If you could use one word to describe Tmac's tenure with Rox

Guy986 · Post #1 » by **Guy986** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:00 am

Inefficient

a. 1. Not efficient; not producing the effect intended or desired; inefficacious; as, inefficient means or measures.

2. Incapable of, or indisposed to, effective action; habitually slack or remiss; effecting little or nothing; as, inefficient workmen; an inefficient administrator.

05- 43.1%FG, 32%3pt, 77%FT

06- 40.6%FG, 31%3pt, 74%FT

07- 43.1%FG, 33%3pt, 71%FT

08- 41.9%FG, 30%3pt, 68%FT

09- 38.8%FG, 37%3pt, 80%FT

Apparently when we traded for Tmac, he forgot to bring his shot.

CoolKids · Post #2 » by **CoolKids** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:11 am

Failure

BaYBaller · Post #3 » by **BaYBaller** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:13 am

43% is respectable for a SG given how he was practically the only offensive threat on that team. Even Bryant shot worse on bad teams so you can't discredit that. The things that bugs you about T-Mac is that he generally shot worse on progressively better teams, and that inexplicably his FT% went down each season he's been here which tells a lot about how hard (or lack thereof) he works in the offseason.

If I could use one word though it'd be heartbreaking because man when we got him, the dude was like a top 2 SG in the L. He's declined pretty drastically (and his career may even be over at this point).

Guy986 · Post #4 » by **Guy986** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:21 am

BaYBaller wrote:43% is respectable for a SG given how he was practically the only offensive threat on that team. Even Bryant shot worse on bad teams so you can't discredit that. The things that bugs you about T-Mac is that he generally shot worse on progressively better teams, and that inexplicably his FT% went down each season he's been here which tells a lot about how hard (or lack thereof) he works in the offseason.

If I could use one word though it'd be heartbreaking because man when we got him, the dude was like a top 2 SG in the L. He's declined pretty drastically (and his career may even be over at this point).

43% is Tmac's BEST with the Rockets. BEST. His average as a Rocket is around 40%.

The only time Kobe has ever shot worst than 43% in his life is during his first two years in the league when he shot 41.7% and 42.8% from the field.

jove9 · Post #5 » by **jove9** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:53 am

injury-riddled

Snip · Post #6 » by **Snip** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:15 am

Unfortunate

texasholdem · Post #7 » by **texasholdem** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:15 am

heartbreaking

Guy986 · Post #8 » by **Guy986** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:29 am

jove9 wrote:injury-riddled

Thats two words!

Teckon · Post #9 » by **Teckon** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:39 am

Cursed.

College Boy · Post #10 » by **College Boy** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:40 am

tragic

jove9 · Post #11 » by **jove9** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:50 am

Guy986 wrote:
jove9 wrote:injury-riddled

Thats two words!

Nah. It's one hyphenated word.

moofs · Post #12 » by **moofs** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:16 am

Flight 447

BaYBaller · Post #13 » by **BaYBaller** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:00 am

Guy986 wrote:
BaYBaller wrote:43% is respectable for a SG given how he was practically the only offensive threat on that team. Even Bryant shot worse on bad teams so you can't discredit that. The things that bugs you about T-Mac is that he generally shot worse on progressively better teams, and that inexplicably his FT% went down each season he's been here which tells a lot about how hard (or lack thereof) he works in the offseason.

If I could use one word though it'd be heartbreaking because man when we got him, the dude was like a top 2 SG in the L. He's declined pretty drastically (and his career may even be over at this point).

43% is Tmac's BEST with the Rockets. BEST. His average as a Rocket is around 40%.

The only time Kobe has ever shot worst than 43% in his life is during his first two years in the league when he shot 41.7% and 42.8% from the field.

Relax dude I'm not saying T-Mac is better than Kobe I'm just saying the team you're surrounded by has an effect on your shooting %'s.

Besides people just complain about T-Mac way too much nowadays. I've said it before the revisionist history about T-Mac's time here is ridiculous. Hate on him for his work ethic, general lack of defense, or quitting on the team, but hating on his FG%? That's pretty silly considering he was the driving cog in this team up until this year.

