MN/Mem ... alternative

Dewey · Post #1 » by **Dewey** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:04 pm

Jefferson/#6 to Memphis ... A knee injury to a PF of Jeffersons style is risky
Conley/Milicic/#2 to MN ... Legit PG and true center fits a role.

Wolves draft Harden #2 (Harden over Evans to replace shooter/Miller traded for Bosh).
Wolves draft Daye using #18/28 to move up.

C = Milcic/Maddog
PF = Love/Smith/Cardinal
SF = Brewer/Daye/Gomes/Miller
SG = Harden/Foye
PG = Conley/Telfair

Starters: Conley/Harden/Brewer/Love/Milicic ...could go Love/Bosh
Reserves: Telfair/Foye/Miller/Gomes/Cardinal/Smith/Maddog ... Outside of Love, we move 2008 starters to reserve roles where they belong.

Trade assets in bold ... use to upgrade/add depth the F/C positions via trade ... Bosh, Smith, etc...

funkatron101 · Post #2 » by **funkatron101** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:31 pm

Post #3 » by **Basti** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:45 pm

not a good deal. even though Al is injured I assume his value is higher than that.

karch34 · Post #4 » by **karch34** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:54 pm

Horrible for the Wolves. Great deal for Memphis.

shrink · Post #5 » by **shrink** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:02 pm

I wouldn't trade 23/11 Jefferson for that alone. I am optimistic about the injury.

Krapinsky · Post #6 » by **Krapinsky** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:12 pm

How'd we go from Love/6 for Gay/2 to Jefferson/6 for Conley/2?

B Calrissian · Post #7 » by **B Calrissian** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:24 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:How'd we go from Love/6 for Gay/2 to Jefferson/6 for Conley/2?

Haven't you heard? Gay>>>>Love

4ho5ive · Post #8 » by **4ho5ive** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:03 pm

Milicic>>>>>>>>>Jefferson now?

Devilzsidewalk · Post #9 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:15 pm

trading Jefferson is way too dangerous right now, he could come back 100% and make us look like fools, he could fail his physical and return to us extremely pissed, the guy we trade him for could bust. Just not worth the risk

Dewey · Post #10 » by **Dewey** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:31 pm

4ho5ive wrote:Milicic>>>>>>>>>Jefferson now?

Pretty simple ...
Jefferson/Evans? for Conley/Milicic/Harden? ... not that bad.

Draft picks are very risky ... Jefferson has a known season ending knee injury to recover from, any future re-injury and he's done.

I'm not a fan of the trade, but I posted because we need to put Jefferson's injury into perspective, plus, the fact we have two PF's and no center or PG. Something's going to give - just a matter of when. This trade gets us a PG, an okay center, and the #2 pick.

Kahn could be building up Jefferson (and his season ending knee injury) over Love for a reasons ...

moss_is_1 · Post #11 » by **moss_is_1** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:19 pm

Dewey wrote:
4ho5ive wrote:Milicic>>>>>>>>>Jefferson now?

Pretty simple ...
Jefferson/Evans? for Conley/Milicic/Harden? ... not that bad.

Draft picks are very risky ... Jefferson has a known season ending knee injury to recover from, any future re-injury and he's done.

I'm not a fan of the trade, but I posted because we need to put Jefferson's injury into perspective, plus, the fact we have two PF's and no center or PG. Something's going to give - just a matter of when. This trade gets us a PG, an okay center, and the #2 pick.

Kahn could be building up Jefferson (and his season ending knee injury) over Love for a reasons ...

Wow, you're an idiot. Jeffeson is one blown knee away from being done now? That's the dumbest thing I've heard. If we trade Jefferson to Memphis it should be Jefferson #6 for Mayo,Gay, #2

D1SGRUNTL3D · Post #12 » by **D1SGRUNTL3D** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:36 pm

OP is a certified position, hes looked at Als injury up close. Of course he can make that assumption

AQuintus · Post #13 » by **AQuintus** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:38 pm

Dewey wrote:I'm not a fan of the trade, but I posted because we need to put Jefferson's injury into perspective

Yeah, let's put the injury into perspective. It's a simple ACL tear, an injury that hundreds of athletes get and fully recover from every year. It's not like this is an early 90s micro-fracture surgery.

On top of that, there have been multiple reports that Jefferson's recovery is way ahead of schedule and that he may very well be ready by the beginning of the season.

Kahn could be building up Jefferson (and his season ending knee injury) over Love for a reasons ...

Yes, and that reason is that Jefferson is the much better player.

wolves_fan_82au · Post #14 » by **wolves_fan_82au** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:39 pm

why are we throwing in the 6 :lol:

john2jer · Post #15 » by **john2jer** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:54 pm

Jefferson begins basketball activities in just over a month. He'll be ready by training camp. This proposal is ugly.

4ho5ive · Post #16 » by **4ho5ive** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:58 pm

wolves_fan_82au wrote:why are we throwing in the 6

Why are we throwing in Jefferson?

Dewey · Post #17 » by **Dewey** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:19 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
Dewey wrote:
4ho5ive wrote:Milicic>>>>>>>>>Jefferson now?

Pretty simple ...
Jefferson/Evans? for Conley/Milicic/Harden? ... not that bad.

Draft picks are very risky ... Jefferson has a known season ending knee injury to recover from, any future re-injury and he's done.

I'm not a fan of the trade, but I posted because we need to put Jefferson's injury into perspective, plus, the fact we have two PF's and no center or PG. Something's going to give - just a matter of when. This trade gets us a PG, an okay center, and the #2 pick.

Kahn could be building up Jefferson (and his season ending knee injury) over Love for a reasons ...

Wow, you're an idiot. Jeffeson is one blown knee away from being done now? That's the dumbest thing I've heard. If we trade Jefferson to Memphis it should be Jefferson #6 for Mayo,Gay, #2

oh wow ... that's like night and day, ballboy. Thanks for the tip.

Do you think they'll say, "his injury was really bad and his recovery is questionable"? ... it's the s ame pre-writen statement every time. I'm very willing to wait and see how the recovery goes.

Dewey · Post #18 » by **Dewey** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:46 pm

AQuintus wrote:
Dewey wrote:I'm not a fan of the trade, but I posted because we need to put Jefferson's injury into perspective

Yeah, let's put the injury into perspective. It's a simple ACL tear, an injury that hundreds of athletes get and fully recover from every year. It's not like this is an early 90s micro-fracture surgery.

On top of that, there have been multiple reports that Jefferson's recovery is way ahead of schedule and that he may very well be ready by the beginning of the season.

Kahn could be building up Jefferson (and his season ending knee injury) over Love for a reasons ...

Yes, and that reason is that Jefferson is the much better player.

From the man himself: "An elite athlete who has had a technically well performed early reconstruction of the anterior cruciate ligament followed by an adequate and successful rehabilitation program, should be able to return to their chosen sport in about nine months. This has been achieved by many Olympic and professional athletes".

I'm thinking December if things go well, regardless.

skorff26 · Post #19 » by **skorff26** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:58 pm

Take out the #6 and Darko and it's worth discussing

Also, maybe add a Cardinal for Buckner swap as well, and maybe let them keep Conley and we get their 2011 1st

That way at least we get a large TPE from Jefferson's salary, and we have Buckner's partially guaranteed contract to move and we can move that cap space and contract for more assets (Washington #5, Milwaukee #10, or a few other teams)

Post #20 » by **Worm Guts** » Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:09 pm

I think it would be a mistake to trade Jefferson or Love for anyone in this draft not named Blake Griffin.