Trade Blatche or McGee?

[Kanyewest]

The thing about McGee though - while he's a great run/jump athlete for his size, parts of the athletical package include fluididity, body control, and strength. McGee showed he's more gangly, gangly, and... gangly. Whether he can convert those 3 g's to the former through physical maturity and hard work is the question, imo. There's a reason he wasn't picked until late mid 1st round. NBA GMs don't normally get together and say in unison - Ooh, we hate athletic 7 footers with All-American genes.

It seems like NBA GMs didn't want to draft centers. Someone like Brook Lopez who averaged 13 ppg, 8 rpg, and 1.8 BPG slipped all the way to #10.

Another reason he slipped is because he was not from one of the big conferences (ACC, Big East, ect) and it was questionable how he would fare against greater competition. Frankly some scouts didn't do their homework.

Teams often draft for need instead of best player available. One team was the Bucks who thought they already had the center position down pat with Bogut and took Joe Alexander. Another example is the Portland Trailblazers who didn't take a big man because they already had Greg Oden.

The third was he was fairly young and wouldn't be able to contribute immediately. Well, he certainly had slightly better productivity offensively as someone like Roy Hibbert, who saw equal times on sub-par teams.

Still, I agree that he may be getting a bit overvalued because of all the things he could do instead of actual productivity. I bet some GMs would have to second guess their picks but I don't think McGee should be considered a prize of the draft yet; he still has a lot of work to do.

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Beasley
3. OJ Mayo
4. Kevin Love
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Danilo Gallinari
7. Eric Gordon
8. Joe Alexander
9. DJ Augustin
10. Brook Lopez
11. Jerry Bayless
12. Jason Thompson
13. Brandon Rush
14. Anthony Rnadolph
15. Robin Lopez
16. Marreese Speights
17. Roy Hibbert
18. Javale McGee
..
22. Courtney Lee
...
34. Mario Chalmers
...

[TheSecretWeapon]

if you are able to bend your knees and move..then you move from a high center of gravity to a low center of gravity when fighting for position...so obviously some people are lost with this concept.

It must be difficult to be so misunderstood. Lemme let you in on a little secret -- fishercob, doclinkin, Ruzious...? Morons. I've met a few of these guys in person and it was instantly clear that they sit up too much when they're reading. It places their eyes too far from the page or screen, and they're lucky to get even half the information. And then they slouch down when they're watching games, which means they're seeing the TV at an oblique angle rather than straight on. This distorts their perceptions because the blood flow to their brains goes more to one side than the other. Plus [whispers]some of them drink alcohol[/whispers]. That kills brain cells, which contributes to their inability to acheive the kind of higher level thinking and knowledge you display so regularly. I'm afraid that your efforts to educate them will likely be fruitless. They're incapable of thought at your level. Keep posting though -- the few of us who read properly, use proper posture when watching games, and don't drink alcohol appreciate your genius.

Psst -- I think doc might masturbate. And you know what THAT does to the brain. 'Nuff said.

[doclinkin]

Shoot! Somebody been spying on me!

[doclinkin]

Last edited by WizarDynasty on Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:12 pm, edited 7 times in total.

I love to check back in and watch WizDy edit on the fly as he quick-hits the google to edumacate hisself. Within 4 posts he's become the foremost expert on a topic. Some people argue in order to learn. No biggie.

[WizarDynasty]

wrong again...just adding in links to back up what i am saying. My concept has been the same since 2003 buddy. The video of Kareem makes my points clear.

[yungal07]

He's never going to be able to use his strength with a high center of gravity.

For what it's worth I agree with you compleeetely. High center of gravity is what doomed guys like Lew Alcindor. YOu wonder why you never heard his name after he graduated from UCLA it's because his high center of gravity was the real problem. He had diffuclty opening doors at safeway because he was so tall and if he bent down he would fall over pretty much.

Oh crap. You just made my day with that one.

[Ruzious]

Duh, after UCLA he legally changed his name. Some people just don't know anything.


Now, don't ever let me catch you disrespecting Roger Murdock like that again, understand? And while you're at it, tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

I think the name change was just after the Bucks traded him to the Lakers - showing that no player in any sport is too good to be traded. I idolized Lew Alcindor growing up - and was just crushed when he was traded - still waiting for Elmore Smith to hit his prime. I still have the second best sky hook in basketball. I'd be thrilled to the point of mast.... er um masticating... uh gum... yeah, that's it... if Kareem would dust it off and teach Javale his trademark shot. Kareem, do it for Pam.

Doc gets another posterized victim. Been there. No shame in getting it from the best.

[WizarDynasty]

so i assume the point of post Alcindor photo is to say Javale doesn't need to have the ability to bend his knees and create a lower center of gravity when posting up offensively or battling for rebounds. The video I provided in my previous post shows evidence to the contrary
1:15 second mark on the previous page. There should be no more questions about Alcindor's ability to drop his center of gravity while executing a post move dribble against a shorter opponent.

[pancakes3]

1 - iirc KAJ demanded a trade because milwaukee wasn't tolerant of his muslim faith.

2 - no, McGee doesn't need to bend his legs when on defense or posting up. centers on defense don't want to GET LOW. they want to be as TALL AS POSSIBLE to alter/challenge/block shots. on offense, they shouldn't be low because they should be reaching for the SKY in launching their HOOK shots.

3 - don't call me shirley.

4 - what DO they say about self love? should i be concerned?

[cdouglas]

Take a good look at McGee's face. He has a face like James Earl Jones, a mean face. When he fills out, he's going to be a big man. Remember Shaq said he looks like his son. The guy hardly ever smiles and that's the type of guy you want on your team.

[ZonkertheBrainless]

He looks like the bastard child of James Earl Jones and Alfred E. Neuman

[Ruzious]

1 - iirc KAJ demanded a trade because milwaukee wasn't tolerant of his muslim faith.

I don't know if it was that - or that he wanted to go to a bigger market than the tiny Milwaukee market, and LA was perfect... since he wanted to go into acting, surely. But yes, he initiated the trade - just as Earl Monroe did with the Bullets. People overlook it now, but The Pearl brutally bad-mouthed the city of Baltimore and demanded to be traded. Not a good trade for le Bullet - getting scrappy Mike Riordan and Dave Stallworth (or was it John Trezvant? I think it was Dave "the Rave"). The Bucks got a nice package from the Lakers - Dave Meyers, Junior Bridgeman, Brian Winters, and the very talented and disappointing 7 footer - Elmore Smith. I think the Lakers were pretty happy with that deal. Sorry for the hijack.

[TheSecretWeapon]

wrong again...just adding in links to back up what i am saying. My concept has been the same since 2003 buddy. The video of Kareem makes my points clear.

Dang, 7 tries to insert 1 link? I thought you were a super genius. First the Fat Boys break up, now this.