 am

Its just something you grow up on. I'm 36, and have kids and they like wrestling. So I watch occassionally.

Its kinda like Santa Claus. Its something fake that kids believe in. Why ruin it?

El Hardee · Post #11 » by **El Hardee** » Thu May 21, 2009 2:36 am

boogiesdad wrote:Its just something you grow up on. I'm 36, and have kids and they like wrestling. So I watch occassionally.

Its kinda like Santa Claus. Its something fake that kids believe in. Why ruin it?

+1, my kids got me back into wrestling, now I watch it on my own.

Post #12 » by **pduh01** » Mon May 25, 2009 6:12 am

Wait I thought wrestling is real?

IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMNIT!

Sorry couldn't resist :lol:

Anyways to answer your question and personally I like to have great storylines that are entertain, make sense, and that lead great angles and fueds and also I like to see good wrestling matches.

Post #13 » by **Stanford** » Tue May 26, 2009 12:28 am

I'm baffled when someone says they don't get how anyone could watch something as fake as wrestling and then turn the tube to fox for a ripping episode of 24, which I can only assume is a live, real life event.

The world watches fake entertainment featuring people with physical enhancement every day.

Post #14 » by **pduh01** » Tue May 26, 2009 12:50 am

Stanford wrote:I'm baffled when someone says they don't get how anyone could watch something as fake as wrestling and then turn the tube to fox for a ripping episode of 24, which I can only assume is a live, real life event.

The world watches fake entertainment featuring people with physical enhancement every day.

THANK YOU EXACTLY MAN!

That's what I thinking I mean find people don't like wrestling but when they say something like "OMFG Wrestling is fake I don't watch it's gay." Or whatever.....Yes it is fake but so does movies, television shows like 24, Smallville, and also cartoons. But what they all have in common? Entertainment of their own right.

Don't like wrestling fine but if people want to bitch about wrestling is fake I don't see that same people bitch about movies, cartoons, or other television shows. People need to stop bitching for little things it's remind me some stupid lady who complain about Marriage With Children so inappropriate then got the show cancel and now only show re-runs. Here is a advise how about I don't know.......DON'T WATCH IT AND STOP BITCHING!

Sorry about this little rant because I have to deal with some people about "wrestling is so fake." early today after the house show I went last night.

skbucks1985 · Post #15 » by **skbucks1985** » Tue May 26, 2009 3:50 pm

Stanford wrote:I'm baffled when someone says they don't get how anyone could watch something as fake as wrestling and then turn the tube to fox for a ripping episode of 24, which I can only assume is a live, real life event.

The world watches fake entertainment featuring people with physical enhancement every day.

I think it can be attributed to a fundamental lack of knowledge about wrestling itself and why wrestling fans watch wrestling. An outsider only looks at it from the sports perspective and therefore compares it solely to basketball, baseball, etc. and can't understand why any of us would watch something we know is fake. But the completely fail to take into account the entertainment aspect and how its that combination that's so appealing to many.

Post #16 » by **Hilltop** » Tue Jun 2, 2009 2:50 pm

I don't really watch pro wrestling now, but I was one of the bigger fans back in the 90's and early 2000's. What got me then were the interesting characters, over the top storylines, and I guess the action. I mean with characters like Stone Cold, Kane, the Undertaker, The Rock, Vader, Goldust, Mankind, Val Venis, D-Generation X, Nation of Domination, and so many more back then, it was almost like getting a bunch of random movie/cartoon characters and actually getting to pit them against each other inside a ring. It was exciting.

It gets old eventually, well for me at least. I've also seen a whole bunch of tasteless storylines (Kane raping Katie Vick, Undertaker having some affair, Father-Daughter match, Shawn Michaels teaming up with God, McMahon's fake death) that lead me to believe that the WWE has lots its creative edge. I just don't find the characters in the WWE today as interesting, and I find that rivalries and storylines are just re-hashed more often than not.

Kapono24 · Post #17 » by **Kapono24** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:00 pm

Hilltop wrote:I don't really watch pro wrestling now, but I was one of the bigger fans back in the 90's and early 2000's. What got me then were the interesting characters, over the top storylines, and I guess the action. I mean with characters like Stone Cold, Kane, the Undertaker, The Rock, Vader, Goldust, Mankind, Val Venis, D-Generation X, Nation of Domination, and so many more back then, it was almost like getting a bunch of random movie/cartoon characters and actually getting to pit them against each other inside a ring. It was exciting.

It gets old eventually, well for me at least. I've also seen a whole bunch of tasteless storylines (Kane raping Katie Vick, Undertaker having some affair, Father-Daughter match, Shawn Michaels teaming up with God, McMahon's fake death) that lead me to believe that the WWE has lots its creative edge. I just don't find the characters in the WWE today as interesting, and I find that rivalries and storylines are just re-hashed more often than not.

It's not that it gets old, though I'm sure that's what you think, it's that WWE has just gotten bad over the years. The wrestlers are boring, the storylines just aren't as fun as they once were, and John Cena always has the belt. It has a chance to still be entertaining, I find TNA to be as close as it gets to wrestling in the 90's, but the talent and creativity isn't there anymore.

john2jer · Post #18 » by **john2jer** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:27 pm

They've wasted time to out-right shock or offend people. It's Jerry Springer/Howard Stern type writing. They also only have a few legit stars, so they rotate storylines and feuds so fast that it's tough to keep up with.

I've always been a fan of the 4 Horsemen, DX, and NWO style storylines where they have the bad guy "gang" versus the 1 good guy who has to battle against all odds. And kind of in the same like, the Austin vs McMahon feud. I like Cena more than most people, but him always having the belt doesn't make people like him more. Maybe he needs another turn as a bad guy. Whne he first broke it as the **** rapper Eminem wannabe, he was actually more entertaining because he was a heel.

Not that it would matter to me, I don't currently have cable to even watch it. :-)

magic1636 · Post #19 » by **magic1636** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:15 pm

IMO I think the WWE became so great in the 90's-early 00's (born late 80's so I missed that era) that they are now paying for it. Back then you had guys like Stone Cold, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, HHH, Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Mankind, Undertaker, Kane, and so on. There were also great feuds you had DX vs. Nation of Domination vs. The Hart Foundation, Stone Cold vs. Shawn Michaels, Stone Cold vs. The Rock, Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels.

Post #20 » by **Hilltop** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:06 am

It's time to merge the brands. I always felt it was a terrible idea anyway.