Baller 24 · Post #14 » by **Baller 24** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:51 am

McGrady still impacts the team in a lot more ways then the stat sheet indicates. The MVP voters/media know it, he's an ineffective shooter, but those were two injury filled years, while last season he was shooting 42%, he also was averaging close to 44% during the winning streak (but went down when he got hurt). His shooting percentage has a direct relationship with his injuries. Even in '07, when he came back (without Yao) leading the team to a 20-11 record, while averaging 30/7/7/47% (in a month), the thing is, he plays very very well when healthy.

KiDdFrESh · Post #15 » by **KiDdFrESh** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:02 pm

I would say dissapointment!! :/

Whenever we traded for McGrady he had NO help outside of Yao who was still developing as player. I mean seriously... David Wesley, Weatherspoon, Ryan Bowen, Scott Padgett, Sura (i liked him though, but he got hurt). Jim Jackson (he was awesome in regular season), Luther Head, Juwan Howard. Those were the main pieces around him prior to the Battier trade. How we managed to win 50+ games a year with those rosters says ALOT about JVG imo. And then we we finally get a real team around him like we did this year, he's plagued by knee injuries. I haven't given up on him yet. When healthy he is a the perfect fit next to Artest and Yao. We also have solid role players and a solid bench as well. We never had that with JVG. It was just T-Mac.

Hopefully T-Mac comes back strong! He is still a great player when he is healthy ESPECIALLY in the playoffs.

Meatcookie · Post #16 » by **Meatcookie** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:21 pm

Disappointing

...but remember the 13 points in 35 seconds?

tisbee · Post #17 » by **tisbee** » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:27 pm

Frustrating

GetOnTheBandwagon · Post #18 » by **GetOnTheBandwagon** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:34 am

Theres 30+ teams in the league and the rockets have been one of the few teams that you can count on to be a playoff team every year since we've had tracy. We all want the rockets to win it all but every fan wants there team to win it all, and only one does. Atleast they're not the grizzlies or the sonic's... Tmac is used to being and expects to be a top 5 player. 13 in 35! come on he earned perminate emunity from critisism then that was kick ass.. Im thinking with all his damn money he has some smart people around him and when hes feeling pain and its showing on the court, that maybe when his doctor's tell him that he needs to shut it down if he wants to play like he used too that could be a feisable option. For us to trade him for nothing is idiotic... what if he comes back pissed off at all of us ungrateful bastard's and starts ballin. knock on wood. We could have a capable, been compared to kobe, pissed off, with modern medicine on his side, kicking ass, closing games SG/SF that we need.... or a 22 million dollar expiring contract on a playoff team. (Win/Win scenario) Hold on Morey sign Ron and trade Tmac or Ron at the deadline according to what seems right at the time, i got your back. If the comeback doesn't happen we'll get more for him at the tradeline anyways. What if?

PocketRockets · Post #19 » by **PocketRockets** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:37 pm

Yeah yeah.....13 in 35 secs.....great.......22 in a row.....history....

I would trade those in for a championship in the next 5 years any day. A championship is on a whole other level, man. If you asked kobe how the 81 pts compares to his 4 rings, it wouldn't beat any of those championships. A championship is the result of hardwork, teamwork, and a little bit of luck. Some HOFer's never get one and "best-ever" debates in any sport always references to them. It's a good feeling.....one that htown hasn't felt in a long time. (Doesn't look like we're getting one in bball or football anytime soon).

P.S. Pls slap yourself before you even think about the letter "W"......

McGrady2Head · Post #20 » by **McGrady2Head** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:17 am

If i had to describe T-Mac's tenure with the rockets, i would say "It was kinda like kissing your sister."

We got the guy who had the physical ability and skill set to be the next Michael Jordan. I still believe to this day McGrady could have been better than Wade, Kobe, and LeBron if he wanted too. The problem is, he didn't want to. Landing T-Mac in Houston was kinda like getting the chance to date a supermodel, then realize shes dumb as a brick and heartless. T-Mac is the biggest loser in sports history, and what makes it worse is if he wanted to he could have been one of the greatest winners ever.